The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

bobbysands81 · 02-01-2021 04:13PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

What did Bobby say in ‘Deliverance’. “We got a live one here”.

And in keeping with previous posts the ‘Bobby’ is not Mr Sands.

Seems I have to explain everything now...

You’re not explaining, you’re deflecting... and making a fool of yourself in the process.

piplip87 · 02-01-2021 09:26PM

I see the left side of SF are going all BLM on the happening in Blanchardstown while the older "up the RA" faction are calling for deportations. Jaysus they are tearing lumps.of eachother on social media for the past few days.

Brendan Bendar · 03-01-2021 10:49AM

Benoit Blanc wrote: »

SF will edge towards an overall majority when they realise most of their support base are in the latter as opposed to the former. Working Class/Increasingly Despondent people with strong nationalistic views. Not necessarily racist, but wondering why our children are emigrating while we still have immigration. No one has explained that to the people who want the sort of radicalism SF stand for. Who want a United Ireland.

There's no overall majority or even largest party for SF until they realise who their electorate really is. They don't want socialism.

Welcome aboard, a chara.

Brendan Bendar · 04-01-2021 11:13AM

Are the white shirts coming out of the hot press for poor Michael?

Good Republican wadd’ t he?

FrancieBrady · 04-01-2021 12:43PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Are the white shirts coming out of the hot press for poor Michael?

Good Republican wadd’ t he?

Showing your ignorance there Brendi...a lot make the same mistake. Nothing to do with SF or this thread.

McMurphy · 04-01-2021 12:49PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Are the white shirts coming out of the hot press for poor Michael?

Good Republican wadd’ t he?

I'd say Maira Cahill's making a few pots of tea and ham sandwiches for the afters bren.

Maybe Enda will give her a hand if hes at a loose end.

04-01-2021 01:21PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Showing your ignorance there Brendi...a lot make the same mistake. Nothing to do with SF or this thread.

Would he not be a former member pre GFA?

FrancieBrady · 04-01-2021 01:23PM

jh79 wrote: »

Would he not be a former member pre GFA?

And? What would his funeral have to do with SF and this thread? He was diametrically opposed to SF..which would leave him closer to FG and FF politically..

04-01-2021 01:28PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And? What would his funeral have to do with SF and this thread? He was diametrically opposed to SF..which would leave him closer to FG and FF politically..

Closer to FG/FF

? He opposed SF working for the British and their acceptance of partition as legitimate. SF and FF/FG all accept partition, his party didn't.

FrancieBrady · 04-01-2021 01:35PM

jh79 wrote: »

Closer to FG/FF? He opposed SF working for the British and their acceptance of partition as legitimate. SF and FF/FG all accept partition, his party didn't.

He is politically closer in that he opposes SF with the same fervour as FF FG do. Useful allies, just like the one selected by Enda, that McMurphy pointed out. Any port in a storm as they say. Wonder would FG have used him too?

04-01-2021 01:44PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He is politically closer in that he opposes SF with the same fervour as FF FG do. Useful allies, just like the one selected by Enda, that McMurphy pointed out. Any port in a storm as they say. Wonder would FG have used him too?

Given he split from the IRA not as easily bought than the likes of his fellow "comrades" such as Kelly i would say.

FrancieBrady · 04-01-2021 01:48PM

jh79 wrote: »

Given he split from the IRA not as easily bought than the likes of his fellow "comrades" such as Kelly i would say.

Not interested in your admiration for dissidents jh79, maybe open a thread on them, see if you can find similar minds to have a discussion with.
I am and always was interested in democratic solutions to the problems caused by a disastrous partitioning of this island.

Brendan Bendar · 04-01-2021 01:48PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Showing your ignorance there Brendi...a lot make the same mistake. Nothing to do with SF or this thread.

Just asking a question Francie, trying to get a handle on the event!

No need to throw shade on the auld Brenner lad.

FrancieBrady · 04-01-2021 01:49PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Just asking a question Francie, trying to get a handle on the event!

No need to throw shade on the auld Brenner lad.

Well I know how desperate you renegades are for deflection Brendi...just cutting you off at the pass, so to speak.

04-01-2021 01:52PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not interested in your admiration for dissidents jh79, maybe open a thread on them, see if you can find similar minds to have a discussion with.
I am and always was interested in democratic solutions to the problems caused by a disastrous partitioning of this island.

Trust me i'm glad the IRA and SF love a bit of sterling. The fact that they needed to be bought doesn't bother me as it gave us peace. He's was just a more principled type of scumbag unlike for example Storey.

Brendan Bendar · 04-01-2021 01:52PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well I know how desperate you renegades are for deflection Brendi...just cutting you off at the pass, so to speak.

Not a problem Francie, not a problem.

FrancieBrady · 04-01-2021 01:55PM

jh79 wrote: »

Trust me i'm glad the IRA and SF love a bit of sterling. The fact that they needed to be bought doesn't bother me as it gave us peace. He's was just a more principled type of scumbag unlike for example Storey.

As I say, your admiration of his 'principles' perhaps better aired in it's own thread.

Brendan Bendar · 04-01-2021 01:58PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not interested in your admiration for dissidents jh79, maybe open a thread on them, see if you can find similar minds to have a discussion with.
I am and always was interested in democratic solutions to the problems caused by a disastrous partitioning of this island.

There is one, wait until the conditions are right for the Unionists to want to join up.

And given the apathy towards the Shinners in Govt. in the South it could be a long wait .

