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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #1832
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,997 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    hmmm wrote: »
    I didn't see that, but I'm surprised to hear that was discussed. We know from several papers (e.g. bus, call centre) that 2m or 20m doesn't make much difference (unless you are directly in droplet range), and it all depends on air-flows in indoor locations as to how safe you are.

    To be fair their main basis for this view was the as yet unexplained spread of the variant in an already at Tier 4 Kent, so watching with interest, and unease.


  • #1833
    hotmail.com
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    Teachers refusing to work it seems.

    Will their wages be docked?


  • #1834
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Teachers refusing to work it seems.

    Will their wages be docked?

    No, and you know that.

    They'll provide online teaching as they did in March .


  • #1835
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Teachers refusing to work it seems.

    Will their wages be docked?

    They're not - they just think it's not the right time to return to work on the school premises because it's not safe to do so right now - Emma O'Kelly said so.


  • #1836
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    ImDave wrote: »
    Am I missing something on the calculations here or are the hospitalisation and ICU admission percentages on the HPSC 14 day reports completely wrong?

    I.e. 25-34 age group shows hospital admissions of 79, but a percentage of 10.91%. I’d take it as being 1.22%?

    I believe its

    Cases in age group hospitalised as a % of total cases hospitalised

    Rather than

    Cases in age group hospitalised as a % of total cases in age group


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  • #1837
    hotmail.com
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    Norma should have sticked to her guns and reopened the schools for children with special needs.

    This will cause enormous stress for so many families now.


  • #1838
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Could be but both scientists ( they normally have one against the other , lol ) on Prime Time last night were in agreement that the current 2 m SD may not be sufficient to halt the spread of the variant !
    Sorry, really I don't know whether I seek it out but I don't seem to be posting any good news lately :/

    No change there really :/


  • #1839
    rob316
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Norma should have sticked to her guns and reopened the schools for children with special needs.

    This will cause enormous stress for so many families now.

    I'm absolutely gutted and worn out. The most vulnerable children forgotten about AGAIN


  • #1840
    hotmail.com
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    Who over ruled Norma?

    It just shows how powerless line ministers are.


  • #1841
    [Deleted User]
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    Norma Foley: "the public health advice that was made available...the public health advice that was made available...the public health that was made available..."

    Deflect, deflect, deflect. Never ever own the error of judgment, just blame others and save her own skin.


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  • #1842
    9db3xj7z41fs5u
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭9db3xj7z41fs5u


    majcos wrote: »
    I’ll send him a message via my microchip.

    Do the conspiracy people genuinely believe this, or are they just winding people up? I mean how?

    I have a degree in biomedical sciences. Just for the purpose of debate, could somebody go through, in biological terms, with reference to the relevant academic references, the proposed biological mechanism?


  • #1843
    Happydays2020
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Who over ruled Norma?

    It just shows how powerless line ministers are.

    Cabinet make collective decisions.


  • #1844
    hotmail.com
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    Who runs the country - the unions or the government?


  • #1845
    ImDave
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I believe its

    Cases in age group hospitalised as a % of total cases hospitalised

    Rather than

    Cases in age group hospitalised as a % of total cases in age group

    Thanks - yes you’re right, the percentage column adds up to 100%


  • #1846
    hotmail.com
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    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Cabinet make collective decisions.

    Technically, but in real terms, it's 2 or 3 people in the cabinet that make the decisions.


  • #1847
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    If wearing a mask in shops is a legal obligation then, presumably, the proprietors can refuse admission to people who refuse to wear masks or refuse to wear them properly, can't they? After all, the shops are private entities and so they can bar those who break the law, can't they?


  • #1848
    d1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭d1980


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    No, and you know that.

    They'll provide online teaching as they did in March .

    Is there an online plan? I have 3 kids in diff years in school and all they got was homework each Sunday night back in March if that is what you mean by online. Haven’t heard a peep yet for next Monday but Norma did also alude to an online plan so great it’s coming.


  • #1849
    Arghus
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    Norma Foley's main political skill appears to be the ability to talk absolute meaningless waffle, with total conviction.


  • #1850
    mr_edge_to_you
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Who runs the country - the unions or the government?

    The politicians are that scared that they're calling them "partners" rather u****s.


  • #1851
    pawdee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭pawdee


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    The Chinese drink.

    I worked with a Chinese lad once and he was a martyr for the drink. Funny thing was after half a pint he'd turn as red as a tomato.


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  • #1852
    Goldengirl
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Interesting

    I wonder is a contributory factor to the better fatality rate in ICU compared to the UK?

    It is one of many drugs being used . It is quite toxic so patients are carefully selected to go on it and are carefully monitored .
    I am sure they are using it in the UK too in ICU .


  • #1853
    [Deleted User]
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    political analyst wrote: »
    If wearing a mask in shops is a legal obligation then, presumably, the proprietors can refuse admission to people who refuse to wear masks or refuse to wear them properly, can't they? After all, the shops are private entities and so they can bar those who break the law, can't they?

    I'd love to know where you people shop because I've not seen somebody in a shop without a mask for months


  • #1854
    Goldengirl
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    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    No, and you know that.

    They'll provide online teaching as they did in March .

    Yes online teaching for all students starting next week .
    Weyhey !


  • #1855
    spookwoman
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    Arghus wrote: »
    Norma Foley's main political skill appears to be the ability to talk absolute meaningless waffle, with total conviction.

    Daddy was one of the Ansbacher account holders, was a member of the Public Accounts Committee investigating it and was found out.


  • #1856
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,517 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Norma Foley on prime time just said we will have one million people vaccinated by June.....
    I really doubt that tbh....they seem to be extremely slow on rolling them out


  • #1857
    CruelSummer
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    Arghus wrote: »
    Norma Foley's main political skill appears to be the ability to talk absolute meaningless waffle, with total conviction.

    I think she’s doing her best. There are a huge amount of people out there that want schools open right now. Equally there are many who want them closed indefinitely. Dammed if she does & dammed is she doesn’t.


  • #1858
    Irish Steve
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Tony alcohol bashing. Won't be popular. "This virus loves alcohol" :eek:

    And Alcohol has another undesirable effect, it significantly supresses the immune system, which makes it easier for the virus to infect people. So, as well as encouraging a reduction in people's inhibitions, it then also reduces the body's ability to fight off the virus.

    Seems to me that if people can be encouraged to reduce their alcohol intake, it might help reduce the numbers being infected.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #1859
    FintanMcluskey
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don't think you understand what you are trying to measure with quality adjusted life years. So I don't know how to answer the question because you aren't making sense.

    I’m struggling to believe certain claims here!

    It’s not actually a difficult question for someone with your background

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16777545/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2873748/

    Vaccines have cost analysis using QALY

    I was wondering had you seen any studies on it for the Covid vaccine as you were mentioning the economic effects of 6 monthly inoculation for Covid as being cost prohibitive


  • #1860
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    I think she’s doing her best. There are a huge amount of people out there that want schools open right now. Equally there are many who want them closed indefinitely. Dammed if she does & dammed is she doesn’t.

    I agree,no fan of FF but she’s not going to win regardless of what she does,too many vocal objections on each side of the debate


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  • #1861
    MerlinSouthDub
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Norma Foley on prime time just said we will have one million people vaccinated by June.....
    I really doubt that tbh....they seem to be extremely slow on rolling them out

    Oh we will definitely have 1 million vaccinated by June, that's a very conservative estimate once Astra Zeneca and J&J vaccine come on stream.


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