Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Overheal · 08-01-2021 10:20PM

Tony EH wrote: »

I can't see this going ahead. Trump is finished now and the events of the other night sealed the deal. Only the most stupid of his fan base would look at that nonsense on Wednesday and think he's still worth listening to. I'd like to think that most Republicans now believe that they really fucked up and withdraw support. But it's too little too late, as has been said numerous times.

But it has been a real lesson. The Republicans used Trump as a useful idiot to gain power. A man who's only interest was the adulation he received from a crowd...any crowd. He didn't care. Which led directly to to idiot Q-Anon types and dangerous elements like Neo Nazis getting a voice, that should be denied to them completely.

Trump AND the Republicans were reckless in the extreme and not only has it lost them the Presidency (to a Democratic candidate that would have lost any other year), they've lost everything else as well. They gambled for power only and not the good of the country and fully deserve to be in the position that they find themselves now. A position they're trying to crawl back from to save as much face as they can.

Think again.

https://twitter.com/intelcrab/status/1347639637725077505?s=21

extra gravy · 08-01-2021 10:20PM

Cody montana wrote: »

"ARTICLE I: INCITEMENT OF INSURRECTION."

"Donald John Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by willfully inciting violence against the Government of the United States."

Kaybaykwah · 08-01-2021 10:23PM

Overheal wrote: »

Think again.

https://twitter.com/intelcrab/status/1347639637725077505?s=21

A new movement under way; Babbitt's Life Matters.

Donald Trump · 08-01-2021 10:24PM

Sorry mod for posting that. I shouldn't have done it. I was annoyed.

namloc1980 · 08-01-2021 10:26PM

Cody montana wrote: »

"ARTICLE I: INCITEMENT OF INSURRECTION."

There should also be an article in relation to the call with the Georgia Secretary of State where he pressured him to overturn the election and find him votes.

Ted_YNWA · 08-01-2021 10:26PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Sorry mod for posting that. I shouldn't have done it. I was annoyed.

You can be impeached here anytime Donnie

Keep it civil.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 08-01-2021 10:33PM

How many votes in the Senate does it take to convict him?

jill_valentine · 08-01-2021 10:33PM

They're still claiming Babbitt was unarmed?

ohnonotgmail · 08-01-2021 10:34PM

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

How many votes in the Senate does it take to convict him?

2/3rds

08-01-2021 10:37PM

Interestingly over the last 2 days my YouTube account has been recommended several videos from right-wing lunatics that I've never come across before. Looks like "Big Tech" still haven't quiet figured out their algorithms yet. :rolleyes:

This **** isn't over yet. And even metrics like viewcount won't be reliable indicators of how many clowns are being converted, new eyes are important.

08-01-2021 10:39PM

As to the FBI raiding the GOP offices, pretty much any politician who has a SuperPAC associated with them could easily be put behind bars. For 2008 Colbert did a magnificent job showing the absurdities of showing the nonsense of not being allowed to "co-ordinate" etc. At the end of the day almost everything in political fundraising can be classed as illegal, it's just a matter of how far the authorities at the time feel like moving the needle.

Tony EH · 08-01-2021 10:40PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

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$1.3 BILLION! You just love to see it.

And I hope they win.

Those types of baseless conspiracy claims directly designed to appeal to the simple minded for political purposes need to be cut down hard.

BorneTobyWilde · 08-01-2021 10:41PM

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9Mi4y_1610070505

We all know the cops love trump too, but it's crazy how they allowed them to storm the building.

tigger123 · 08-01-2021 10:41PM

Is there any chance this impeachment will be successful?

Carfacemandog · 08-01-2021 10:42PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

<<Mod Snip>>

As if a few thousand protestors storming the capital on a single day (and remember most claim to have been peaceful protestors) was going to overthrow the US government. If you want to think that "overthrow the government" means to storm the Capitol and that that is all it entails then you are entitled to that delusion

At least you now acknowledge that it was well known thousands would descend on the Capitol building with the intent of overthrowing the government.

And yet despite the police state that America is, it was decided to put entirely inadequate forces in place to protect against this, and when they went looking for assistance after things kicked off, it was point blank denied to them to the point they had to break protocol and use unofficial channels of communication to get it in.

Because the hardcore sycophant Trump has put in as secretary of defense would not allow the help to come, which is very very strange.

Akrasia · 08-01-2021 10:42PM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ImpeachmentHour/status/1347564324584353794?s=19

Very fine people.

There is a theoretically plausible possibility that our universe is a videogame simulation, and each one of us is just a self aware avatar NPC who exist purely to add to the world building aesthetic, inserted by the game designers to make the the players experience a more immersive world

This one picture, of that gob****e, wrapped in an animal skin, inside the US capitol building as though he's sitting on a throne, in the middle of an insurrection directed by an orange skinned fox haired reality tv host comic book
villain who somehow made it to be the president of the USA...
And the fact that this douchebag is the son of a state supreme court judge...

