Only Fools & Horses

TCDStudent1 · 19-12-2020 11:58pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah I thought it wasn’t funny and was waaaaaayyyyyyy too long.

I don’t begrudge them having the ambition to do something different, but it was their worst show.

I believe the Miami episodes were David Jason's favourite.

For me, the fishing trip remains my favourite OFAH episode.

ancapailldorcha · 20-12-2020 12:13am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I believe the Miami episodes were David Jason's favourite.

For me, the fishing trip remains my favourite OFAH episode.

It's the Jolly Boys Outing for me. It's just fantastic.

B.A._Baracus · 20-12-2020 5:02am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I believe the Miami episodes were David Jason's favourite.

For me, the fishing trip remains my favourite OFAH episode.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the reason why David feels it's his best episode is because he got to play a different character as well as filming in Miami. Which is all fair from a personal aspect but from a fan aspect it really is horrible set of two episodes. But to be fair to only fools it's really hard to list bad episodes except them.

**Edit**
Forgot about the last episodes in 2001. Horrible too.

But yeah the 'friday the 14th' episode is a classic. It's up there.

Sultan of Bling · 20-12-2020 10:16am

B.A._Baracus wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the reason why David feels it's his best episode is because he got to play a different character as well as filming in Miami. Which is all fair from a personal aspect but from a fan aspect it really is horrible set of two episodes. But to be fair to only fools it's really hard to list bad episodes except them.

I thought the first part was funny myself especially the scene with del, raquel and Albert when del is attempting to get raquel's blessing to go to Miami with rodney.

ancapailldorcha · 20-12-2020 10:41am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the reason why David feels it's his best episode is because he got to play a different character as well as filming in Miami. Which is all fair from a personal aspect but from a fan aspect it really is horrible set of two episodes. But to be fair to only fools it's really hard to list bad episodes except them.

**Edit**
Forgot about the last episodes in 2001. Horrible too.

But yeah the 'friday the 14th' episode is a classic. It's up there.

It's not unwatchable but it'd be the "Jumping the shark" moment for me if it weren't two one-off episodes that are never referenced again in the series.

TCDStudent1 · 20-12-2020 9:47pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the reason why David feels it's his best episode is because he got to play a different character as well as filming in Miami. Which is all fair from a personal aspect but from a fan aspect it really is horrible set of two episodes. But to be fair to only fools it's really hard to list bad episodes except them.

**Edit**
Forgot about the last episodes in 2001. Horrible too.

But yeah the 'friday the 14th' episode is a classic. It's up there.

I don't think they should have made them as it ended perfectly with the 1996 trilogy. However, I enjoyed the 'Gary' storyline with Boyce as the bodyguard!

My 2nd favourite episode (just behind Friday the 14th) is the one where Triggs grandmother dies. Grandad's conversation with Triggs Grandfather is a brilliant scene.

George White · 21-12-2020 1:34pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

It's the Jolly Boys Outing for me. It's just fantastic.

PS we just lost Rosalind Knight, who played Mrs. Cresswell in that episode, the scary landlady at the Villa Bella.

B.A._Baracus · 27-02-2021 8:42pm

Here's one to twist your noodle.

Uncle Albert actor Buster Merryfield was 65 when he joined the show in 1985.
Grandad actor Leonard Pearse was 66 when he started the show in 1981.

David Jason was 63 in the final episode of Only Fools in 2003. He was as old as Albert and Grandad.

0ph0rce0 · 27-02-2021 8:44pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

It's the Jolly Boys Outing for me. It's just fantastic.

It's on now :pac:

doublejobbing 2 · 28-02-2021 11:25pm

JoeA3 wrote: »

Yeah they definitely changed his character over the seasons. Early on he was a bit of a shady petty thief, a little dim, but that wasn’t played upon as much in early seasons. Rodney was actually a bit afraid of him - “Why do they call him Trigger, does he carry a gun?”

In later seasons the shady petty crime aspect of his character was forgotten about and he was just a simpleton road sweeper.

A great character though

There's subtle differences in season one when it was findng its feet that they later improve/ get rid of. Del actually uses correct French, they then realised it would be funnier if he was clueless about it :pac:

Itssoeasy · 19-09-2021 2:15pm

Sad news in the only fools and horses world. It’s been announced that John Challis aka Boycie has died after a battle with cancer at the age of 79. Yes, Del Boy and Rodney and grandad/uncle Albert were the main part of the show, but to me Boycie was up there as one the best characters on the show.

