Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 08:03PM

Gradius wrote: »

So its no big deal if twitter just ban Biden too, right?

He has plenty of other platforms after all.

Unless you want to change your argument to "he broke the rules", in which case why haven't umpteen other influential users of twitter been banned too?

How backed up into the corner do you need to be before you accept the reality that this is selective and therefore biased?

Maybe, if you turn your switch to on, you will begin to fathom the reason why a president cannot be inciting seditious acts, knowing full well his power over stoked, ignorant people he claims to love.

You would probably let your daughter be sucked up by a cult on account of freedom, bravo. It's your call Gradius Maximus.

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 08:05PM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Sorry it wasn't the guy in Pelosis office with his feet on the table it was another one called Baked alaska that was positive

the guy who was in her office has already been arrested.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 08:07PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

The only bias from Twitter was not banning him sooner. He was inviting violence, as he has been for some time. Twitter are partially responsible by not sticking to their own rules and banning him ages ago. And that goes for anyone else on their platform they allow to violate the rules.

And the malaysian politician that stated Muslims have a right to kill french people, was he inciting violence?

Rules for thee are not for me. That's what happens when a private company accepts no responsibility, despite having the influence to change opinions through manipulation on country-level scales.

Law of unintended consequences will happen over these companies being allowed do whatever suits. And the cheerleaders probably won't be so cheery about it.

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 08:08PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Sure they already disavowed the woman that died trying a suicide run through the window, despite years of her pushing Q conspiracies. Imagine giving your life for a cult and within hours they say you were the enemy.

Rudy believes that MAGA supporters are too weak/fat/dumb to be able to climb a wall. To be fair, this guy probably shouldn't have attempted it

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1347718251825016838?s=20

https://twitter.com/90sWWE/status/1347621993345114114

Overheal · 09-01-2021 08:08PM

Kaybaykwah wrote: »

Maybe, if you turn your switch to on, you will begin to fathom the reason why a president cannot be inciting seditious acts, knowing full well his power over stoked, ignorant people he claims to love.

You would probably let your daughter be sucked up by a cult on account of freedom, bravo. It's your call Gradius Maximus.

So when Chancellor Hitler signed the Reichstag fire decree it wasn’t a coup I guess? Is that what you are saying?

09-01-2021 08:08PM

Gradius wrote: »

So its no big deal if twitter just ban Biden too, right?

He has plenty of other platforms after all.

Unless you want to change your argument to "he broke the rules", in which case why haven't umpteen other influential users of twitter been banned too?

How backed up into the corner do you need to be before you accept the reality that this is selective and therefore biased?

If Biden was inciting violence I'm sure Twitter would ban him and most sane people would be in support of that.

Trump should have in my mind been banned a long time ago. For me, his LIBERATE Michigan!!! tweets was that point.

Gunmen subsequently gathered in the halls of the Michigan State Capitol and a cohesive plan found to kidnap the state Governor.

That for me was the point he had gone to far.

pjohnson · 09-01-2021 08:09PM

Gradius wrote: »

And the malaysian politician that stated Muslims have a right to kill french people, was he inciting violence?

Rules for thee are not for me. That's what happens when a private company accepts no responsibility, despite having the influence to change opinions through manipulation on country-level scales.

Law of unintended consequences will happen over these companies being allowed do whatever suits. And the cheerleaders probably won't be so cheery about it.

Whats this in English?

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 08:09PM

Gradius wrote: »

So its no big deal if twitter just ban Biden too, right?

He has plenty of other platforms after all.

Unless you want to change your argument to "he broke the rules", in which case why haven't umpteen other influential users of twitter been banned too?

How backed up into the corner do you need to be before you accept the reality that this is selective and therefore biased?

If biden ever posts anything like the stuff Trump has posted I would be annoyed if they didnt ban him.

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 08:09PM

Gradius wrote: »

And the malaysian politician that stated Muslims have a right to kill french people, was he inciting violence?

Rules for thee are not for me. That's what happens when a private company accepts no responsibility, despite having the influence to change opinions through manipulation on country-level scales.

Law of unintended consequences will happen over these companies being allowed do whatever suits. And the cheerleaders probably won't be so cheery about it.

So, what is your solution, totally unrestrained expression?

runawaybishop · 09-01-2021 08:10PM

Gradius wrote: »

And the malaysian politician that stated Muslims have a right to kill french people, was he inciting violence?

Rules for thee are not for me. That's what happens when a private company accepts no responsibility, despite having the influence to change opinions through manipulation on country-level scales.

Law of unintended consequences will happen over these companies being allowed do whatever suits. And the cheerleaders probably won't be so cheery about it.

