Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

George Nkencho shooting *Mod warning Added to OP*

24567276

Comments

  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,030 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Daft comment.



    Daft comment.

    If you're blessed with common sense, yes. Alas, the Twitter army is gathering steadily, describing the deceased as "that poor boy" as if he had done nothing wrong at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,550 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I don't know why the Gardai didn't attempt a non lethal shot, ie, to his leg or something.

    What's this craic of leg shooting?

    This is not the movies.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,550 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    obi604 wrote: »
    Well he didn’t just have a knife, he was lunging said knife at guards like a maniac, if it made contact, it was most likely game over for a guard.

    Yes, reading reports it appears that this person was a menace right up to the time that Gardai opened fire.

    I will still wait for the report/investigation...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't know why the Gardai didn't attempt a non lethal shot, ie, to his leg or something. I'm a fierce supporter of BLM but this is not a case of a black man was shot for being black. This is a black man stabbed a civilian and then attempted to stab members of The Gardai. He was pepper sprayed and tased as well. The only question I have is to the killing of him. Black, White or Asian I don't think shooting someone dead is ever a good outcome

    Someone is hacking away with a knife at you and it's life or death and you've to make split second decisions, that's easier said than done. Also very possible and likely the attempted shot was non-lethal and it just went down that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Of course on twitter he is now a victim of some kind of injustice


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    Omackeral wrote: »


    Daft comment.

    Really? Look at Eric Cartman - doesn't even think it needs to be investigated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Of course on twitter he is now a victim of some kind of injustice

    That's just a really loud minority. The vast majority will forget about this. Luckily our media are generally less emotional than in the states. The facts will be reported and unless they change I don't think much will come of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Patiently waiting for the Gemma brigade to say he was murdered, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    .anon. wrote: »
    Really? Look at Eric Cartman - doesn't even think it needs to be investigated.

    it doesn't matter what eric thinks. this will be fully investigated. Based on the dublinlive.ie report it seems clear that the shooting was justified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Wondered how long it'd be before we witnessed our first race riots.

    Here they come.

    Pity Irish people have never been given a say on whether we were keen on buying into the failed policy of multiculturalism.


  • Advertisement
  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    .anon. wrote: »
    Really? Look at Eric Cartman - doesn't even think it needs to be investigated.

    I never brought Eric up. Your second post on the matter is to come on and talk about bigots having their minds up. Which posters said anything bigoted before your post?


  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Melina Creamy Self-destruction


    And to address the other questions about tasers and pepper spray -

    Again, you guys need to start realising the difference between a film and real life. Yeah sure enough criminal minds or something you see the taser comes out and the lads down foaming at the mouth and all the fbi and police are high fiving and celebrating another criminal off the streets, or pepper spray same idea images of your man rolling around clawing his eyes out.

    Thing is in real life this isn’t how it always goes down. If your man was off his head on coke for example a taser and pepper spray could amount to nothing but more aggressive behaviour, he had a deadly weapon, the Garda responded with a deadly weapon. He tried to stab a Garda he deserved to get shot, simple as that.

    George floyd was not resisting his arrest and his only capital crime was pleading for the cop to loosen the pressure on his neck and screaming and crying for his mama. He didn’t deserve to die. This clown allegedly stabbed a shop owner or manager and swung a knife at guards, if that’s what actually happened and the evidence and reports point to it without much doubt, then he absolutely deserved the bullet.

    Now, to address once more why the Garda didn’t aim for the leg or arm, that’s simple - when being trained to handle firearms you are specifically trained NEVER to shoot the limbs or head because the bullet can either miss OR completely pass through the target and possibly hit someone else rendering a suspect wounded (and even potentially still able to attack) and possibly someone else dead or wounded also.

    When they discharge their weapon, it’s to protect themselves and those around them, you’re job at that point is not to protect the criminal charging you with a knife. Shooting him in the arm and all the police piling in for the arrest is again, Hollywood crap, it’s not how real policing works.

    Think about how often you hear of someone being shot by gardai over here before you start accusing them of being too trigger happy or mad to kill folks just for the sake of it.

