Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

MrMusician18 · 07-01-2021 05:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Nah they're hidden, he's required to delete on his side.. I have a feeling they may permanently suspend him as all the other platforms are. He's bad pr for them at this stage.

He is also a huge draw, that's their dilemma.

jill_valentine · 07-01-2021 05:31PM

Can't remember who made the point, but it is an astonishing indictment of Trump's competence that just taking his social media away makes him effectively mute.

namloc1980 · 07-01-2021 05:31PM

FileNotFound wrote: »

Can he be impeached in the last 2 weeks?

Yes he could but time is short.

walshb · 07-01-2021 05:32PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'm not up to speed on this but did Trump actually call on his supporters to attack the Capitol building?

He did not use the specific words, but he absolutely did....

Scumbag of the highest order....

One of the most dangerous people to ever exist when you stop and think about the whole situation...

cnocbui · 07-01-2021 05:33PM

FileNotFound wrote: »

Did you not hear Nicola said he was not allowed enter.

Yes, but that was only after she caught wind of his plans. The point is the plannied escape, not whether he could pull it off.

jimmycrackcorm · 07-01-2021 05:34PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Anyone banned for the BLM riots that had been going on for months ....

Who knows, it is possible as people get banned, but you wouldn't have heard about it as they didn't try an insurrection to overthrow the government so it didn't make the news.

Cody montana · 07-01-2021 05:34PM

biko wrote: »

It's mostly peaceful.

Up to 60 police officers were injured in yesterday's attack at the U.S. Capitol, Rep. Tim Ryan says. 1 in critical condition - NBC

BattleCorp · 07-01-2021 05:38PM

walshb wrote: »

He did not use the specific words, but he absolutely did....

Scumbag of the highest order....

One of the most dangerous people to ever exist when you stop and think about the whole situation...

America was heading down the tubes before Trump got to power. Trump just polarised both sides and hastened the descent down the tubes.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 05:38PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Yes he could but time is short.

They can do it in hours. It’s a privileged constitutional power. The Senate doesn’t even need to debate they could just vote. The same way the senate fast tracked their debates on some of the objections last night. Just “here are the articles let’s vote.”

namloc1980 · 07-01-2021 05:41PM

Overheal wrote: »

They can do it in hours. It’s a privileged constitutional power. The Senate doesn’t even need to debate they could just vote. The same way the senate fast tracked their debates on some of the objections last night. Just “here are the articles let’s vote.”

Highly unlikely that you'd get the numbers to agree to do all that in the space of hours. Need a 2/3rds majority in the Senate to convict.

maebee · 07-01-2021 05:42PM

cnocbui wrote: »

You're a bit late with that, he's already planned his escape days ago.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/plane-sightings-fuel-rumors-trump-planning-escape-to-scotland-on-day-before-biden-inauguration

Not happening. Nicola won't allow it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/trump-not-allowed-scottish-golf-trip-to-avoid-inauguration-sturgeon-warns-1.4450946

everlast75 · 07-01-2021 05:43PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Highly unlikely that you'd get the numbers to agree to do all that in the space of hours. Need a 2/3rds majority in the Senate to convict.

Didn't matter.

Do the right thing.

Impeach him again.

Make him the only president to be impeached twice.

Endintheclowns · 07-01-2021 05:44PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

America was heading down the tubes before Trump got to power. Trump just polarised both sides and hastened the descent down the tubes.

Sooner at later someone will come along with the same outlook as Trump but with a degree of intelligence and become president. That's what Americans should really be worried about.

Tell me how · 07-01-2021 05:45PM

jill_valentine wrote: »

Can't remember who made the point, but it is an astonishing indictment of Trump's competence that just taking his social media away makes him effectively mute.

I can't figure out why he hasn't posted from the @POTUS account today.
I said the same last night and someone said that they have probably taken his phone off him in the White House.

Maybe, or maybe someone has convinced him that he could be facing jail if he continues. His reported comment that he will step down peacefully on Jan 20th today, if it did indeed come from him, is in stark contrast to his 'never surrender' from yesterday.

We will hear exactly what has gone on eventually. With the way people are running from him, we will see tabloid type reveals of the past 24 hours and I expect they will paint a crumbling individual as the reality has sunk in and those who supported him abandoned him.

flazio · 07-01-2021 05:45PM

I hope the current travel restrictions prevent him from hiding it out in Doonbeg.

everlast75 · 07-01-2021 05:46PM

flazio wrote: »

I hope the current travel restrictions prevent him from hiding it out in Doonbeg.

Why?
I don't know about you, but I've plenty of rotten fruit and vegetables i need to get rid of

Tell me how · 07-01-2021 05:49PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Sooner at later someone will come along with the same outlook as Trump but with a degree of intelligence and become president. That's what Americans should really be worried about.

It hasn't happened so far. Trumps outlook was entirely selfish. He was motivated to run because of jealousy over Obama winning and the adulation he received and so much of his decisions in his office were geared towards benefitting business and the economy which would in turn benefit his own pocket.

