Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

Vicxas · 04-01-2021 11:04PM

Normally i'd try and come away with some positives, but my god that was worse than watching paint dry.

The biggest thing from me is the constant long balls, where is our passing through the ranks gone?

Osmosis Jones · 04-01-2021 11:04PM

There's never a time to mention referees it seems, when you win it's "who cares?" and when you lose you're being bitter.

There's a legitimate conversation to be had about the quality of refereeing while also still acknowledging Liverpool's lacklustre performance.

mada999 · 04-01-2021 11:07PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Marriner is on one tonight lol.

we usually do not get anything from him.... he like's the physical

Francie Barrett · 04-01-2021 11:07PM

We should be sending the kids out in the cup to see what they can do. I also hope that the squad is sent out for warm weather training in Dubai (if possible) this year. Change of scenery/weather/training would help freshen things up, I hope.

fyfe79 · 04-01-2021 11:07PM

mada999 wrote: »

afraid because we are weak back in defence .... have to question Klopp's decision playing our two best CM in defence.... no balance... i'd start the two youngsters in defence and let hendo and fab play in midfield to shield the defence...

worried now...we getting no luck at all...anti luck it seems.... looks like someone is trying to balance out the league....

Utd could end our home unbeaten run...Poggers and the boyz will be at diving trials for the olympics against us i said

It'll be a reversal of that game vs Moyes Utd at OT when Gerrard had 3 penalties.

They'll get 3 this time.

Fromvert · 04-01-2021 11:08PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

I asked last week partly joking if Klopp would think of going back to the heavy metal style of football we played in 2017 before VVD arrived and he changed it to a more controlling game. Now that VVD is out long term and we cant keep clean sheets we need to outscore everyone. All the same players who played heavy metal football are still there, they all know that system and it delivers goals, lots of them.

Yup, or go in to some games and give up possession. See how the other team react when Liverpool don't want the ball, do they slowly get confidence and try to play a little?

Have to try something else anyway.

Ikozma · 04-01-2021 11:08PM

Front 3 needs a shake up, teams, know how to nullify us at this stage, we are so easy to play against, City will be laughing all the way to the title now I'm afraid, we simply don't deserve it based on performances so far anyway, injuries haven't helped obviously

BorneTobyWilde · 04-01-2021 11:08PM

Salah puts up a Christmas Tree, Mane has a hissy fit, and the rest is history. Haven't won a game since .

~Rebel~ · 04-01-2021 11:08PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

I asked last week partly joking if Klopp would think of going back to the heavy metal style of football we played in 2017 before VVD arrived and he changed it to a more controlling game. Now that VVD is out long term and we cant keep clean sheets we need to outscore everyone. All the same players who played heavy metal football are still there, they all know that system and it delivers goals, lots of them.

With the schedule and lack of recovery time I don't think that style is sustainable anymore. Look at the running and pressing stats - the whole league is significantly down on previous years. It's why the once-outdated Mourinho method has returned in force.

If we think we have injuries now, I'd say we'd need to convert Kirkby into a hospital if we started flogging the lads to run like that again!

SlickRic · 04-01-2021 11:09PM

So many things wrong.

You can't keep having no CBs, having to sacrifice balance in midfield.

You can't keep having Trent, one of your main sources of creativity, be utterly abysmal.

You can't keep having Mane, though he was our best forward player tonight, be so off form for a long stretch.

You can't keep having players not take responsibility and turn down shots, or snatch at shots. Even Salah turned an obvious one down tonight.

You can't keep having officials not do their jobs. It's not their fault we were bad, but sometimes you need referees to get decisions correct. And those two penalties weren't difficult.

The team has been virtually perfect for 2 and a half years. This is a rough patch. This is a new test for this team. Can they snap the fúck out of it?

brevity · 04-01-2021 11:09PM

As others have said, the Utd game could come at the right time.

Utd would love to end the home record Liverpool have - Liverpool must win it.

Some serious chats have to going on behind the scenes to try and fix the problems

dogbert27 · 04-01-2021 11:10PM

Should we switch to 4-2-3-1 to get the two young CBs in and Fab and Thiago in front of them?

Henderson-Firmino-Mane as the 3 and Salah up top

simongurnick · 04-01-2021 11:11PM

Ardent wrote: »

Because he's a very good manager and was put through the ringer early into his Saints career.

Personally couldn't give a toss. Every opposing manager is a competitor. They can enjoy the morale victories against another team.