PTH2009 · 19-09-2021 2:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117910985#Comment_117910985

Yeah another one gone, very sad RIP

He was due to do a tour of Ireland the last few years which was postponed due to covid. He done one only a few weeks ago in the UK and was cut short as he was so sick

Boycie was a great character, never watched 'green green grass' but heard it had its moments

gormdubhgorm · 19-09-2021 2:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058052716/only-fools-horses

I think many of the less 'self-conscious' will. The show was written in a 'natural' way slagging back and forth. No nastiness. More laughing at the characters ignorance (Del, Boyce, Rodney, Trigger etc).

O'Sullivan was from an Irish background his auld fella from Cork. It is no coincidence that slagging and mickey taking is a key component of the show. I have watched them all countless times at this stage and still laugh at them. The timing is superb well acted and written.

Autosport · 19-09-2021 2:38pm

Very sad to hear this, I’ve been watching Yhe green green grass on Gold lately and he would always make you laugh 🥰 May he Rest in Peace

19-09-2021 2:44pm

Sad news. RIP Boycie

gormdubhgorm · 19-09-2021 2:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117911102#Comment_117911102

All I can think of is the sceance episode- where the spirit is looking for ‘Aubrey’ confusion all round.

https://youtu.be/tH1rskoFfyM

Even in death those actors still make me laugh!

B.A._Baracus · 19-09-2021 3:18pm

It's sad to think that alot of the cast have died by now.

Granddad, Uncle Albert, Mike, Trigger, Sid, the creator John Sullivan and now Boycie.

I guess that's just the way it goes as the show started 40 years ago.

Riddle101 · 19-09-2021 5:09pm

Rest in Peace John Challis.

This is it · 19-09-2021 8:38pm

RIP Boycie.

El_Duderino 09 · 20-09-2021 9:49am

Sad news about John Challis.

The OFAH prequel Rock and chips us on UK TV gold attention moment. It only seems to have episodes 2 and 3 airing and I can't see episode 1.

Watched episode 2 last night and it was interesting. Different style to OFAH and much more focus on the parents and Freddie the frog's relationship with the lads mam.

UsBus · 20-09-2021 10:01am

Not sure if people remember this one. Early episode with Del ordering drinks with Rodney from the barmaid Joyce.

When she's goes to get their drinks, del says 'I like old Joyce, I mean fair enough, she's a bit of an old dog, but you always know where you stand with them...!!!! ' Another one for the PC brigade, can't stick it to them hard enough..))))))

ancapailldorcha · 20-09-2021 10:04am

Do we really have to endure the whole "PC gone mad" sh*te again?

Apparently, Only Fools is massive in certain eastern European countries. Challis did a documentary called Boycie in Belgrade. It's on Prime apparently.

El_Duderino 09 · 20-09-2021 11:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117914015#Comment_117914015

Yes. Yes we alway have to go through the same boring few posts by posters who are cross about the fact that times change, banging on about how "you wouldn't get away with that now, grumble grumble, PC brigade grumble grumble".

Uncle Albert calling reggae "monkey music" in To Hull and Back was a joke of its time. It wouldn't make sense to write the same joke 40 years later. UsBus, you can use the term "monkey music" to stick it to the PC brigade if you want.

ancapailldorcha · 20-09-2021 11:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117914412#Comment_117914412

Are you suggesting that somehow a comedy from decades ago in different times with much less technology wouldn't be made in precisely in the same manner were in instead to be made today? Shocking!

El_Duderino 09 · 20-09-2021 11:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117914436#Comment_117914436

Mad concept isn't it? I'll give you an even madder concept: art is relevant to the time in which its made and while some aspects are timeless and other aspects become outdated. Wild.

ancapailldorcha · 20-09-2021 11:42am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117914454#Comment_117914454

Mad, like. Does irk me that the BBC have put more effort into censoring the jokes about Jimmy Savile than actually stopping him when he was active.

NewbridgeIR · 30-01-2022 11:48pm

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. Just finished watching the Blu Ray set of the five 1980s specials - they look great (The Jolly Boys Outing in HD!) and there's both versions of A Royal Flush. Hope the remainder follows.

Minimal edits too

Riddle101 · 31-01-2022 8:16am

I just read that the actor who played Mickey Pearce, Patrick Murray, has lung cancer now and the outlook doesn't look good for him.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/only-fools-horses-mickey-star-26073951

B.A._Baracus · 31-01-2022 11:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118557188#Comment_118557188

That's interesting. I just checked Now TV and it appears they show the 58 minute version of A Royal Flush. Now TV shows the same versions as Gold channel. Makes me think when was the last time I seen the 76 minute version as I haven't seen the episode in years as it is and probably would have been on Gold.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118557818#Comment_118557818

Sad alright. The show is beloved by many people but the sad aspect now is it started 41 years ago. Patrick Murrary joined as Mickey Pearce aged 27 in 1983. Him, Rodney, Jez all young men. Even Del Boy was in his prime as David Jason was only 41 starting out. Same age as Boycie actor John Callis who died last year. Trigger - Roger Lloyd Pack, was only 37 in 1981 who also sadly died aged 69 in 2014.

