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General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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  • #8582
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    jayo26 wrote: »
    Thank you Steve excellent New Years present for us neutrals.

    Say what you want about missing defenders but Virjil wont fix that lethargic attack.

    If you watch Liverpool play with VVD and his excellent passing range, and then compare it to Philips, it's chalk and cheese.

    Liverpool build from the back and VVD can hit it long to switch to Salahs feet on the opposite wing or can play it quickly through the lines to midfield beating the press. Brilliant for breaking down teams. Philips hits is safe everytime. Short or backwards and let's the opposition reset

    Not saying it will solve all problems but VVD is missing in
    a lot more than one way.


  • #8583
    castletownman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,745 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


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    Agent Bruce. United legend


  • #8584
    Bruce Bald Sweeper
    Posts: 27,583 ✭✭✭✭ Bruce Bald Sweeper


    Nice result for Newcastle


  • #8585
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    thebaz wrote: »
    That is what seperates the Premiership from many leagues - expect the unexpcted .

    The premiership is actually the opposite situation compared to other european leagues. Liverpool, last year's winners, are still top of the league and will be even in united won their game in hand.

    Seire A - AC milan top. Last year's winner Juventus back 10 points back in 6th with one game in hand.

    La Liga - athletico top ahead of real by 2 pints with 2 games in hand.

    France - PSG third, but only a point behind.

    Germany - Bayern top by two points.


  • #8586
    ArielAtom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Great result for the league, keeping it interesting for us.


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  • #8587
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,674 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Nice result for Newcastle

    Welcome back,you were missed the last few weeks


  • #8588
    jayo26
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,779 ✭✭✭✭jayo26


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Nice result for Newcastle

    It was a result they may not of expected but then when you look at pools recent results against teams that sit back and defend well against the long ball in behind defenders it's not a freak result.

    Draw against Newcastle, Westbrom, Fulham and Brighton its giving these teams hope.


  • #8589
    the whole year inn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Augme wrote: »
    The premiership is actually the opposite situation compared to other european leagues. Liverpool, last year's winners, are still top of the league and will be even in united won their game in hand.

    Seire A - AC milan top. Last year's winner Juventus back 10 points back in 6th with one game in hand.

    La Liga - athletico top ahead of real by 2 pints with 2 games in hand.

    France - PSG third, but only a point behind.

    Germany - Bayern top by two points.

    Going through the previous seasons in those leagues have basically the same winner with just real and Barca swapping titles.


  • #8590
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,222 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Liverpool really struggling
    Missing Fabhino in Midfeild anf the injury to Jota has just made the front 3 stale

    why did they not create chances?

    its not cos fabinfo was in defence surely? liverpool's whole modus operandi is based on 2 flying full backs and 3 awesome forwards. all there today.

    biesla, and talk of burnout. is that a real thing?


  • #8591
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Good defending and a little luck but Newcastle deserved their point.

    How can you say Newcastle deserved their point when Liverpool missed 4 or 5 excellent chances. They deserved to get beat with the chances they gave up. It was more luck that got them that point.


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  • #8592
    Ordinary man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


    Liverpool have drawn with brighton, fulham, west brom and newcastle this season, on paper it should be an easy 12 points. Is it down to the wrong tactics or just the players not being up for the game?


  • #8593
    jayo26
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,779 ✭✭✭✭jayo26


    niallo27 wrote: »
    How can you say Newcastle deserved their point when Liverpool missed 4 or 5 excellent chances. They deserved to get beat with the chances they gave up. It was more luck that got them that point.

    Football aint about creating chances its about finishing them and stopping the other team from scoring. One team was crap at the finishing and the other team were excellent when it mattered at the defending.


  • #8594
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,018 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Augme wrote: »
    The premiership is actually the opposite situation compared to other european leagues. Liverpool, last year's winners, are still top of the league and will be even in united won their game in hand.

    Seire A - AC milan top. Last year's winner Juventus back 10 points back in 6th with one game in hand.

    La Liga - athletico top ahead of real by 2 pints with 2 games in hand.

    France - PSG third, but only a point behind.

    Germany - Bayern top by two points.

    seriously comparing it to the French league is a joke - PSG are light years ahead of all - The top 4 in the Premiership are seperated by 4 points - Liverpool are not going to walk it, as shown up this week.


  • #8595
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Ordinary man wrote: »
    Liverpool have drawn with brighton, fulham, west brom and newcastle this season, on paper it should be an easy 12 points. Is it down to the wrong tactics or just the players not being up for the game?

    Everybody is having the same issues, the intensity is gone with no crowds. Even utd looked lethargic for most of the game last night.


  • #8596
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    jayo26 wrote: »
    Football aint about creating chances its about finishing them and stopping the other team from scoring. One team was crap at the finishing and the other team were excellent when it mattered at the defending.

    That makes no sense, if they were so excellent at defending, how did they give up so many chances.


  • #8597
    El Gato De Negocios
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,328 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Ordinary man wrote: »
    Liverpool have drawn with brighton, fulham, west brom and newcastle this season, on paper it should be an easy 12 points. Is it down to the wrong tactics or just the players not being up for the game?