Calvin · 04-01-2021 11:11PM

Ikozma wrote: »

Front 3 needs a shake up, teams, know how to nullify us at this stage, we are so easy to play against, City will be laughing all the way to the title now I'm afraid, we simply don't deserve it based on performances so far anyway, injuries haven't helped obviously

Jota was perfect for this. Put pressure on the front three and he was putting in crucial performances when called upon. City’s next 4 fixtures should be 12 points for them, so we’ve got a lot of catching up to do. We should be 6 clear, but lacklustre performances all around the pitch and we’re back behind again.

fyfe79 · 04-01-2021 11:13PM

dogbert27 wrote: »

Should we switch to 4-2-3-1 to get the two young CBs in and Fab and Thiago in front of them?

Henderson-Firmino-Mane as the 3 and Salah up top

Can't be worse than what we've seen the last few games! Though I'd have an experienced new January CB signing in, no matter what.

Muahahaha · 04-01-2021 11:14PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

With the schedule and lack of recovery time I don't think that style is sustainable anymore. Look at the running and pressing stats - the whole league is significantly down on previous years. It's why the once-outdated Mourinho method has returned in force.

Yeah that is the downside of heavy metal football, it can tire players out and cause injuries. But just feel we have to adjust something to compensate for having two midfielders playing at centre back and everything being so flat as a result. It took us 75 minutes just to get a single tame shot on target.

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

That short corner routine has to go.

The direct ones werent much use either, Soton mopped them up all evening. Without Matip and VVD we have no proper aerial threat in the box.

Ardent · 04-01-2021 11:14PM

simongurnick wrote: »

Personally couldn't give a toss. Every opposing manager is a competitor. They can enjoy the morale victories against another team.

It's ok, you don't need to start crying

MD1990 · 04-01-2021 11:15PM

https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1346215965990776840

incredible statistic.

We are trying to walk the ball in

dogbert27 · 04-01-2021 11:15PM

brevity wrote: »

As others have said, the Utd game could come at the right time.

Utd would love to end the home record Liverpool have - Liverpool must win it.

Some serious chats have to going on behind the scenes to try and fix the problems

I was expecting those serious chats to be happening after the Fulham game. Then the West Brom game. Then the Newcastle game.....

It looks a psychological problem in that they seem to be using this injury crisis as an excuse for poor performances

razorblunt · 04-01-2021 11:16PM

mada999 wrote: »

we usually do not get anything from him.... he like's the physical

He threw the card at Robertson for a nibble at Armstrong but told Milner to get up when Walcott cleaned him up. What can you do.

~Rebel~ · 04-01-2021 11:18PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Yeah that is the downside of heavy metal football, it can tire players out and cause injuries. But just feel we have to adjust something to compensate for having two midfielders playing at centre back and everything being so flat as a result

The direct ones werent much use either, Soton mopped them up all evening. Without Matip and VVD we have no proper aerial threat in the box.

Yeah, definitely. Huge challenge for Klopp to figure this one out. Whether it's with the chequebook in the transfer market, or on the training ground, we need a change from what's happening right now.

Liverpool strength for the past 2 years has been a rock solid platform at the back, and monstrous workrate from Fab, Hendo, and Gini in midfield to snuff out most of the opposition play, tire the opposition midfielders, and create space for the attackers. The first part of that is now gone, with the second part of it sacrificed to try to plug holes. We really miss that suffocating all encompassing presence in midfield that frustrates opposition players and chips away at their confidence and mentality and makes them wonder when the fck they're gonna catch a break. Instead you can see the gaps everywhere.

<edit> Carra talking about going 4-2-3-1 now, which is hard to argue with trying. Something a bit different. It worked well at the start of the season before last, when we were still bedding in Fabinho. Got us possession in the opposition half quicker with numbers, building from there instead of from 6.

Ardent · 04-01-2021 11:20PM

MD1990 wrote: »

We are trying to walk the ball in

That's not it at all. We are up against well organised, packed defenses.

We can't keep conceding soft goals and leaving ourselves a huge mountain to climb.

BillyHasMates · 04-01-2021 11:22PM

Lads, I'm not worried. Don't know where all the whinging and complaining is coming from. We are STILL top of the league despite the doomsayers talking as if the world is ending. Honestly think the last few years has spoiled too many. Some are just never happy. We just have to buy a CB in January, any CB, and we will coast to the title.

