Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Foxtrol · 09-01-2021 10:50PM

This gem from Parlor today. Can't work out whether it is a law enforcement group, media, or a troll that will just release it all.

https://twitter.com/BrianSpanner1/status/1348005014317522948?s=20

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 09-01-2021 10:51PM

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

What do people think of Apple and Google deciding that yesterday was the day to finally remove the Parler app from their storefront?

I mean, they were perfectly happy to host it there for quite some time so i'm curious as to what the catalyst for its sudden removal was.

Twitter was flooded with screenshots of contributers on parler advocating the murder of police because a terrorist got shot Wednesday..

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 10:51PM

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Shouldn't these companies be removing the Twiitter and Facebook apps as well because they were/are significant platforms for the same people?

Parler was offered a chance to put some kind of effective moderation policy in place, and was permanently taken down when it did not.

It may not always feel like it given how long it took for them to kick in in Trump's case, but both Twitter and Facebook spend an enormous amount of money moderating their content. Facebook's staff here is probably mostly dedicated to that, in fact.

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 10:51PM

Sand wrote: »

Incredible how all the media, politicians and corporations are suddenly all tweeting "LAW AND ORDER" when the mobs aren't BLM/Antifa. Suddenly its domestic terrorism, not peaceful protest. It highlights how fake and controlled the BLM/Antifa movement is. This scared them, BLM/Antifa never did.

Honestly, 2021 clearly beat 2020 when those photos of US politicians cowering came out. It was good to see the same cowards who voted down sending out a measly $2,000 to Americans harmed by COVID lockdowns were terrified when unarmed and non-violent Americans came to visit them to protest. A government should be afraid of its people.

Take off that silly hat with the horns, and take a swig of that Bud light.

09-01-2021 10:53PM

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Shouldn't these companies be removing the Twiitter and Facebook apps as well because they were/are significant platforms for the same people?

Did you read the article? The platform was opening discussing breaking into the Capitol and the likes in the days before. It was happy to allow inciting of the insurrection even during it. Twitter or Facebook do actively remove and suspend users for things like that, that was part of the reason users migrated to platforms like parler.

Sand · 09-01-2021 10:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Non violent? A police officer was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. Their motivation had nothing to do with stimulus checks, it was too overturn an election. You've basically rewritten an insurrection into something it wasn't.

Bludgeoned to death? Fake news much?

He went back to his office and collapsed at some later point. He was hardly torn apart by some bloodthirsty mob. The real question is why werent you as exercised by the deaths of police officers at the hands of BLM motivated killers?

I know - the media told you it was peaceful protest.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 09-01-2021 10:56PM

So the Arizona local republican party is in the process of censuring Cindy McCain for supporting Biden.

09-01-2021 10:58PM

Sand wrote: »

Bludgeoned to death? Fake news much?

He went back to his office and collapsed at some later point. He was hardly torn apart by some bloodthirsty mob. The real question is why werent you as exercised by the deaths of police officers at the hands of BLM motivated killers?

I know - the media told you it was peaceful protest.

Bludgeoned in the head by a Maga Insurrectionist and died as a result of the injury. Does that sound much better?

They were primarily peaceful protests for BLM. It's a fact. I favour prosecutions of anyone who kills Police officers. Always been my position.

Both Republicans, the media and intelligence agencies view the events of Wednesday as terrorism. It wasn't a protest. Why exactly did the guy invading the chamber have cable ties for a protest?

oldtimeyfella · 09-01-2021 10:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Did you read the article? The platform was opening discussing breaking into the Capitol and the likes in the days before. It was happy to allow inciting of the insurrection even during it. Twitter or Facebook do actively remove and suspend users for things like that, that was part of the reason users migrated to platforms like parler.

The platform was openly discussing it? I sincerely doubt that.

The users may have been but do we now ban platforms for the actions of their users?

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 10:59PM

Sand wrote: »

Bludgeoned to death? Fake news much?

He died of a head injury sustained from a bludgeoning injury. You cannot wellactually that in Good Faith.

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 11:02PM

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

The platform was openly discussing it? I sincerely doubt that.

The users may have been but do we now ban platforms for the actions of their users?

The entire founding purpose of Parler is to cater to discussions Twitter and Facebook content safety policies would not accommodate. Google/Apple required functional safety policies, Parler didn't want to do that, ipso facto.

Google/Apple regularly take stuff off their store for content and legality reasons.

Sand · 09-01-2021 11:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Bludgeoned in the head by a Maga Insurrectionist and died as a result of the injury. Does that sound much better?

How would you describe the death of Ashli Babbet?

I can already guess, but I want you to consider how they differ and who told you to believe that. You might also consider why you so uncritically believe what you're told by perceived authority but that might be a step too far.

Muahahaha · 09-01-2021 11:11PM

The Mooch gave me a laugh

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1347886612227772417

A 'Scaramucci' refers to 11 days in office, tweeted today Jan 9th

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 11:11PM

Sand wrote: »

How would you describe the death of Ashli Babbet?

I can already guess, but I want you to consider how they differ and who told you to believe that. You might also consider why you so uncritically believe what you're told by perceived authority but that might be a step too far.

Ashli Babbitt's death is on video. Who told anyone what about it is irrelevant.

During an incursion on protected Federal space, Babbitt led an attempt to breach the chamber where the VP her comrades wanted to execute was. She ignored back-off warnings from his Secret Service detail, and was shot.

Ashli Babbitt was a former Capitol security operator who understood exactly what she was doing, and was carrying a firearm. There's no room to whitewash her.

