Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

ohnonotgmail · 07-01-2021 05:37PM

robinph wrote: »

The Facebook ban for trump has become permanent, finally:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1347210379332644868

only a couple of years too late but better than nothing.

everlast75 · 07-01-2021 05:37PM

storker wrote: »

They believed it on the basis on no evidence whatsoever, relying instead on the claims of a narcissist whose response to any defeat throughout his political career has been to dismiss the vote as rigged. This makes them idiots.

If they didn't learn after 61 ****ing Court case defeats, then perhaps it is reasonable for people to write them off.

BattleCorp · 07-01-2021 05:38PM

walshb wrote: »

Trump got into your head, eh?

So for hundreds years now the "greatest democracy on earth" has been getting it arse ways?

On the contrary, I'm not in the Trump camp. I think if there was a better voting system in the US, Trump would have lost by more votes.

There has long been problems with the US voting system. There are many things but I'll only touch on a couple of them.

Voter suppression is one of the main things. Some of these include making it very cumbersome for some voters to register to vote. In 2016, only 64% of Americans who were eligible to vote were actually registered. In the UK it's over 90% and in Slovakia it's 99%. An example of a State making registration to vote is Georgia's Exact Match law enacted in 2017. This held up the applications of 53,000 people, 70% of them African Americans.

Other practices include some States (Georgia for example) actively removing people from the register for such stupid reasons as not having voted in the previous 3 years. Practices to remove voters seem to disproportionately affect black, hispanic and native Americans.

That's 2 reasons for starters. I'm hungry so I'm going to get grub. Might add a few more reasons later.

Leroy42 · 07-01-2021 05:38PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Probably the fact the whole worlds cheers it on, as it got rid of Trump , but at the same time saying '' mail in voting, ha no chance, not for us''

Despite there being no evidence that there was actually any issues?

The rest of the world didn't get rid of Trump, anymore than they put him there. The US voters decided who they wanted to be POTUS, just as they did in 2016.

Trump, as POTUS, had a responsibility to ensure that the system was working. Had he dealt with the Pandemic a bit differently maybe, maybe not, but that was the conditions they were forced to deal with and it appears Biden was better at adapting to the realities of the election in 2020. Trump was stuck back in 2016.

Trump was, rightly, lauded for his targeting of particular vote areas in 2016, it seems it didn't bother to adapt. So the reality is the Biden played a better campaign that Trump.

Simple as.

robinph · 07-01-2021 05:40PM

storker wrote: »

They believed it on the basis on no evidence whatsoever, relying instead on the claims of a narcissist whose response to any defeat throughout his political career has been to dismiss the vote as rigged. This makes them idiots.

Claims of vote rigging by Trump go back way before he had any aspirations of running for president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/21/us/politics/trump-apprentice-emmy.html

It is never that people don't vote for him, always that the vote was rigged against him... the vote is even rigged against him when he wins. See the 2016 presidential election where the only claims of vote fraud were from Trump because despite winning he couldn't get his head around the fact that he got less votes in the popular vote.

robinph · 07-01-2021 05:45PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Anyone banned for the BLM riots that had been going on for months ....

Any heads of state encouraging riots and disruption of the political process due to the BLM protests? Or telling the rioters and looters that they loved them and that they were great people doing the rioting? Any heads of state claiming election fraud around the BLM protests despite zero evidence of such?

everlast75 · 07-01-2021 05:45PM

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1347219937144819718?s=19

Nice

storker · 07-01-2021 05:48PM

robinph wrote: »

It is never that people don't vote for him, always that the vote was rigged against him... the vote is even rigged against him when he wins. See the 2016 presidential election where the only claims of vote fraud were from Trump because despite winning he couldn't get his head around the fact that he got less votes in the popular vote.

"Thus ego doth make fcukwits of us all...", as Shakespeare might have put it.

Tippex · 07-01-2021 05:49PM

The Mayor of DC holding a press conference.
Wants control of the DC national guard transferred from president to the mayor.
Asked why the federal security response was lacking compared to last summers “protests”.
Finally stated all participants should be prosecuted specifically calling out Trump for the incitement.

