General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

26-12-2020 04:21PM

Does any ref in the Premier League watch matches and realise that that Grealish pushing the ball past a player, running into that player and throwing himself to the ground happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again, every game, every week, every season. Nothing has changed in his career. It's not a free, it certainly isn't a booking, but as long as he keeps benefiting from it, he will do it.

Tipsy McSwagger · 26-12-2020 04:25PM

kowloonkev wrote: »

Can't help but notice that Liverpool have been given a really great schedule over the Christmas period. They had more than a week off before they play tomorrow, then their third game is not until Monday week. 3 games (incl. 2 gimmes) in 9 days.

United play 3 games in 7 days. Tottenham same I think. Most are 3 in 8 days.

PL don't even want to keep it close.

Rent free

kowloonkev · 26-12-2020 04:31PM

Fulham got away with one there. Penalty imo

chicorytip · 26-12-2020 04:34PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Does any ref in the Premier League watch matches and realise that that Grealish pushing the ball past a player, running into that player and throwing himself to the ground happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again, every game, every week, every season. Nothing has changed in his career. It's not a free, it certainly isn't a booking, but as long as he keeps benefiting from it, he will do it.

It ought to be a booking offence because it's so blatant. I thought simulation, as they call it, was punishable by yellow card. You see similar types of incidents numerous times in every game, whether it be players attempting to "engineer" fouls against them or just plain diving. Grealish is by no means the worst offender in that regard.

JPA · 26-12-2020 04:37PM

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Relaxed or lazy? Seems to always be in the wrong position, has athletic ability that can sometimes get him out of trouble, but seems to have a poor understanding of the game. Just a poor player IMHO.

Interesting contest, if only to see the battle between Grealish and Zaha to see who can 'win' more frees.

He's absolutely not a poor player, that is simply wrong. He is probably over praised, he's a good defender who will give you a dodgy moment or 2 a game.

JPA · 26-12-2020 04:42PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Does any ref in the Premier League watch matches and realise that that Grealish pushing the ball past a player, running into that player and throwing himself to the ground happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again, every game, every week, every season. Nothing has changed in his career. It's not a free, it certainly isn't a booking, but as long as he keeps benefiting from it, he will do it.

Those players should get out of his way.

theoneeyedman · 26-12-2020 04:45PM

JPA wrote: »

He's absolutely not a poor player, that is simply wrong. He is probably over praised, he's a good defender who will give you a dodgy moment or 2 a game.

Poor may be harsh, OK, but for an EPL player he's very ordinary. Error prone really, makes poor decisions, and overpraised to use your term, or at times Hyped in the media.

Imagine him playing a top side in a knock out game in an international competition, or in say a Champions league quarter final, completely out of his depth.

26-12-2020 05:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Does any ref in the Premier League watch matches and realise that that Grealish pushing the ball past a player, running into that player and throwing himself to the ground happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again, every game, every week, every season. Nothing has changed in his career. It's not a free, it certainly isn't a booking, but as long as he keeps benefiting from it, he will do it.

Its the same with Kane, every single time Kane holds the ball up he falls over and gets a free kick with minimal contact at best, yet refs continue to fall for it. Its mental to watch

retalivity · 26-12-2020 05:14PM

That Arsenal team....jesus.
Chelsea could rip them apart today.

26-12-2020 05:24PM

eigrod wrote: »

What are you on about? By being in fewer competitions, of course you’re going to get kinder fixtures - that’s the very point I made and something like 13 PL clubs weren’t in the League Cup this week so got a break. It was the complete opposite for Liverpool last year when they were in the World Club Championship & League Cup.

Exactly. Klopp doesn't seem to think like that though as he thinks teams in some competitions should be given a leg up by the TV companies. Could have been Liverpool early kickoff today after their break, with United getting an extra day after Wednesday, instead United have that, along with another 2 games in the next 6 days.

As I said, whingeing about fixtures is silly but it does seem strange that the manager who did the most mouthing in the media and arguments with broadcasters on live TV about the time when fixtures were being selected has come out with the TV stations picking the best schedule for his team.