    Lack of motivation probably playing a part. They have been running at full pelt for three seasons and have won the two biggest trophies they can win, difficult to keep motivated when you've already achieved the maximum you can achieve. Will be interesting to see if klopp can turn it around, thats why fergie is the GOAT, year in, year out he was able to get players motivated, there was no resting on laurels and little thinking they could just turn up.


  • #8598
    Ordinary man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Everybody is having the same issues, the intensity is gone with no crowds. Even utd looked lethargic for most of the game last night.

    But liverpool were supposed to be one of the best teams ever after their league win last season. Now they're hiding behind lack of crowds and injuries excuses.


  • #8599
    Ordinary man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


    El Gato De Negocios wrote: »
    Lack of motivation probably playing a part. They have been running at full pelt for three seasons and have won the two biggest trophies they can win, difficult to keep motivated when you've already achieved the maximum you can achieve. Will be interesting to see if klopp can turn it around, thats why fergie is the GOAT, year in, year out he was able to get players motivated, there was no resting on laurels and little thinking they could just turn up.

    But united always spent to keep the squad fresh, not squirrelling away the money


  • #8600
    jayo26
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,779 ✭✭✭✭jayo26


    niallo27 wrote: »
    That makes no sense, if they were so excellent at defending, how did they give up so many chances.

    Because they achieved what they set out to achieve. chances mean nothing they sat back and allowed pool have the ball of course they gonna give up chances.. saves and blocks are the bread and butter of defending i would of thought that wasn't too complicated for most football fans?


  • #8601
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 429 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ordinary man wrote: »
    But liverpool were supposed to be one of the best teams ever after their league win last season. Now they're hiding behind lack of crowds and injuries excuses.

    Yes, everyone knows injuries don't effect teams.


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  • #8602
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,027 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Game week 16 Highlights
    Palace V Leicester


    Chelsea V Villa


    Everton V Man City - Postponed

    Brighton V Arsenal


    Burnley V Sheff Utd


    Southampton V West Ham


    WBA V Leeds


    Man Utd V Wolves


    Spurs V Fulham - Postponed

    Newcastle V Liverpool

    ******



  • #8603
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,027 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    (Games played)

    33 Liverpool (16)
    32
    31
    30 Man Utd (15)
    29 Leicester (16) Everton (15)
    28
    27
    26 Villa (14) Chelsea (16) Spurs (15) Man City (14) Southampton (16)
    25
    24
    23 West Ham (16) Leeds (16) .
    22
    21 Wolves (16)
    20 Arsenal (16)
    19 Palace (16) Newcastle (15)
    18
    17
    16 Burnley (15)
    15
    14
    13 Brighton (16)
    12
    11 Fulham (15)
    10
    9
    8 WBA (16)
    7
    6
    5
    4
    3
    2 Sheff Utd (16)


    No team can hit 100 points now

    ******



  • #8604
    ERG89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Ordinary man wrote: »
    But liverpool were supposed to be one of the best teams ever after their league win last season. Now they're hiding behind lack of crowds and injuries excuses.

    They are still top of the league though even though they have been playing below their levels in the last few months. Why haven't other teams taken advantage of it?


  • #8605
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    with the injuries
    You would have to say it is Man Utd's title if they keep players fit. Maybe City if they can get the attack together.

    Liverpool have to sign a CB.


  • #8606
    jayo26
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,779 ✭✭✭✭jayo26


    ERG89 wrote: »
    They are still top of the league though even though they have been playing below their levels in the last few months. Why haven't other teams taken advantage of it?

    Quality of league has been poor for last couple of years thats been obvious.


  • #8607
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,027 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    MD1990 wrote: »
    with the injuries
    You would have to say it is Man Utd's title if they keep players fit. Maybe City if they can get the attack together.

    Liverpool have to sign a CB.

    With the game in hand it is Untied league to throw away now

    ******



  • #8608
    fyfe79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    El Gato De Negocios wrote: »
    Lack of motivation probably playing a part. They have been running at full pelt for three seasons and have won the two biggest trophies they can win, difficult to keep motivated when you've already achieved the maximum you can achieve. Will be interesting to see if klopp can turn it around, thats why fergie is the GOAT, year in, year out he was able to get players motivated, there was no resting on laurels and little thinking they could just turn up.

    I think some are forgetting that Liverpool are top of the table.

    The January transfer window may help LFC a lot. Just as well it's almost January, eh?


  • #8609
    ERG89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    jayo26 wrote: »
    Quality of league has been poor for last couple of years thats been obvious.

    Wasn't there two all English European finals in 2019?

    Must have skipped being poor that season so.


  • #8610
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 429 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jayo26 wrote: »
    Quality of league has been poor for last couple of years thats been obvious.

    It seems to only be obvious to Manchester United fans unusually...


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  • #8611
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    jayo26 wrote: »
    Quality of league has been poor for last couple of years thats been obvious.

    Not sure two years ago champions league and Eufa Cup bothhad all English finals

    Standard of football world wide is not what it once was


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