Buford T Justice · 07-01-2021 05:55PM

Some hours have passed since his twitter ban was lifted, and yet nothing from him yet.

Doctors room ghost · 07-01-2021 05:56PM

Heard a good one on the wireless there.
After what happened yesterday, Mexico has decided it will pay for the wall and now Canada wants one aswell.

runawaybishop · 07-01-2021 05:57PM

Buford T Justice wrote: »

Some hours have passed since his twitter ban was lifted, and yet nothing from him yet.

The ban will only be lifted after 1) 12 hours have passed and 2) he deletes the tweets

Maybe he hasn't deleted them? Or he is away sulking. Not mutually exclusive I guess.

FileNotFound · 07-01-2021 06:01PM

Some people may regret decisions if they go after them under domestic terrorism rules.

Should be interesting watching for the next while.

Buford T Justice · 07-01-2021 06:01PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

The ban will only be lifted after 1) 12 hours have passed and 2) he deletes the tweets

Maybe he hasn't deleted them? Or he is away sulking. Not mutually exclusive I guess.

Tweets were removed by twitter

JupiterKid · 07-01-2021 06:01PM

What happened in Washington DC yesterday evening - as farcical and comical as it might have looked at times - was a very serious threat to the fundamental democratic institutions the USA is built upon.

Trump clearly fomented the insurrection/coup attempt in his inflammatory speech beforehand - IMO he is guilty of sedition, treason, should be immediately removed under the 25th Amendment and tried for treason and sedition - very serious crimes in the USA, I believe.

At this stage I can see Trump trying to flee the country, set up a “government in exile” and a media platform somewhere and continue to try to whip up hatred, division and claim he is still the rightful POTUS in exile etc etc.

The Republican Party will be in meltdown, and rightly so. Getting into bed with Trump and his acolytes will be the biggest error of judgement they ever made.

James Brown · 07-01-2021 06:03PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Anyone banned for the BLM riots that had been going on for months ....

A fair few were killed by the police and others, coincidentally, that's why there is a BLM movement.
These people were bitching because they missed out on haircuts and their man lost an election.

TBF, if you can point to anyone inciting insurrection and an attack on the democratic process who wasn't banned from Facebook (:rolleyes:) do tell?

cnocbui · 07-01-2021 06:03PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Pence, Barr, Facebook, McConnel, Graham, the WH staffers who resigned after yesterday can all take a running jump.

We all saw what was happening. They're only doing this now because they know he's done. It's not surprising, even Fox will join them even though it will take Tucker and Hannity and Pirro and Ingraham some time but they should never be let do a PR rinse on their role in this.

Call them out on it every time.

If you ask me, the biggest scumbag of them all is the doctor who certified Trump as being mentally fit for office. Several well qualified psychologists/psychiatrists, including two professors, have said there was ample evidence to diagnose Trump as having pathological narcissism.

Those fatalities in Washington are a direct result of his mental condition and the actions it has spurred him to take.

07-01-2021 06:08PM

Buford T Justice wrote: »

Tweets were removed by twitter

Nah they're hidden, he's required to delete on his side.. I have a feeling they may permanently suspend him as all the other platforms are. He's bad pr for them at this stage.

ohnonotgmail · 07-01-2021 06:12PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

What happened in Washington DC yesterday evening - as farcical and comical as it might have looked at times - was a very serious threat to the fundamental democratic institutions the USA is built upon.

Trump clearly fomented the insurrection/coup attempt in his inflammatory speech beforehand - IMO he is guilty of sedition, treason, should be immediately removed under the 25th Amendment and tried for treason and sedition - very serious crimes in the USA, I believe.

At this stage I can see Trump trying to flee the country, set up a “government in exile” and a media platform somewhere and continue to try to whip up hatred, division and claim he is still the rightful POTUS in exile etc etc.