Potential Underachiever · 26-12-2020 05:26PM

Liam O wrote: »

Exactly. Klopp doesn't seem to think like that though as he thinks teams in some competitions should be given a leg up by the TV companies. Could have been Liverpool early kickoff today after their break, with United getting an extra day after Wednesday, instead United have that, along with another 2 games in the next 6 days.

As I said, whingeing about fixtures is silly but it does seem strange that the manager who did the most mouthing in the media and arguments with broadcasters on live TV about the time when fixtures were being selected has come out with the TV stations picking the best schedule for his team.

Whingeing, mouthing etc etc... it's good to vent after a disappointing result isn't it.

.G. · 26-12-2020 05:31PM

Liverpool have defo done well out of the Christmas scheduling there's no denying that but they've been shafted at other times too. All managers moan, Lampard was at it about their schedule compared to ours, Uniteds and Spurs and he has a point.

United have a full extra day over Wolves before they play them next too but then Villa get that benefit before they play United. Liverpool will suffer again at some point.

The only reason it happens is cos maximum exposure of the game in TV is what the money men want. All teams could be playing on the same day with proper scheduling but that's never been in the interests of those money men. Spread the games out so there's games on TV all day every day.

The managers who moan are moaning at the wrong people. The decisions are made by their own club chairmen when the TV deals are done.

citytillidie · 26-12-2020 05:31PM

On the Christmas schedule some teams win and some lose i remember one season where Liverpool had to play 2 games in less than 48 hours and that was before all games were on tv. It is the hazard now that all games are on tv and well its good to see they are now at least having games kick off at the same time instead of 10 different kick off times.

The White Wolf · 26-12-2020 05:54PM

plibige wrote: »

Mad to think Vardy is 34 next month. Just goes to show the improvements in sports science and training methods these days

I can only commend Vardy for his level of performance but he hasn't had to play that many games in the top flight relatively speaking.

That's a testament to him because he took the smartest decision of his life by ignoring offers late in his career and staying with Leicester on very good money.

Agent Coulson · 26-12-2020 05:57PM

Lee Dixon on NBC saying as nicely as he can that the Arsenal players a just sh1t and can't play the style of football Arteta wants.

26-12-2020 05:58PM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Whingeing, mouthing etc etc... it's good to vent after a disappointing result isn't it.

I've no idea what this has to do with what I posted but I suppose it's par for the course.

The White Feather · 26-12-2020 06:00PM

What betting price is Arteta for the sack? It may happen if they get beaten today!!

26-12-2020 06:01PM

What in the world is Reece James haircut supposed to be?

The White Feather · 26-12-2020 06:03PM

AdamD wrote: »

What in the world is Reece James haircut supposed to be?

Is Roy Keane in the studio? He liked McTominays hair cut so we need his opinion on Reece James one!

Penalty as I type!!

Agent Coulson · 26-12-2020 06:04PM

Dive and a yellow card for me.

Penalty given and Arsenal score.

Quazzie · 26-12-2020 06:06PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Dive and a yellow card for me.

Contact at the left knee. Personally I think it wasn't enough for the foul, but VAR obviously felt the minimal contact was enough.

ERG89 · 26-12-2020 06:06PM

Lacazette has been moving around the pitch like a rusty ol tractor lately but he puts that away. Chelsea for a team playing a totally out of form Arsenal have been very poor.

26-12-2020 06:07PM

Was Neville as strong about United's various incredibly soft pens?

retalivity · 26-12-2020 06:07PM

"Masterful by Tierney"

FFS, if Lacazette or Werner did it, there's be a different response

Quazzie · 26-12-2020 06:08PM

AdamD wrote: »

Was Neville as strong about United's various incredibly soft pens?

T'was nice of him to point out that it was Pires who invented soft penalties :rolleyes:

The White Feather · 26-12-2020 06:14PM

Cracking Free Kick!

ctrl-alt-delete · 26-12-2020 06:16PM

Xhaka, lacca, cracka,

Can think of another rhyming word for you Mr. Tyler

Agent Coulson · 26-12-2020 06:20PM

Lampard will be looking for another 200m to spent in January to stay in the race for top 4.

ERG89 · 26-12-2020 06:22PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Lampard will be looking for another 200m to spent in January to stay in the race for top 4.

Haaland to play on the right wing??

Shanotheslayer · 26-12-2020 06:43PM

Don't fck this up Everton Please.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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