    The Garda who pulled the trigger is going to spend the rest of his life remembering what he’s done, he will carry the guilt of taking another life to his grave. You never get over it, you could kill 1000 criminals and they’ll still feel bad. Whatever he was he had a potential for a good life going forward if he chose to, however he made a conscious choice to attack gardai with a knife and is now dead.

    The same fcuking clowns who defend this lad would be lamenting the gardai if they had shot him in the limbs and he kept going and attacked another person before being subdued. Real easy to sit here and say how they should’ve handled it, any of ye would’ve píssed your bloody pants at the sight of someone charging you with a knife.




  • Yamanoto wrote: »
    Wondered how long it'd be before we witnessed our first race riots.

    Here they come.

    Pity Irish people have never been given a say on whether we were keen on buying into the failed policy of multiculturalism.

    Nothing is coming. We'll move on fairly quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I see the mental health excuses are been rolled out


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Samsonsmasher


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Someone is hacking away with a knife at you and it's life or death and you've to make split second decisions, that's easier said than done. Also very possible and likely the attempted shot was non-lethal na dit just went down that way.

    Police and military around the world all train to shoot into the "centre mass" - the chest and abdomen


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Patiently waiting for the Gemma brigade to say he was murdered, etc.

    Puts them in a bind really as the perp was a black youth and her lot aren't their biggest fans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Patiently waiting for the Gemma brigade to say he was murdered, etc.

    Would they? My money is on the floods of black criminals angle.
    They must feel quite confused right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Shouldn't have shot him dead ,no doubt we'll see demands for a full public enquiry as usual in theses cases ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,550 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Gatling wrote: »
    Shouldn't have shot him dead ,no doubt we'll see demands for a full public enquiry as usual in theses cases ,

    Are you saying that they shouldn't have shot him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Was it actually a black fella? I couldn't see from the video.


    From what I see from the video then the fella was swinging something at people who had guns pointed at him


    Literal Darwin award territory there. Maybe he was off his head or something. No winners out of it anyway


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gatling wrote: »
    Shouldn't have shot him dead ,no doubt we'll see demands for a full public enquiry as usual in theses cases ,

    they didn't. they shot him to stop the threat he presented. He died despite being brought to hospital. The only blame here is on the guy with the knife.


  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Melina Creamy Self-destruction


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Patiently waiting for the Gemma brigade to say he was murdered, etc.

    Won’t happen. They’re all racists. If it was anyone but a garda who shot him, frankly they’d celebrate it. Likelihood is they’ll simply ignore it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Patiently waiting for the Gemma brigade to say he was murdered, etc.

    It will be hard for the Gemma brigade to choose a side here tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Gatling wrote: »
    Shouldn't have shot him dead ,no doubt we'll see demands for a full public enquiry as usual in theses cases ,

    You should watch the video. Either he gets shot or a garda stabbed. Split second stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭1373


    Man wakes up and thinks, I’ll rob a shop ,stab someone, try stabbing a Garda . Sure all I’ll get is a slap on the wrist. Well surprise !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,550 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    they didn't. they shot him to stop the threat he presented. He died despite being brought to hospital. The only blame here is on the guy with the knife.

    Was thinking the same

    They shot to stop.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    Terrible sad event, anybody comparing this to Floyd event is just silly. Colour should not matter and didn't in this case. Somewhat similar to the incident where the guy that killed the young girl and was then shot in his car, think he had a knife too. Rip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Wondered how long it'd be before we witnessed our first race riots.

    Here they come.

    Pity Irish people have never been given a say on whether we were keen on buying into the failed policy of multiculturalism.

    Won't happen, the keening and whinging for the bould George was grand cos he was in the states, some knackbag trying to stab a Garda will make the virtue signallers a lot more reticient

    Maybe the Shinners will paint a mural for the knackbag. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,550 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    1373 wrote: »
    Man wakes up and thinks, I’ll rob a shop ,stab someone, try stabbing a Garda . Sure all I’ll get is a slap on the wrist. Well surprise !

    Well, had he not been killed, most likely a slap on the wrist he would have got...

    Our sentencing laws are disgusting...


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    Having seen the video I'd imagine the lad was on some amount of drugs. Gardai supposedly tasered him and it took near 5 shots to get him down.

    Bizarre incident. Just glad no Gardai were hurt, and I hope the shop keeper recovers.


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement