Tell us about your new improved government regulations compliant cycle part II

a_squirrelman · 29-12-2020 08:52PM

CapnHex wrote: »

I assume that is a textbook example of trolling. Use the road if you want unhindered cycling, not a shared use all abilities (and none) cycle track.

Sounds to me like the poster is just sharing about their cycle.

secman · 29-12-2020 08:53PM

I used that clontarf cycling path once and that was one time too many. Absolutely hated it , the least enjoyable cycle of 2020.

magicbastarder · 29-12-2020 09:00PM

if there are 5 year olds on the cycle path, you need to anticipate that and prepare to brake anyway. it's a shared public amenity and you shouldn't need to find yourself in a situation where you have to emergency brake for small children you can see ahead of you.

if you want to get up to a decent speed on a day when the path seems to have been congested, you should use the road instead.

magicbastarder · 29-12-2020 09:02PM

secman wrote: »

I used that clontarf cycling path once and that was one time too many. Absolutely hated it , the least enjoyable cycle of 2020.

it's grand when it's quiet. there's good visibility on it so anticipating what's ahead is fine. but i don't go that way if i expect it'll be busy.

Heat_Wave · 29-12-2020 09:17PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

if there are 5 year olds on the cycle path, you need to anticipate that and prepare to brake anyway.

The child was in the pedestrian lane with her parents. She suddenly steered into the cycling lane. I did not anticipate that happening. I appreciate that it’s a shared public amenity, but a cycling lane is a cycling lane, and there are clear markings to show that it’s a two-way system.

magicbastarder · 29-12-2020 09:19PM

Heat_Wave wrote: »

The child was in the pedestrian lane with her parents. She suddenly steered into the cycling lane. I did not anticipate that happening.

best to anticipate it in future so. small children are unpredictable.

29-12-2020 09:22PM

Heat_Wave wrote: »

The child was in the pedestrian lane with her parents. She suddenly steered into the cycling lane. I did not anticipate that happening. I appreciate that it’s a shared public amenity, but a cycling lane is a cycling lane, and there are clear markings to show that it’s a two-way system.

I'd avoid a space like that most of the time but particularly at times like Christmas and most weekends to be honest. If there are families and kids there, then you will have issues like you experienced most of the time. Even the most aware parents will not be able to control children doing erratic things. Best avoided if you are travelling at anything other than a leisurely pace.

CramCycle · 29-12-2020 10:57PM

Heat_Wave wrote: »

The child was in the pedestrian lane with her parents. She suddenly steered into the cycling lane. I did not anticipate that happening. I appreciate that it’s a shared public amenity, but a cycling lane is a cycling lane, and there are clear markings to show that it’s a two-way system.

Not having a dig, well I am, but if you seen a 5yo and didn't think they might do something unpredictable then you weren't reading the conditions. Around my house I move onto the road on my morning commute as I pass school kids, they fall onto the path, they drop their parents, it happens. Same as motorists who blame kids when they speed round an estate, it's an excuse.

I have been out there a few times, use the road all the time, not sure why anyone wanting to tip along at a decent clip would use the path.

positron · 29-12-2020 11:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Best avoided if you are travelling at anything other than a leisurely pace.

100% this. It seems to be more of a "leisure facility" than a cycling infrastructure in the sense of getting from A to B.

29-12-2020 11:14PM

Kids and dogs, last things I want to see when I'm cycling

rushfan · 29-12-2020 11:16PM

Out at 1.30 today, got in a couple of laps of the Ballyboughal area, bit chilly even though the Garmin said 6c. Had a bit of a wobble coming around a bend leading into Ballyboughal, not sure if it was entirely due to a crosswind or the amount of crap on the road but I very nearly went over. Temps showing a max of 1c tomorrow so I might wimp out.

Tell me how · 29-12-2020 11:23PM

rushfan wrote: »

Out at 1.30 today, got in a couple of laps of the Ballyboughal area, bit chilly even though the Garmin said 6c. Had a bit of a wobble coming around a bend leading into Ballyboughal, not sure if it was entirely due to a crosswind or the amount of crap on the road but I very nearly went over. Temps showing a max of 1c tomorrow so I might wimp out.

I'm living in North East US and pay very close attention to the expected temperature. Was out in minus 1 at the weekend and was probably a couple degrees colder with wind chill. My biggest concern with such temperatures, is not so much riding in them, as you'll stay warm as long as you are mostly dry but if you have a breakdown then being stopped for a while and replacing a tube or whatever in these temps get in to dangerous territory quite quickly.

In fairness, weather predictions for wind, temp and rain have become excellent in recent years. Can set your watch by the google prediction of rain in this region. Maybe not at home in Ireland given how it is so changeable.