The last 2 months, and specifically yesterday though I think will ultimately galvanise the US against pandering to celebrity experts with no proven track record in elected office as they did here.

The 74M who voted for Trump are a big market share which the likes of Cruz and others are trying to appeal to but I think we are more likely to see a split in the Republican party than we are to see 74M vote fore another Trump type person in the next 20 years.

07-01-2021 05:49PM

The main man coming up on Matt Cooper after the break.

Donie that is.

Tony EH · 07-01-2021 05:49PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

Just to touch on this. The Valknut is not a white supremacist symbol. It was Odins mark in Viking mythology, and I have it tattooed on me too.

American white supremacists have Co opted Norse mythology and attempted to make it a racist thing, it really really isn't.

I've a swastika tattooed on my forehead. It's originally an Indian good luck symbol.

But people keep giving me weird stares nonetheless.

walshb · 07-01-2021 05:50PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

America was heading down the tubes before Trump got to power. Trump just polarised both sides and hastened the descent down the tubes.

That may or may not be true....whatever down the tubes means...

It doesn't have anything to do with my claim about him, the person, being an extremely dangerous person....

maebee · 07-01-2021 05:52PM

they have probably taken his phone off him in the White House.

I wish they'd take the nuclear codes off him.

BattleCorp · 07-01-2021 05:52PM

walshb wrote: »

That may or may not be true....whatever down the tubes means...

It doesn't have anything to do with my claim about him, the person, being an extremely dangerous person....

Down the tubes = going to sh1t.

I don't disagree with you. My point was that it isn't all Trump's fault. Most of the problems happening now have been building since long before Trump decided to enter politics.

Tony EH · 07-01-2021 06:00PM

dasdog wrote: »

He has some interesting views to say the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNl0V6KkOrM

Jamiroquai has really let himself down since the music career went belly up.

Overheal · 07-01-2021 06:04PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Highly unlikely that you'd get the numbers to agree to do all that in the space of hours. Need a 2/3rds majority in the Senate to convict.

For this case no there would be debate. In theory however if the abuse of power was naked and blatant enough, a congress could swiftly move to impeach and convict a president. Too many Republicans are still hiding behind Antifa conspiracies and “well he did say the word peaceful so everything else hes said about violence is irrelevant”

FileNotFound · 07-01-2021 06:05PM

maebee wrote: »

I wish they'd take the nuclear codes off him.

I'd seriously hope they have....

Lewis_Benson · 07-01-2021 06:05PM

dasdog wrote: »

He has some interesting views to say the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNl0V6KkOrM

Stopped as soon as he started speaking.

07-01-2021 06:07PM

maebee wrote: »

I wish they'd take the nuclear codes off him.

There's isn't a hope in hell he could launch a nuke right now.

jill_valentine · 07-01-2021 06:08PM

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

Stopped as soon as he started speaking.

There are photos of him meeting Giuliani.

briany · 07-01-2021 06:14PM

Tony EH wrote: »

Jamiroquai has really let himself down since the music career went belly up.

Yeah, his insanity's a lot less virtual these days, judging from that clip.

Tell me how · 07-01-2021 06:15PM

Weepsie wrote: »

They were not all votes for trump though. Not all 74 million just as not all 81 million were for biden.

A lot of trump's were just staunch Republicans who would have voted for whatever patsy was running and will continue to do so.

Same for the democrats, however biden probably got a.lot of anti-trump voters too, not because they're democrats or care about biden bit they're just so completely sick of Trump.

Agree. Have previously said here 40% of electorate who will usually vote are pretty iron clad for either Republican or Democrat. 15% probably fluctuate a bit and the last 5% are 'no hope' candidates supporters.

Victory comes in which side can motivate most of their own dedicated people to come out and vote and can appeal to the 15% who might fluctuate.

Weepsie wrote: »

Why there are still only 2 realistic parties is bizarre too, because even within these parties there are many factions that would have different ideas of republicanism and what it is democrats do.

Think the size of the country is a big factor. There was about half a billion spend on the run off races in Georgia in the last 2 months. :eek: Any party trying to get in to the game on a national level either will have to have super funding (one of richest people or organizations in the world level of funding) or will start locally or regional, and build gradually. But, people are constrained by their own ambitions and if you had political interests as a 25 year old, which would appeal to you more? Aligning yourself with one of the behemoths, or eeking out a cohort of like minded people in the local city hall and possibly target state elections in 15 years and maybe make a run at a house seat ten years after that? Bear in mind what Bernie Sanders did in this respect.

When Obama won, there was talk from some Republicans of a 'Tea party' which would probably have taken many from the more conservative wing of the Republican party but that died fairly quickly. I saw Sarah Palin resurrect talk around this in the last few days again but it is worth noting that the RNC and DNC would see talk of a new 'affiliate' party as being very bad for their hopes to take control and so would do their best to stomp it out before it gained much momentum.

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