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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • #6932
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Loeffler about to speak now.

    EDIT: So, she's not conceding.... she's going to win this election!!!

    LMAO!!!


  • #6933
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,247 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Donald has started on the conspiracies

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346685023861272580


  • #6934
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,247 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Loeffler about to speak now.

    EDIT: So, she's not conceding.... she's going to win this election!!!

    LMAO!!!

    I'm watching CNN, didn't see anything? Where was that?


  • #6935
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Donald has started on the conspiracies

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346685023861272580

    He started those 5 years ago.

    I'm glad he's watching it. Must be killing him.


  • #6936
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    It's simply astonishing how they picked Trump in the first place.
    It's like how we picked Dustin the turkey or those red-head twins to represent us in the Eurovision.

    Voting for any other reason than what you should be.

    In fairness, I’d have voted for Dustin, as a good poke in the eye of folks who take Eurovision too seriously.

    Jedward, however, was a shooting offense.


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  • #6937
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,799 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I will enjoy seeing Mitch McConnell sidelined.


  • #6938
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Was not expecting a double win for the Dems. Still not done, but looking quite good at the moment.

    Trump will go mental tomorrow.


  • #6939
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Trumps finale. The dems to have both houses. You couldn't make it up.


  • #6940
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,164 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well this is a surprise to wake up to. The two GOP candidates have only themselves to blame and then the trump factor was the final nail in the coffin.


  • #6941
    dogbert27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Ossoff-Perdue isn't officially called yet though is it?

    And Loeffler is refusing to concede so will there be further court cases coming from her to claim election fraud too?


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  • #6942
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Will be interesting to see if this impacts Pence today at the senate. Trump and Mitch will be piling even more pressure on him to challenge the results.

    Still won't be easy to pass some of the changes they want to, given how center some of the sitting Dems are.
    dogbert27 wrote: »
    Ossoff-Perdue isn't officially called yet though is it?

    And Loeffler is refusing to concede so will there be further court cases coming from her to claim election fraud too?

    Still not called, and Loeffler won't concede. She'll hang on and call foul for as long as possible.


  • #6943
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Fell asleep a couple of hours ago when Ossoff took the lead.

    The whole night was a microcosm of November's madness.

    Hopefully the rest of the ballots to be counted keep breaking for the Dems so that they get over the 0.5% threshold.


  • #6944
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    This is almost sweeter than the biden win. Trump hands dems the senate. Glorious.


  • #6945
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Joe Manchin will become very important to both parties now.


  • #6946
    Dillonb3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    froog wrote: »
    This is almost sweeter than the biden win. Trump hands dems the senate. Glorious.

    4 years of Trump presidency has seen Arizona and Georgia changing their presidential votes from republican to Democrat and 4 senate seats from Republican to Democrat


  • #6947
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,692 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Per fivethirtyeight.com re: Georgia runoff:

    "...the more heavily a county backed Trump in the November general election, the more its runoff turnout tended to drop relative the general"


  • #6948
    kilns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    The senate race could have a bigger impact on US politics than the presidential race, if Dems win control of the senate, it will vindicate the likes of Romney even more and could be a real opportunity for real geniune conservative Republicans to assess their party and start to steer it in another direction before its too late.

    No doubt the Trump base will stay there but they need to cut them loose and those charlatan politcians who play to them


  • #6949
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,741 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Leaving aside anything Republican vs Democrat, waking up and seeing Loeffler defeated is a good start to the day. Didn't know who she was before the election and the insider trading but have discovered what a piece of work she is since then.


  • #6950
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    froog wrote: »
    This is almost sweeter than the biden win. Trump hands dems the senate. Glorious.

    Still commiserating that, if they had won the Senate properly without the runoff, they could have been legislating since Monday. Now the have to wait for the recounts/disputes etc. to seat these 2, and you can bet the Senate could see some obstruction on confirming Biden’s cabinet.


  • #6951
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Kiith wrote: »
    Joe Manchin will become very important to both parties now.

    Yep. Probably the most powerful Senator in there now.


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  • #6952
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It's over. Republicans win both senate seats.

    Well that's aged well


  • #6953
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Kiith wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see if this impacts Pence today at the senate. Trump and Mitch will be piling even more pressure on him to challenge the results.

    Still won't be easy to pass some of the changes they want to, given how center some of the sitting Dems are.


    Still not called, and Loeffler won't concede. She'll hang on and call foul for as long as possible.

    Warnocks lead is way outside any margin for a recount , so Loeffler can whinge all she likes.

    They'll probably go back to court to try and overturn the decision by Stacey Abrams sister , but that only involved about 4k votes , so not enough to matter.

    If Ossoffs wins as projected , then Perdue might make the recount threshold , but again it won't change the result.

    You have to wonder looking at the different results in the two races - Who in hell voted for Warnock AND Perdue?

    Utterly bizarre.


  • #6954
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,469 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Kiith wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see if this impacts Pence today at the senate. Trump and Mitch will be piling even more pressure on him to challenge the results.

    He can't challenge the results.


  • #6955
    MJohnston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,732 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Warnocks lead is way outside any margin for a recount , so Loeffler can whinge all she likes.

    They'll probably go back to court to try and overturn the decision by Stacey Abrams sister , but that only involved about 4k votes , so not enough to matter.

    If Ossoffs wins as projected , then Perdue might make the recount threshold , but again it won't change the result.

    You have to wonder looking at the different results in the two races - Who in hell voted for Warnock AND Perdue?

    Utterly bizarre.

    Well see Perdue is a real incumbent, unlike Loeffler, so he was always going to have a slight edge over Ossoff because of that. Likely there were some swing voter shifts who split the ticket.


  • #6956
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    If the Democrats hold on for the 50-50 then as well as having legislative implications it will also allow them to confirm federal judges without needing to rely on the largesse of Mitch McConnell. That also, of course, includes the Supreme Court and I would think that there is a good chance that 82 year old liberal justice Stephen Bryer might step down if he knows that Biden can replace him with a like-minded judge.


  • #6957
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Mike Pence won’t (and can’t) do anything other than give the Republican challengers what they want if they object, because they have the right to do so.

    When the House shoots those objections down. Pence will move on as normal


  • #6958
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Kiith wrote: »
    Joe Manchin will become very important to both parties now.

    This is a key pillar of the whole chapter, forgotten in the immediate mathematical fallout of Georgia: Manchin is the very definition of Democrat In Name Only and it's entirely possible - if not likely - he'll cross the aisle for any and all bills that have even the vaguest whiff of "Liberalism" (which in 2020 America now also includes environmentalism and sensible pandemic strategies, perversely). The victory today is the Democrats but I suspect there'll still be deep struggles to get manifestos applied. A 50-50 split is still a precarious position.


  • #6959
    kilns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Yep. Probably the most powerful Senator in there now.

    Dont forget Susan...


  • #6960
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    kilns wrote: »
    Dont forget Susan...

    Nah, she's only relevant if the Republicans are in the majority. As a Republican she's already to the right of Manchin by definition, since the gap between the parties is so large now.
    • Collins voted with Trump 66% of the time - which was the lowest of any Republican.
    • Manchin voted with him 51% of the time - which was the highest of any of the remaining Democrats.

    Manchin and the 2 Senators from Arizona: Sinema (also 51% Trump score) and Kelly (new) are the swing votes now.


    Trump scores link


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  • #6961
    embraer170
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Thank you Trump!


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