07Lapierre · 29-12-2020 11:40PM

Tell me how wrote: »

I'm living in North East US and pay very close attention to the expected temperature. Was out in minus 1 at the weekend and was probably a couple degrees colder with wind chill. My biggest concern with such temperatures, is not so much riding in them, as you'll stay warm as long as you are mostly dry but if you have a breakdown then being stopped for a while and replacing a tube or whatever in these temps get in to dangerous territory quite quickly.

In fairness, weather predictions for wind, temp and rain have become excellent in recent years. Can set your watch by the google prediction of rain in this region. Maybe not at home in Ireland given how it is so changeable.

That's a very good point! I've seen quite a few people out cycling recently wearing shorts! If you ask these guys I'm sure they'll tell you they don't "feel the cold" while cycling, but they aren't taking into account how cold they'll get if they have to stop to replace a tube etc.

On a recent club spin a youth member came along and he wasn't wearing leg warmers. By the end of the spin he realised why the rest of us were wearing bib tights, thermal jackets, neck buffs and gloves. The poor lad was freezing and needed a hot chocolate at the coffee shop to warm himslf up!

29-12-2020 11:58PM

They mentioned it on the commentary on the CX racing the other day and I remember it well when last year Eli Iserbyt stopped mid race and was lifted over the barrier and given the jacket by spectators. Then off to the hospital for hypothermia.

My own very mild experience was this time 4 or 5 years ago now I think, I was out early on a cold morning poorly clothed and the Gardai had closed a road after a crash and I stopped to be nosy and stood gum flapping with them for 15-20 minutes. Ended up in the back of the squad car to warm up

Seth Brundle · 30-12-2020 11:16AM

In relation to kids on the cycle path, etc...
https://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/cyclist-charged-assault-girl-christmas-incident-blows-up-video/

CramCycle · 30-12-2020 11:31AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Kids and dogs, last things I want to see when I'm cycling

Dog scared the sh1t out of me as I went around the back way to Kilmacanogue, he was completly silent until I was level with the Garden and he let out one sharp bark, fairly woke me up,

07Lapierre wrote: »

That's a very good point! I've seen quite a few people out cycling recently wearing shorts! If you ask these guys I'm sure they'll tell you they don't "feel the cold" while cycling, but they aren't taking into account how cold they'll get if they have to stop to replace a tube etc.

On a recent club spin a youth member came along and he wasn't wearing leg warmers. By the end of the spin he realised why the rest of us were wearing bib tights, thermal jackets, neck buffs and gloves. The poor lad was freezing and needed a hot chocolate at the coffee shop to warm himself up!

This year was the year I had to finally give in and accept that its just not acceptable to go out like that, since I lost the layers of insulation I simply can't. Had to have bib tights, thermal jersey, winter jacket, winter gloves , winter shoe covers, 2 pairs of socks, a buff round my neck and another round my head under my helmet. Had to take the two buffs off when I started climbing but that was it, the rest were necessary. Seen a good few people out yesterday in shorts and two in short sleeved jerseys around Stepaside. Not the year to be getting a cough or a chill.

Seth Brundle wrote: »

In relation to kids on the cycle path, etc...
https://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/cyclist-charged-assault-girl-christmas-incident-blows-up-video/

Yeah, on the slow down, he looks right at the kid before jamming his knee out, he will be, quite rightly, strung up (metaphorically) for that one.

cletus · 30-12-2020 11:32AM

Just about to post the same. He looks at her then pushes her with his knee. Asshole

plodder · 30-12-2020 12:56PM

07Lapierre wrote: »

That's a very good point! I've seen quite a few people out cycling recently wearing shorts! If you ask these guys I'm sure they'll tell you they don't "feel the cold" while cycling, but they aren't taking into account how cold they'll get if they have to stop to replace a tube etc.

On a recent club spin a youth member came along and he wasn't wearing leg warmers. By the end of the spin he realised why the rest of us were wearing bib tights, thermal jackets, neck buffs and gloves. The poor lad was freezing and needed a hot chocolate at the coffee shop to warm himslf up!

I was out in shorts yesterday and in fact two guys passing, commented on it. As I said to them, my legs don't feel the cold. As it happened, it was the first time I wore a hat under the helmet and I had a new neck buff, so I felt quite cosy. Breakdowns are a concern all right, but I still find my upper body gets cold faster than my legs.

secman · 30-12-2020 03:23PM

Did a static spin today 1 hr 30 min and using my last week s avg of 25.8 kph gives me 38km .
Had only 1 dry winter kit available and kept it for tomorrow

magicbastarder · 30-12-2020 03:48PM

last spin of the year, out to howth and back. nice day for it (tomorrow looks horrendous).

30-12-2020 04:31PM

45k with 700 climbing at 27kph at lunchtime. Much nicer today after the rain cleared up. I won't be getting fat this Christmas anyway!

Seth Brundle · 30-12-2020 04:39PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

last spin of the year, out to howth and back. nice day for it (tomorrow looks horrendous).