BorneTobyWilde · 09-01-2021 11:12PM

One thing is very clear, Google Twitter and Facebook have CRAZY amount of control over what we see, hear and think. And over us as a whole.

09-01-2021 11:12PM

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

The platform was openly discussing it? I sincerely doubt that.

The users may have been but do we now ban platforms for the actions of their users?

It was pretty clear that I meant on the platform. It's pretty clear that parler violates multiple rules on the play store by the way. In this case, the platform was happy to allow users to encourage an insurrection.

https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/10286120?hl=en

On top of that, I wouldn't rule it out being taken offline entirely. Hosting platforms also have rules of conduct for those that use their platform.

Christy42 · 09-01-2021 11:12PM

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

The platform was openly discussing it? I sincerely doubt that.

The users may have been but do we now ban platforms for the actions of their users?

If the platform wants to continue to host conversations about attacking and killing police and elected officials it will suffer a reaction to it yes. Does this seem strange to you?

Timberrrrrrrr · 09-01-2021 11:14PM

Sand wrote: »

How would you describe the death of Ashli Babbet?

I can already guess, but I want you to consider how they differ and who told you to believe that. You might also consider why you so uncritically believe what you're told by perceived authority but that might be a step too far.

Ashley Babbitt,

She illegally entered the capitol building.

She tried to climb through a broken window, She was told to get back even while a gun was pointed at her.

She continues to try climb through the window and was shot, she died from her own stupidity.

On the other side of that door was the chamber where most of the government were attempting to certify an election. No one knew if she was armed or not, she was perceived to be a threat and was treated as such.

Muahahaha · 09-01-2021 11:16PM

Twitter are saying that they have seen online chatter of another insurrection on the Capital Buildings around the 19th or 20th of Jan. Im wondering if Putin will pass up the opportunity to put his botfarms into action on sites like Parler, Discord, Signal and foment another uprising. If he can have plausible deniability from doing so it wouldnt surprise me if he is pulling strings in the background.

09-01-2021 11:18PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

This gem from Parlor today. Can't work out whether it is a law enforcement group, media, or a troll that will just release it all.

https://twitter.com/BrianSpanner1/status/1348005014317522948?s=20

Good response :-)

https://twitter.com/StephenCVGraham/status/1348005271310884872?s=20

listermint · 09-01-2021 11:18PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

One thing is very clear, Google Twitter and Facebook have CRAZY amount of control over what we see, hear and think. And over us as a whole.

You could just ... I don't know delete them.
And live in the real world and stuff.

lazygal · 09-01-2021 11:23PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

One thing is very clear, Google Twitter and Facebook have CRAZY amount of control over what we see, hear and think. And over us as a whole.

No one has to use them. It's not like you're legally obliged to have an account with any of them.

BorneTobyWilde · 09-01-2021 11:23PM

listermint wrote: »

You could just ... I don't know delete them.
And live in the real world and stuff.

Impossible, today that is the real world.

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 11:24PM

https://twitter.com/SheWho_Resists/status/1348013553245151232

The 3 Percenters are the group who made plans to kidnap and execute the Governor of Michigan.

listermint · 09-01-2021 11:24PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Impossible, today that is the real world.

Impossible to remove Facebook and Twitter...?

And as for Google it's a search engine. Use it for shopping and. Holidays and stuff.

Personal responsibility seems like a foreign concept to right leaning people.

Just mad...

09-01-2021 11:25PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Impossible, today that is the real world.

Only if you don't actually have a life. You can survive without Facebook etc

09-01-2021 11:26PM

Sand wrote: »

How would you describe the death of Ashli Babbet?

I can already guess, but I want you to consider how they differ and who told you to believe that. You might also consider why you so uncritically believe what you're told by perceived authority but that might be a step too far.

I think you overestimate how clever your argument is. Babbet was attempt to breach the chamber and that's about all I know. So it really depends on the details and I frankly can't judge until the investigation is completed. What we do know is the insurrection is largely being viewed as an act of terrorism and the parties involved are facing years of jail time.

Why did you feel the need to downplay the bludgeoning of a police officer that resulted in his death? Multiple bombs were found, targeting both Republicans and Dems.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/08/politics/us-capitol-riots-arrest-pelosi-desk/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

Edit : Oh NVM, she was armed and trying to breach a chamber containing multiple politicians... More shocking she got that close.

Timberrrrrrrr · 09-01-2021 11:26PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

One thing is very clear, Google Twitter and Facebook have CRAZY amount of control over what we see, hear and think. And over us as a whole.

If they have control over what you see then thats because you choose to see what they offer. Thats like whinging because RTE, Sky, BBC, or what ever your choice of media is has control over you when all you need to do is change channel

Overheal · 09-01-2021 11:26PM

Sand wrote: »

Incredible how all the media, politicians and corporations are suddenly all tweeting "LAW AND ORDER" when the mobs aren't BLM/Antifa. Suddenly its domestic terrorism, not peaceful protest. It highlights how fake and controlled the BLM/Antifa movement is. This scared them, BLM/Antifa never did.

Honestly, 2021 clearly beat 2020 when those photos of US politicians cowering came out. It was good to see the same cowards who voted down sending out a measly $2,000 to Americans harmed by COVID lockdowns were terrified when unarmed and non-violent Americans came to visit them to protest. A government should be afraid of its people.

I knew finally, someone would be along to make this idiotic stance.

"Woah, looting Reeboks & Nikes wasn't domestic terrorism but trying to kidnap the joint session of the United States Congress is suddenly a problem? Jesus Christ this is what is wrong with you liberals."

namloc1980 · 09-01-2021 11:30PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Impossible, today that is the real world.

Don't have Facebook. So not impossible.

Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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