FrancieBrady · 04-01-2021 02:09PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

There is one, wait until the conditions are right for the Unionists to want to join up.

And given the apathy towards the Shinners in Govt. in the South it could be a long wait .

More Unionists than at any other time in my life are willing to consider it Brendi...from Peter Robinson to a few of my neighbours.
FG and FF will see the bandwagon shortly and clamber on pretending to have always been on it... dang, they'll even be claiming to have been driving said wagon.

James Brown · 04-01-2021 03:48PM

piplip87 wrote: »

I see the left side of SF are going all BLM on the happening in Blanchardstown while the older "up the RA" faction are calling for deportations. Jaysus they are tearing lumps.of eachother on social media for the past few days.

Not a Fine Gael thread.

RandomViewer · 04-01-2021 05:48PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

More Unionists than at any other time in my life are willing to consider it Brendi...from Peter Robinson to a few of my neighbours.
FG and FF will see the bandwagon shortly and clamber on pretending to have always been on it... dang, they'll even be claiming to have been driving said wagon.

FG will always object in the hope of a few hundred protestant votes along the border, The likes of the Brutons still hoping for some sort of honor from the Queen

James Brown · 04-01-2021 06:05PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG will always object in the hope of a few hundred protestant votes along the border, The likes of the Brutons still hoping for some sort of honor from the Queen

The only trick in their bag of cons to keep the shinners at bay is old 'RA stories and faux outrage about old tweets. So they'll not engage in anything that might put the troubles/conflict behind us, be that holding the British to account or acknowledging and supporting anything the shinners push for.

RandomViewer · 04-01-2021 06:50PM

Bowie wrote: »

The only trick in their bag of cons to keep the shinners at bay is old 'RA stories and faux outrage about old tweets. So they'll not engage in anything that might put the troubles/conflict behind us, be that holding the British to account or acknowledging and supporting anything the shinners push for.

We've reached a level now where any legislation proposed by any member of the opposition will be shot down no matter how good it may be, FFG are opening ba ttlefronts every where, even between themselves,

jm08 · 05-01-2021 03:18PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG will always object in the hope of a few hundred protestant votes along the border, The likes of the Brutons still hoping for some sort of honor from the Queen

A UI will finish FG and to a lessor extent, FF (who has some sort of an affiliation with the SDLP). FG is preparing to get into bed with the DUP in the event of a UI, where SF will be by far the largest party.

James Brown · 05-01-2021 04:04PM

jm08 wrote: »

A UI will finish FG and to a lessor extent, FF (who has some sort of an affiliation with the SDLP). FG is preparing to get into bed with the DUP in the event of a UI, where SF will be by far the largest party.

It's sad that the faith of the north is relying on FF/FG not wanting to be seen to agree with the shinners. It's selfish.

FrancieBrady · 05-01-2021 04:37PM

Bowie wrote: »

It's sad that the faith of the north is relying on FF/FG not wanting to be seen to agree with the shinners. It's selfish.

If Unionists are putting their faith in FG and FF then they'll be even more sorely shafted than they were by Johnson and May.
If a Border Poll is called FF and FG will be tripping over themselves trying to be the ones who delivered a UI.

The only friends the Unionists have are southern partitionists and I am only fascinated to see who is going to represent them come a poll.

James Brown · 05-01-2021 05:06PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If Unionists are putting their faith in FG and FF then they'll be even more sorely shafted than they were by Johnson and May.
If a Border Poll is called FF and FG will be tripping over themselves trying to be the ones who delivered a UI.

The only friends the Unionists have are southern partitionists and I am only fascinated to see who is going to represent them come a poll.

The Black and Tan/RIC commemoration was either a testing of the waters or complete ignorant arrogance. As I've said before, Sinn Fein don't own the hopes for a UI. It's one thing for FF/FG to keep flogging the IRA to try cover for piss poor governance but they'll be very sorry if they think disrupting any talk on a UI to stick it to Shinners will help them.

I can see the like of the DUP and the new batch FG marrying to some extent. Spite, entitlement and arrogance.

05-01-2021 05:35PM

Bowie wrote: »

The Black and Tan/RIC commemoration was either a testing of the waters or complete ignorant arrogance. As I've said before, Sinn Fein don't own the hopes for a UI. It's one thing for FF/FG to keep flogging the IRA to try cover for piss poor governance but they'll be very sorry if they think disrupting any talk on a UI to stick it to Shinners will help them.

I can see the like of the DUP and the new batch FG marrying to some extent. Spite, entitlement and arrogance.

I don't think it's FF/FG you have to worry about more so the general apathy to an UI in the Republic.

jm08 · 05-01-2021 06:04PM

jh79 wrote: »

I don't think it's FF/FG you have to worry about more so the general apathy to an UI in the Republic.

Really? Have you anything to back up that assertion?

Majority of people in the Republic want Irish unity referendum within five years

https://www.thejournal.ie/united-ireland-border-poll-results-4896963-Nov2019/

And exit poll at last general election

Do you think there should be referendums north and south in the next five years on Irish unity, or not?

A total of 57% said yes; 40% said no; 3% had no response.

https://www.thejournal.ie/ge2020-border-poll-4999083-Feb2020/

McMurphy · 05-01-2021 06:14PM

jh79 wrote: »

I don't think it's FF/FG you have to worry about more so the general apathy to an UI in the Republic.

What party do you envisage campaigning for a no vote when (not if) the referendum does get underway?

The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

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