You can also expect to be limited to 5km tomorrow going by the news.

Mercian Pro · 30-12-2020 10:09PM

Doing a few jobs on the bike at lunchtime when I realised that there would probably be no club spin permitted tomorrow (or anytime soon) and the forecast was miserable anyway.
After layering up well I headed west to St Catherine's Park via Castleknock and Porterstown before skirting the Kildare border on Tubber Lane en route to Hazelhatch. I reckoned it was too late to head for Athgoe or Brittas so turned over to Peamount and Grange Castle and then into Griffeen Valley Park to get back to Lucan. Back towards home along the Strawberry Beds with a lap of the Park to remind me how great it was to have it within my 5k circle in the Spring and Autumn. I expect I'll be seeing a lot of it over the remaining Winter months too.

07Lapierre · 30-12-2020 11:08PM

CramCycle wrote: »

This year was the year I had to finally give in and accept that its just not acceptable to go out like that, since I lost the layers of insulation I simply can't. Had to have bib tights, thermal jersey, winter jacket, winter gloves , winter shoe covers, 2 pairs of socks, a buff round my neck and another round my head under my helmet. Had to take the two buffs off when I started climbing but that was it, the rest were necessary. Seen a good few people out yesterday in shorts and two in short sleeved jerseys around Stepaside. Not the year to be getting a cough or a chill.

I did 130k today. The temperature all day never went above 2 degrees. I left the house at 10am and my Garmin was telling me the temperature was -1 (wind chill).

I was wearing Fizik R5 artic boots, spatzs roadman neopene knee high overshoes, bib tights, long sleeve base layer, winter jacket, neck buff, Prendras winter hat and winter gloves. At no time did I feel too warm! At one point,my hands and feet were very cold, but as I cycled through Dublin City Centre, the constant stopping at lights meant I was constantly unclipping from the pedals. This helped warm my feet, but it also contributed to lowering my core temperature and resulted in my hands getting very cold. Once I left the city centre, I was able to push on,which raised my core temperature and I started warming up again. I also stopped after 70k and had a large hot coffee and some food. After that I was fine.

I'm six foot tall and weigh 76kg, so I don't have a lot of excess weight/insulation, which probably doesn't help either.

07Lapierre · 30-12-2020 11:11PM

plodder wrote: »

I was out in shorts yesterday and in fact two guys passing, commented on it. As I said to them, my legs don't feel the cold. As it happened, it was the first time I wore a hat under the helmet and I had a new neck buff, so I felt quite cosy. Breakdowns are a concern all right, but I still find my upper body gets cold faster than my legs.

Fair enough...I guess we're all different. I find keeping my legs warm helps keep my feet warm. If I was to wear shorts at this time of year, my feet would be frozen!

Mercian Pro · 31-12-2020 12:31AM

07Lapierre wrote: »

I was wearing Fizik R5 artic boots, spatzs roadman neopene knee high overshoes, bib tights, long sleeve base layer, winter jacket, neck buff, Prendras winter hat and winter gloves.

I'm six foot tall and weigh 76kg, so I don't have a lot of excess weight/insulation, which probably doesn't help either.

I probably have even less natural insulation but have been managing okay so far this winter even though I've had bad hands and feet issues in the past. When it's down around zero or less, I might go with a second base layer but am using a second jersey, arm warmers and a base layer under a Mistral jacket as well as Mistral bib tights on the last few rides. I wear marino socks under Northwave Arctic boots with neoprene overshoes and marino liners under Roeckl gloves with chemical hardwarmers as back up if it gets seriously cold or wet. Up top I've been using a Grip Grab balaclava but bring a neck buff to use instead if it if it warms up.

Keeping moving is probably just as important as the right gear and it's unfortunate that hedge cutting and consequential punctures seem to coincide with the coldest weather.

wheelo01 · 31-12-2020 12:33AM

Out for a chilly 40km early afternoon, feckin hell it was cold.
Drimnagh, Tallaght, Lucan, Palmerstown, obligatory lap of the pheonivx park and home again.
Is it just me, or does everyone's pace drop in the cold?

https://strava.app.link/fHgW2b8nEcb

31-12-2020 12:38AM

07Lapierre wrote: »

I'm six foot tall and weigh 76kg, so I don't have a lot of excess weight/insulation, which probably doesn't help either.

I've been busy this evening adding some insulation, a chipper, a split section box with herself and 2 wines and a beer should give me the additional insulation I need for the cold days ahead :pac:

07Lapierre · 31-12-2020 12:40AM

Everyone's pace drops in winter. Your wearing more clothes, the air is colder/more dense and lots of people are on their winter bike,which is usually heavier,due to mudguards,lights etc.

wheelo01 · 31-12-2020 12:43AM

Or I just get fatter over Christmas!!

Same bike/equipment- I'm going with your denser air theory though

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