Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

DrumSteve · 07-01-2021 10:39PM

Faugheen wrote: »

I think you are completely downplaying what has happened here.

If Hawley is in the 2024 ticket, then expect the Democrats to mobilise their base, and remind the independents of what Hawley did. This is never going away for him.

Also, and I'll say it again, Trumpists vote for Trump. The 2018 mid-terms and the Georgia Senate runoffs show exactly what happens when Trump is not on the ballot.

I'm not downplaying it at all, it was pretty ****ed up, but I think Hawley calculated they wouldn't go as far as they did.

Either way, he will still turn around and say he stood up for election integrity when it mattered and be the MO senator (at the very least) until he decides to run.

jmayo · 07-01-2021 10:40PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they were terrorists. they were white.

Actually saw a black woman and an Asian looking dude in the protests.
Can't actually figure them, out but hey what can you do.
Stupid comes in all colours and races.

And here is the thing I watched about 4 hours of footage last night and there were black guys wandering through the crowd.
And they were being totally ignored.
No animosity on display.
There were also a load of ones on bicycles wandering around as well.

Now I will admit if they had been the sort we see here in garish ill fitting clothes I would have cheered if they were chased down the street.

My other half lived in DC for a few years and she reckoned it was probably some of the locals checking how the yokels who had arrived in town.

And before the avalanche yes there were some very unsavouary types involved in the protests no doubt.
Especially the ones that led the taking of the Capital building.
As I said earlier I would wonder who was looking after all the food stashes in the forests when they were all in DC.
And a lot of wild animals were safe for at least one day anyway.

jill_valentine · 07-01-2021 10:42PM

Out of interest, a lot of the furniture in Congress is discreetly armoured so it can be used as a bulletproof shield in case of something like this. That's why we saw people lying between rows of seats yesterday, they're bulletproofed.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 10:42PM

jmayo wrote: »

Ah jaysus they are as bad at wrecking places as they are at picking politicians.
Screens all on desks, printer where it should be, lamps in place and working.
Bookshelves not touched.
Hell the coat stand is still in place.

FFS no fires, no painted walls, no smashed desks, no excrement on the walls and doors.

Although if I was Pelosi I would look for her office to be deep cleaned.

Cop on please.

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DC Police confirmed the bombs were operational.

Foxtrol · 07-01-2021 10:45PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

White terrorists....making things about race is not helpful. We need to move back to de-racialising public discourse. I am much more aware of race now than i was in say 2001 and that's sad. We've gone backwards. When I say "retribution" i don't mean holding criminals to account, I mean seeking to further alienate and punish people of a different political stripe and/or cultural & socioeconomic circumstances.

jmayo wrote: »

Making this about race is absolutely the worse thing to do.

And it is probably what Trump would absolutely love.
It is one of the fears he can play on.

And I would bet you would like the same type of discussion here on some reason happenings. :rolleyes:

Trump wouldn't love it because yesterday highlighted to the world the two tier police system that BLM protestors have been raising for years. Ignoring how the race and beliefs of the crowd impacted their treatment by the police is just sticking your head in the sand.

In addition, that mob was riddled with white supremacists and anti-Semites - like Trump's supporters in general.

https://twitter.com/IngeborgNijzink/status/1347134350454710274?s=20

Dressoutlet · 07-01-2021 10:48PM

Q had full access to Congress files. They could have searched for and exposed all the child trafficking and the Deep state. Proven the cabal and elite Hollywood were all real. Instead they sta down and took selfies
Derpy Derpy hillbilly Well lookahere at me in the Capitol Mary Jane
The 'Patriots', the REAL Americans literally took down the stars and stripes from the Capitol and hung nazi symbols.
Trumpists want the name of the vet who was killed (who's husband said was a staunch Trump supporter) to trend on Twitter while in the same sentence say Trumpers did not storm the building Antifa did. So was this Vet Antifa? No she magically floated in and was climbing through the window of senate and got shot.
And yeah she might have believed she was doing it for good cause but Isis believe they're doing it for good cause. If that was an Isis member in the exact same position as her in the exact same window and died in the exact same way would she cry in outrage or thank the Blue.

Foxtrol · 07-01-2021 10:49PM

jill_valentine wrote: »

Out of interest, a lot of the furniture in Congress is discreetly armoured so it can be used as a bulletproof shield in case of something like this. That's why we saw people lying between rows of seats yesterday, they're bulletproofed.

It is a mix of armoured, which is mostly in the chamber, historic furniture, and the remainder is contracted from a company that relies heavily on forced prison labour.

Sardonicat · 07-01-2021 10:51PM

Those t-shirts are sickening. Trump has emboldened people to the degree that they are happy to wear things like this in public and be filmed and photographed in them

07-01-2021 10:54PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Trump wouldn't love it because yesterday highlighted to the world the two tier police system that BLM protestors have been raising for years. Ignoring how the race and beliefs of the crowd impacted their treatment by the police is just sticking your head in the sand.