The Republican Party will be in meltdown, and rightly so. Getting into bed with Trump and his acolytes will be the biggest error of judgement they ever made.

the treason charge would be the most serious for trump. not for the prison time but it would prevent him from running for president again. and not because it would prevent him from running for president. Serious because he could not run for office therefore he could not solicit donations for a presidential run. It would cut off his grift.

Tony EH · 07-01-2021 06:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If you think Antifa staged this, I suggest attending a psychiatrist.

Is it really any more outlandish that the rest of the baseless, simple minded, gibberish that Trump supporters believe?

billyhead · 07-01-2021 06:14PM

Could yesterday's lack of security be a result of an inside job. I find it hard to fathom how the mob could just walk into the building basically unchallenged.

everlast75 · 07-01-2021 06:15PM

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1347227814936788994?s=19

FileNotFound · 07-01-2021 06:17PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

What happened in Washington DC yesterday evening - as farcical and comical as it might have looked at times - was a very serious threat to the fundamental democratic institutions the USA is built upon.

Trump clearly fomented the insurrection/coup attempt in his inflammatory speech beforehand - IMO he is guilty of sedition, treason, should be immediately removed under the 25th Amendment and tried for treason and sedition - very serious crimes in the USA, I believe.

At this stage I can see Trump trying to flee the country, set up a “government in exile” and a media platform somewhere and continue to try to whip up hatred, division and claim he is still the rightful POTUS in exile etc etc.

The Republican Party will be in meltdown, and rightly so. Getting into bed with Trump and his acolytes will be the biggest error of judgement they ever made.

The only thing Trump will do now is book a holiday for the same day as the inauguration.

Then again he forever surprises me haha!!

FileNotFound · 07-01-2021 06:18PM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1347227814936788994?s=19

That requires his own cabinet to vote against him and there are too many lackeys on it right now - the resignations made it even safer.

Even CNN accept its a pipe dream.

Endintheclowns · 07-01-2021 06:19PM

A few white nutters break into Congress and are shot dead = What did they expect

A few black nutters break into and loot shops and businesses during BLM eh "protests" and the police stand by watching = They are oppressed

Liberal logic.

sonofenoch · 07-01-2021 06:19PM

robinph wrote: »

Any heads of state encouraging riots and disruption of the political process due to the BLM protests? Or telling the rioters and looters that they loved them and that they were great people doing the rioting? Any heads of state claiming election fraud around the BLM protests despite zero evidence of such?

Is it only heads of state get banned from social media...............everyone love the 'peaceful protester'

:D

everlast75 · 07-01-2021 06:21PM

https://twitter.com/davidcicilline/status/1347228936594477057?s=19

flazio · 07-01-2021 06:26PM

For the sake of two weeks, I'd say anyone who wants to get away from Trump, particularly anyone in high office should stay put and keep him in check and hold the 25th amendment over him should he attempt something really stupid.

FileNotFound · 07-01-2021 06:26PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

A few white nutters break into Congress and are shot dead = What did they expect

A few black nutters break into and loot shops and businesses during BLM eh "protests" and the police stand by watching = They are oppressed

Liberal logic.

Haha...

I would have imagined that breaking into US Gov building would just get you auto shot - yet a load of idiots were let off....

In fairness the cops probably saw the stupid in the Trump supporters faces and felt some pity..

They are terrorists now....:p:p:p:p:p

cnocbui · 07-01-2021 06:28PM

FileNotFound wrote: »

The only thing Trump will do now is book a holiday for the same day as the inauguration.

Then again he forever surprises me haha!!

You're a bit late with that, he's already planned his escape days ago.

Something strange is happening on the west coast of Scotland. According to a report from the Sunday Post, a lot of unusual U.S. military activity has been recorded at one airport that just so happens to be very close to President Donald Trump’s flagship Scottish golf resort. In fact, the report states that Prestwick airport has been told to expect the arrival of a U.S. military Boeing 757 plane, one that has reportedly been used by Trump before, on Jan. 19.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/plane-sightings-fuel-rumors-trump-planning-escape-to-scotland-on-day-before-biden-inauguration

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