That one picture does more to support that theoretical possibility than all the physics papers in the world put together.

08-01-2021 10:43PM

Well that's 2 of the mob medical emergencies accounted for

https://www.revolt.tv/news/2021/1/8/22221070/woman-trump-supporter-trampled-death-us-capitol

namloc1980 · 08-01-2021 10:46PM

tigger123 wrote: »

Is there any chance this impeachment will be successful?

He'll almost certainly be impeached but whether he'll be convicted by the Senate is another question.

osarusan · 08-01-2021 10:47PM

Do the Democrats have the numbers for an impeachment/conviction? I know they won the recent Georgia elections, but have those politicians actually taken their positions yet?

Or do they expect/hope some Republicans will join them?

Or do they mostly aim to force Republicans to vote publicly against impeachment/conviction?

Billy Mays · 08-01-2021 10:47PM

https://twitter.com/WSAZChadHedrick/status/1347629406043443203?s=20

Good

Akrasia · 08-01-2021 10:48PM

Tony EH wrote: »

I'm not saying there was a Hillsborough type situation going on. But there was an extremely tense one building up and rather than some sort of large "collusion" of groups, I think the forces involved just opted to defuse the situation instead of letting it get further out of control. They probably figured, correctly, that these numpties hadn't thought things through and it was a better option let them on through than have bullets flying.

In that respect, "law and order" was better served doing that, than turning things into a massacre. As things stand, there are 5 people dead. If they had been more heavy handed, god knows what the death toll would have been and that wouldn't have looked better, I assure you.

BS, A hillsborough situation is a mob of people trying to escape from a dangerous situation. This was a siege where the mob was trying to force their way in. No self respecting security force would open the gates to an armed violent mob trying to force their way in through a locked gate because there were too many of them trying to get in. It's bizarro world logic, and if you even for half a second think those doors would have opened if it was a BLM protest trying to get in, you're deluded.

08-01-2021 10:48PM

glasso wrote: »

Well that's 2 of the mob medical emergencies accounted for

https://www.revolt.tv/news/2021/1/8/22221070/woman-trump-supporter-trampled-death-us-capitol

Two early candidates for the Darwin awards going by that.

Faugheen · 08-01-2021 10:49PM

osarusan wrote: »

Do the Democrats have the numbers for an impeachment? I know they won the recent Georgia elections, but have those politicians actually taken their positions yet?

Or do they expect/hope some Republicans will join them?

Or do they mostly aim to force Republicans to vote publicly against impeachment?

It's a win-win for the Democrats really. He's either removed or the Republicans vote to save him again, highlighting that nothing has changed.

namloc1980 · 08-01-2021 10:49PM

osarusan wrote: »

Do the Democrats have the numbers for an impeachment? I know they won the recent Georgia elections, but have those politicians actually taken their positions yet?

Or do they expect/hope some Republicans will join them?

Or do they mostly aim to force Republicans to vote publicly against impeachment?

Dems have majority in the House where the Impeachment will be voted upon. The trial would then be in the Senate.

osarusan · 08-01-2021 10:55PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Dems have majority in the House where the Impeachment will be voted upon. The trial would then be in the Senate.

And despite the Georgia result, Republicans still have control of the senate for the moment?

namloc1980 · 08-01-2021 10:59PM

osarusan wrote: »

And despite the Georgia result, Republicans still have control of the senate for the moment?

Need a two-thirds in the Senate to convict so regardless the Democrats would need 17 or so Republicans to cross the aisle and vote to convict Trump and remove him from office. Can't see it happening. I think if the impeachment goes through the Republicans will just stall on holding the trial until after the 20th so they won't have to do anything.

08-01-2021 11:00PM

osarusan wrote: »

Do the Democrats have the numbers for an impeachment/conviction? I know they won the recent Georgia elections, but have those politicians actually taken their positions yet?

Or do they expect/hope some Republicans will join them?

Or do they mostly aim to force Republicans to vote publicly against impeachment/conviction?

Would the senate where the actual trial would be if I remember correctly.
While the GOP might get some bad press by not voting for the impeachmen/conviction, it would actually do more harm to them with the average republican voter if they voted for it.
Being impeached and convicted means that any idea of trump running again in four years is done with.

Akrasia · 08-01-2021 11:01PM

jill_valentine wrote: »

They're still claiming Babbitt was unarmed?

hold on... wait a minute?? are you seriously suggesting fascists would lie???

I can't believe it.

They wouldn't know the meaning of the word propaganda

08-01-2021 11:04PM

Faugheen wrote: »

It's a win-win for the Democrats really. He's either removed or the Republicans vote to save him again, highlighting that nothing has changed.

Don't think so, only the actual impeachment and conviction would be a win.

Sure the GOP will get some bad press if they voted against it but they would suffer more damage with their supporters if they do vote for impeachment and conviction.

Faugheen · 08-01-2021 11:06PM

Lisa Murkowski calls on Trump to resign.

That's 1 Republican, 17 more to go...

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