Rules should be applied equally. I have stated that already, pretty clearly. Trump's multiple violations of the rules should have resulted in his ban far earlier.

The Malaysian guy should also have the rules applied to him.

This 'both sides' whataboutery is just nonsense.

boardise · 09-01-2021 08:10PM

francois wrote: »

The far right have a hard on for nordic symbols for some reason

They seem to be a hubristic horde of horny haters.

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 08:11PM

Cruz Stocky Steak wrote: »

If Biden was inciting violence I'm sure Twitter would ban him and most sane people would be in support of that.

Trump should have in my mind been banned a long time ago. For me, his LIBERATE Michigan!!! tweets was that point.

Gunmen subsequently gathered in the halls of the Michigan State Capitol and a cohesive plan found to kidnap the state. Governor.

That for me was the point he had gone to far.

You are too kind. There ain't no time machine that can bring it back to legal abortion time.

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 08:11PM

Gradius wrote: »

The argument of the other two users doesn't even mention the "why's", just simply that there's plenty of choice and it's no big deal if he can't use twitter.

everybody knows the "whys" of trumps banning. is there anything there worth discussing?

Tell me how · 09-01-2021 08:11PM

Gradius wrote: »

So its no big deal if twitter just ban Biden too, right?

He has plenty of other platforms after all, including a press office etc.

Unless you want to change your argument to "he broke the rules", in which case why haven't umpteen other influential users of twitter been banned too?

Like the other one, how backed up into the corner do you need to be before you accept the reality that this is selective and therefore biased?

What reality is that? Show us the comparable messages from people you think should be banned.

The reality is, Trump has deliberately undermined the electoral system, the judicial system and the legislative system in his tweets and when did this in his words on Wednesday, within 30 minutes the people who had listened to him stormed the capitol, placed a gallows outside it, forced the stoppage of the democratic process which was underway, sought out the Vice President while chanting 'Hang Pence' and completed various other acts which left 5 people dead.

That is what happened. We all watched it live in HD so when you start with your 'the MSM' whimpers, don't bring them here.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 08:11PM

Kaybaykwah wrote: »

Maybe, if you turn your switch to on, you will begin to fathom the reason why a president cannot be inciting seditious acts, knowing full well his power over stoked, ignorant people he claims to love.

You would probably let your daughter be sucked up by a cult on account of freedom, bravo. It's your call Gradius Maximus.

Pray tell, what is this magical consistent rule that bans Trump for inviting violence, yet allows the Chinese celebrate genocide?

Bans Trump for inviting violence, yet allows a user to continue with celebrating and encouraging the beheading of french people?

Tell me about this sometimes-rule, Dickus Minimus? :P

Christy42 · 09-01-2021 08:12PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Rules should be applied equally. I have stated that already, pretty clearly. Trump's multiple violations of the rules should have resulted in his ban far earlier.

The Malaysian guy should also have the rules applied to him.

This 'both sides' whataboutery is just nonsense.

While I think it should have gotten him banned the Malaysian guy did have his post removed. Trump himself was hardly banned for a first offense. The deletion of the tweet by twitter seems to get lost in a few posts...

Foxtrol · 09-01-2021 08:12PM

Gradius wrote: »

And the malaysian politician that stated Muslims have a right to kill french people, was he inciting violence?

Rules for thee are not for me. That's what happens when a private company accepts no responsibility, despite having the influence to change opinions through manipulation on country-level scales.

Law of unintended consequences will happen over these companies being allowed do whatever suits. And the cheerleaders probably won't be so cheery about it.

Can you point to your posts complaining when Trump was breaking rules and wasn't being banned like other users? Was it fine when he was receiving preferential treatment?

Christy42 · 09-01-2021 08:13PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Baked Allaska of Charlottesville fame

This period in history is going to look terrible. Like I don't know how much more obvious they could have made the nazi connection and yet we still have people debating it.

yagan · 09-01-2021 08:14PM

Cruz Stocky Steak wrote: »

Gunmen subsequently gathered in the halls of the Michigan State Capitol and a cohesive plan found to kidnap the state. Governor.

That for me was the point he had gone to far.

Definitely. He was urging rebellion against the democratically elected state government.

It's feels inevitable that he'll go for broke in provoking an all out assault on Washington now.

pjohnson · 09-01-2021 08:16PM

Christy42 wrote: »

This period in history is going to look terrible. Like I don't know how much more obvious they could have made the nazi connection and yet we still have people debating it.