In addition, that mob was riddled with white supremacists and anti-Semites - like Trump's supporters in general.

https://twitter.com/IngeborgNijzink/status/1347134350454710274?s=20

Wonder does the slimball Kushner family have any thoughts on the type of support base Trump has?

humberklog · 07-01-2021 10:56PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

It is a mix of armoured, which is mostly in the chamber, historic furniture, and the remainder is contracted from a company that relies heavily on forced prison labour.

And the glazing in the building is from my granny's green house.

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 10:57PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Trump wouldn't love it because yesterday highlighted to the world the two tier police system that BLM protestors have been raising for years. Ignoring how the race and beliefs of the crowd impacted their treatment by the police is just sticking your head in the sand.

In addition, that mob was riddled with white supremacists and anti-Semites - like Trump's supporters in general.

https://twitter.com/IngeborgNijzink/status/1347134350454710274?s=20

Right so, race war is inevitable.

namloc1980 · 07-01-2021 10:58PM

Remember the days when Obama wearing a tan suit was a scandal?

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 11:01PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Remember the days when Obama wearing a tan suit was a scandal?

Whe...?

everlast75 · 07-01-2021 11:01PM

Overheal wrote: »

Cop on please.

DC Police confirmed the bombs were operational.

https://twitter.com/keithlalexander/status/1347289481922162690?s=19

Foxtrol · 07-01-2021 11:02PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Right so, race war is inevitable.

The best way to avoid a 'race war' or racial tensions in general is to not put your head in the sand regarding issues of race.

Pretending that everything is grand doesn't make things better, it makes things fester - which is what has happened in the US for decades (/centuries).

Muahahaha · 07-01-2021 11:03PM

Its incredible to think while all this has been going on that the US is now seeing record deaths from Covid, the average is now more than 4,000 dying a day. Which is more than the amount of deaths from 911 and its happening every day.

runawaybishop · 07-01-2021 11:03PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Remember the days when Obama wearing a tan suit was a scandal?

Simpler times eh?

Republican Representative Peter King of New York called Obama's wearing of the suit unpresidential, and stated that “There’s no way, I don’t think, any of us can excuse what the president did yesterday. I mean, you have the world watching.”

Overheal · 07-01-2021 11:04PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Whe...?

How did you not know

It was infamy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrTf6CaTTc0

AllForIt · 07-01-2021 11:05PM

Amazing the amount of people coming out in condemnation of rioting when I don't hear the same people condemning particularly the antics of Antifa or small elements of the BLM movement. And which came first, eh?

I thought it really crass of Biden to say that if the protesters were black they would have been treated more harshly when 4 people died? On another day he'll be thankful for the services of the security forces but this time he insulted them.

Also, I think talk of the incident being an act of sedition is ridiculous. Do you really think their intention was to take over the country in their merry band.

All I see is utter hypocrisy, and spin.

I reiterate - this incident would not have happened if it weren't for the biased influence of the media prior to the election. I know that's a serious accusation to make but that's what I think.

walshb · 07-01-2021 11:06PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Amazing the amount of people coming out in condemnation of rioting when I don't hear the same people condemning particularly the antics of Antifa or small elements of the BLM movement. And which came first, eh?

I thought it really crass of Biden to say that if the protesters were black they would have been treated more harshly when 4 people died? On another day he'll be thankful for the services of the security forces but this time he insulted them.

Also, I think talk of the incident being an act of sedition is ridiculous. Do you really think their intention was to take over the country in their merry band.

All I see is utter hypocrisy, and spin.

I reiterate - this incident would not have happened if it weren't for the biased influence of the media prior to the election. I know that's a big thing to say but that's what I think.

And you’re conveniently leaving out Trump’s influence here..

Blaming everything else..

positron · 07-01-2021 11:09PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Amazing the amount of people coming out in condemnation of rioting when I don't hear the same people condemning particularly the antics of Antifa or small elements of the BLM movement. And which came first, eh?

I thought it really crass of Biden to say that if the protesters were black they would have been treated more harshly when 4 people died? On another day he'll be thankful for the services of the security forces but this time he insulted them.

Also, I think talk of the incident being an act of sedition is ridiculous. Do you really think their intention was to take over the country in their merry band.

All I see is utter hypocrisy, and spin.

I reiterate - this incident would not have happened if it weren't for the biased influence of the media prior to the election. I know that's a serious accusation to make but that's what I think.

This has to be a joke. Got to be.

Dressoutlet · 07-01-2021 11:09PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Amazing the amount of people coming out in condemnation of rioting when I don't hear the same people condemning particularly the antics of Antifa or small elements of the BLM movement. And which came first, eh?

I thought it really crass of Biden to say that if the protesters were black they would have been treated more harshly when 4 people died? On another day he'll be thankful for the services of the security forces but this time he insulted them.