As for the match we were so unlucky. Officials gave them the goal and gave us nothing all game. Southampton also played their World Cup Final. Hasenhuttl clearly had them wound up and targeted this game to expend all of their energy. They will probably go and lose their next 2 or 3 games by 3+ goals. Short sighted from Hasenhuttl. Hope they go down. It just made his season.

We get a CB in and we will motor again to another title. City are in decline, Spurs won't win a title with Jose's negative tactics, Chelsea are tumbling down the table. Man Utd have one player - Fernandes. If he gets injured they will implode. Even if they beat us in two weeks they still won't win it. Sure it will keep Ole at the wheel longer which is only good for us. Right?

SlickRic · 04-01-2021 11:23PM

Us being shíte and not deserving anything and us deserving at least one penalty are not mutually exclusive statements.

Both can be true.

MD1990 · 04-01-2021 11:23PM

id start Milner RB against Man Utd.

Trent is way off form

Utopia Parkway · 04-01-2021 11:24PM

simongurnick wrote: »

Personally couldn't give a toss. Every opposing manager is a competitor. They can enjoy the morale victories against another team.

Exactly.

Ottoman_1000 · 04-01-2021 11:26PM

dogbert27 wrote: »

I was expecting those serious chats to be happening after the Fulham game. Then the West Brom game. Then the Newcastle game.....

It looks a psychological problem in that they seem to be using this injury crisis as an excuse for poor performances

its a combination of everything, Liverpool were getting caught out against teams that set deep a few seasons ago and Klopp went for broke last year with a high defensive line that allowed them to regain the ball quickly when an attack broke down. So for example, Mane or Salah could lose the ball trying to take on defenders time after time but they were almost guaranteed more opportunities until the opposition defenses tired and the goal chances came...now without the pace of VVD or Gomes that game plan is gone, the front 3 are getting fewer and fewer opportunities against retreating defenses so there right back where there were a few seasons ago.

yourdeadwright · 04-01-2021 11:26PM

BillyHasMates wrote: »

Lads, I'm not worried. Don't know where all the whinging and complaining is coming from. We are STILL top of the league despite the doomsayers talking as if the world is ending. Honestly think the last few years has spoiled too many. Some are just never happy. We just have to buy a CB in January, any CB, and we will coast to the title.

As for the match we were so unlucky. Officials gave them the goal and gave us nothing all game. Southampton also played their World Cup Final. Hasenhuttl clearly had them wound up and targeted this game to expend all of their energy. They will probably go and lose their next 2 or 3 games by 3+ goals. Short sighted from Hasenhuttl. Hope they go down. It just made his season.

We get a CB in and we will motor again to another title. City are in decline, Spurs won't win a title with Jose's negative tactics, Chelsea are tumbling down the table. Man Utd have one player - Fernandes. If he gets injured they will implode. Even if they beat us in two weeks they still won't win it. Sure it will keep Ole at the wheel longer which is only good for us. Right?

We got beat 7-2 by Villa, beat by Southampton and failed to beat Fulham, Westbrom, Brighton and Newcastle in the last month, We are not winning the title this season the quicker peopls are at peace with that the better,

Utopia Parkway · 04-01-2021 11:28PM

MD1990 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/1346215965990776840

incredible statistic.

We are trying to walk the ball in

It’s a ton of touches but we are having to take a ton of touches because we are facing packed defences. Especially as games drag on. Best way to avoid that is not to start games half asleep constantly and get some early goals to drag teams out.

Chesty08 · 04-01-2021 11:28PM

BillyHasMates wrote: »

Lads, I'm not worried. Don't know where all the whinging and complaining is coming from. We are STILL top of the league despite the doomsayers talking as if the world is ending. Honestly think the last few years has spoiled too many. Some are just never happy. We just have to buy a CB in January, any CB, and we will coast to the title.

As for the match we were so unlucky. Officials gave them the goal and gave us nothing all game. Southampton also played their World Cup Final. Hasenhuttl clearly had them wound up and targeted this game to expend all of their energy. They will probably go and lose their next 2 or 3 games by 3+ goals. Short sighted from Hasenhuttl. Hope they go down. It just made his season.

We get a CB in and we will motor again to another title. City are in decline, Spurs won't win a title with Jose's negative tactics, Chelsea are tumbling down the table. Man Utd have one player - Fernandes. If he gets injured they will implode. Even if they beat us in two weeks they still won't win it. Sure it will keep Ole at the wheel longer which is only good for us. Right?

City are not in decline.

They have 6 clean sheets in last 7 games.

Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

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