Thats why I imagine Republicans will be glad for Trump and his cronies relegated to under their bridges. He has done probably decades of harm to the Republican party.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 08:17PM

Tell me how wrote: »

What reality is that? Show us the comparable messages from people you think should be banned.

The reality is, Trump has deliberately undermined the electoral system, the judicial system and the legislative system in his tweets and when did this in his words on Wednesday, within 30 minutes the people who had listened to him stormed the capitol, placed a gallows outside it, forced the stoppage of the democratic process which was underway, sought out the Vice President while chanting 'Hang Pence' and completed various other acts which left 5 people dead.

That is what happened. We all watched it live in HD so when you start with your 'the MSM' whimpers, don't bring them here.

Yes, Trump did that.

And you don't give a fook about anything else, to the extent that you don't even realize it exists. If you cared you'd know. But it's not about principle, it's not about right or wrong, it's not about private companies controlling public opinion, it's not about balance, no, it's about what suits, and this biased censorship suits some ignorami down the ground.

Live by the sword and all that.

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 08:17PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Baked Allaska of Charlottesville fame

what a lineup of absolute scum.

LessOutragePlz · 09-01-2021 08:19PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what a lineup of absolute scum.

What do you mean scum?

Those are some great American patriots!

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 08:19PM

Gradius wrote: »

Pray tell, what is this magical consistent rule that bans Trump for inviting violence, yet allows the Chinese celebrate genocide?

Bans Trump for inviting violence, yet allows a user to continue with celebrating and encouraging the beheading of french people?

Tell me about this sometimes-rule, Dickus Minimus? :P

You are the kind of bleeding heart that your right wingers abhorr. They will kick you when you're down and won't think twice.

On the other hand, Chump isn't a goner yet, he's still very much at the center of things and can be for a long time, if he isn't somehow circumvented, for the lack of a better word. His actions and words were swept under the rug by his party's cognoscenti, and they are now having to deal with the "Hypocrisy" you seem to want to dismiss.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 08:19PM

Kaybaykwah wrote: »

So, what is your solution, totally unrestrained expression?

Hey, seeing as it suits for now....no need to examine where it's heading, or solutions, or inspection whatsoever!

In fact, cheer it on! Yaaayy

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 09-01-2021 08:22PM

AOC "owning" Ted Cruz, it's delicious

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1347983166515113987?s=19

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1347986081820631046?s=19

jam_mac_jam · 09-01-2021 08:24PM

Wow you have to genocidal to be a Neo Nazi. That's very strange logic.

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 08:25PM

Gradius wrote: »

Yes, Trump did that.

And you don't give a fook about anything else, to the extent that you don't even realize it exists. If you cared you'd know. But it's not about principle, it's not about right or wrong, it's not about private companies controlling public opinion, it's not about balance, no, it's about what suits, and this biased censorship suits some ignorami down the ground.

Live by the sword and all that.

You want to ignore all the other back room stuff on the web, though.

Twitter is, for good or ill, the front door.

Everybody knows and is confronted to pitiful, pitiable, pithy comments and instigations on the web.

Not everybody is the pres-o-dent.

Tell me how · 09-01-2021 08:27PM

Gradius wrote: »

Yes, Trump did that.

And you don't give a fook about anything else, to the extent that you don't even realize it exists. If you cared you'd know. But it's not about principle, it's not about right or wrong, it's not about private companies controlling public opinion, it's not about balance, no, it's about what suits, and this biased censorship suits some ignorami down the ground.

Live by the sword and all that.

Spare me if I think you don't give a toss about any of that. You are aggrieved now and full of righteous indignation because the demagogue masquerading as a leader has been found out in the most clinical manner.

Trump gained 200,000 Twitter followers between Wednesday and Friday. It cannot be ignored the influence that his words on the platform were having.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 08:33PM

Christy42 wrote: »

This period in history is going to look terrible. Like I don't know how much more obvious they could have made the nazi connection and yet we still have people debating it.

Mad stuff all right.

Human society is like a law of physics in someway, like friction.

Force is met by equal opposing force. Pendulous.

Men are women now? Meet flat-earthers. Both denial of science.

No borders? Meet resurgent ethno-states. Both denial of common sense.

Offended by everything? Meet anger at everything.

And so on. The more people believe in whacky things, the more people push back until it comes to a head. It doesn't even matter who started it, the problem is that it was propagated by simple agitation, willingly profiteered upon by tech leeches.

I fail to see how anyone could believe the USA is going to "calm down", rather than reach a conclusion. Ditto for everywhere.

If you make a fuss, expect a fuss. History isn't going to be kind to the last decade, or the next. It'll be easy to point fingers anyway

Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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