Also, I think talk of the incident being an act of sedition is ridiculous. Do you really think their intention was to take over the country in their merry band.

All I see is utter hypocrisy, and spin.

I reiterate - this incident would not have happened if it weren't for the biased influence of the media prior to the election. I know that's a serious accusation to make but that's what I think.

It would not have happened if Trump hadn't incited it.

Rioting for equal rights is not the same as rioting because your person lost the race. I will die on this hill so don't bother trying to talk me out of it.

Although I don't think anyone should die and I think people should be in prison and not dead, but as a Vet she knew the protocol for this kind of stuff. She could have easily been the one firing at terrorists in the Capitol. And she would be hailed a hero if she was.

namloc1980 · 07-01-2021 11:10PM

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Brainwashed.

07-01-2021 11:10PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

2. Big Tech versus the president was a circus - Big Tech as a supporter of the president is a much more scary prospect.

Please. Trump and his supporters consistently broke all the rules of all the major platforms and were let get away with it.

Sardonicat · 07-01-2021 11:10PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Amazing the amount of people coming out in condemnation of rioting when I don't hear the same people condemning particularly the antics of Antifa or small elements of the BLM movement. And which came first, eh?

I thought it really crass of Biden to say that if the protesters were black they would have been treated more harshly when 4 people died? On another day he'll be thankful for the services of the security forces but this time he insulted them.

Also, I think talk of the incident being an act of sedition is ridiculous. Do you really think their intention was to take over the country in their merry band.

All I see is utter hypocrisy, and spin.

I reiterate - this incident would not have happened if it weren't for the biased influence of the media prior to the election. I know that's a serious accusation to make but that's what I think.

Pipe bombs, molitov cocktails, automatic weapons,cable ties, cops outnumbered and over run. A merry band indeed. While most were just idiots following the mob there was undoubtedly a more sinister element present and ready to do whatever they felt they had to.

Professor Moriarty · 07-01-2021 11:11PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Amazing the amount of people coming out in condemnation of rioting when I don't hear the same people condemning particularly the antics of Antifa or small elements of the BLM movement. And which came first, eh?

I thought it really crass of Biden to say that if the protesters were black they would have been treated more harshly when 4 people died? On another day he'll be thankful for the services of the security forces but this time he insulted them.

Also, I think talk of the incident being an act of sedition is ridiculous. Do you really think their intention was to take over the country in their merry band.

All I see is utter hypocrisy, and spin.

I reiterate - this incident would not have happened if it weren't for the biased influence of the media prior to the election. I know that's a serious accusation to make but that's what I think.

Mainstream media caused the invasion of Capitol Hill by white supremacists, Trumpists and far right-wingers. Excellent analysis.

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 11:11PM

Overheal wrote: »

How did you not know

It was infamy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrTf6CaTTc0

simpler times

ohnonotgmail · 07-01-2021 11:11PM

jmayo wrote: »

Actually saw a black woman and an Asian looking dude in the protests.
Can't actually figure them, out but hey what can you do.
Stupid comes in all colours and races.

And here is the thing I watched about 4 hours of footage last night and there were black guys wandering through the crowd.
And they were being totally ignored.
No animosity on display.
There were also a load of ones on bicycles wandering around as well.

Now I will admit if they had been the sort we see here in garish ill fitting clothes I would have cheered if they were chased down the street.

My other half lived in DC for a few years and she reckoned it was probably some of the locals checking how the yokels who had arrived in town.

And before the avalanche yes there were some very unsavouary types involved in the protests no doubt.
Especially the ones that led the taking of the Capital building.
As I said earlier I would wonder who was looking after all the food stashes in the forests when they were all in DC.
And a lot of wild animals were safe for at least one day anyway.

well that completely blows away my point. :rolleyes:

suicide_circus · 07-01-2021 11:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Please. Trump and his supporters consistently broke all the rules of all the major platforms and were let get away with it.

Ok, nothing to worry about so

Foxtrol · 07-01-2021 11:14PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Amazing the amount of people coming out in condemnation of rioting when I don't hear the same people condemning particularly the antics of Antifa or small elements of the BLM movement. And which came first, eh?

I thought it really crass of Biden to say that if the protesters were black they would have been treated more harshly when 4 people died? On another day he'll be thankful for the services of the security forces but this time he insulted them.

Also, I think talk of the incident being an act of sedition is ridiculous. Do you really think their intention was to take over the country in their merry band.

All I see is utter hypocrisy, and spin.

I reiterate - this incident would not have happened if it weren't for the biased influence of the media prior to the election. I know that's a serious accusation to make but that's what I think.

Who hasn't condemned rioting and looting by BLM?

Good to see you're more annoyed at Biden questioning the performance of the police than Trump and his cronies sending a mob to attack and hospitalise them.

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