Beloved characters and actors but now the realities of getting old showing its ugly head.

swimming in a sea · 31-01-2022 1:18pm

Loved the show, the quality did tale off in the last few series but maybe that was because it had run its course by then.

My favourite scene was Del's sales patter to the Aussie bloke buying the old Cortina with the dodgy brakes.

ancapailldorcha · 31-01-2022 1:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118559067#Comment_118559067

Same guy played Jumbo Mills.

B.A._Baracus · 31-01-2022 1:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118559067#Comment_118559067

That was a good bit alright. Wasn't the Aussie actor the same who later played the character of Jumbo Mills, right?

Edit. Beaten to it..

silliussoddius · 31-01-2022 7:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118559067#Comment_118559067

I'm not going to be swindled by some Cockney villain.

Well if weren't for some Cockney villain, you wouldn't be here.

NewbridgeIR · 31-01-2022 7:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118558449#Comment_118558449

The 58 minute version of A Royal Flush was created by John Sullivan in 2004 so every DVD set and TV broadcast of it seems to be that one. The only exception was the magazine partwork DVD which had the uncut version.

I have the complete run on VHS (purchased mid-90s) and it's uncut on that. Del is a bit OTT and unpleasant in it alright. No laugh track makes it a rather uncomfortable watch but still hilarious in parts.

Strumms · 31-01-2022 7:31pm

An underrated one is the special.. To Hull And Back…..I might rewatch later I haven’t seen it in about 10 years..

swimming in a sea · 01-02-2022 12:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561342#Comment_118561342

I think i saw that once on youtube, much more in the opera scene with Del getting ice cream and liquorice allsorts

swimming in a sea · 01-02-2022 1:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561431#Comment_118561431

Good episode but anytime i see it I'm cringing at the chase scene in Amsterdam, it's definitely Amsterdam so maybe on a budget they didn't have much time to get right, but you see the cops barley jogging in pursuit.

Only Fools and Horses - Amsterdam police chase - YouTube

El_Duderino 09 · 01-02-2022 2:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118564647#Comment_118564647

I'd be curious to know if the unedited versions of thsy episode still has the reference to reggae music as "monkey music". It's at the very start of the episode uncle Albert is talking to an aul wan about a WW2 movien on TV and he says I can't think with all that monkey music and glares over at the black lads standing round the juke box.

It's a real little time capsule of a show rhst was progressive for it's day, but using a term thst become a major slur. Actually, using monkey as an insult for black people has fallen in and then out of fashion since then.

Interesting to know of it made it through the unedited version.

NewbridgeIR · 01-02-2022 7:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118565069#Comment_118565069

I am pleased to advise that To Hull & Back is fully uncut on the 80s Specials BD release so Uncle Albert's comment is intact at about 4 mins and 37 secs in. Thankfully edits for inappropriate language are rare on home media releases although they are routinely trimmed for television broadcasts.

Jimmy Savile is mentioned a couple of times in Only Fools And Horses. Hole In One episode (S4, E3) - Del said Uncle Albert was the Jimmy Savile of Peckham due to his charity work. He’s also the punchline of a gag in Sickness And Wealth (S6, E5) - during the séance. I wonder how these will be handled if and when they get round to releasing the regular episodes on BD.

Montage of Feck · 01-02-2022 7:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/112495049#Comment_112495049

As I remember it featured Simply Reds "Holding back the Years" as Del boy is left alone.

Harryd225 · 01-02-2022 7:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058052716/only-fools-horses

You won't see a show like fools and horses again, what constitutes comedy these days is any joke relating to sex or over the top rubbish.

waynescales1 · 01-02-2022 7:51pm

"I think we're on a winner here Trig, alright, play it nice and cool son, nice and cool y'know what I mean?"

Harryd225 · 01-02-2022 8:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561342#Comment_118561342

There's an uncut version? How much different is it to the original? Are those tapes for sale by any chance lol

NewbridgeIR · 02-02-2022 12:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118567188#Comment_118567188

Original version is 76 minutes and no laugh track. Broadcast on Christmas Day 1986 and they only finished the final edit that morning so a bit of rush

John Sullivan was never happy with it and in 2004, prior to the series getting a DVD release, decided to significantly re-edit it and removed 18 minutes of footage reducing the length to 58 minutes - a lot from the theatre and some from the dinner party. He also added a laugh track. The new version was the one shown on TV ever since then and was all on the DVD releases bar the magazine part-work.

Both versions are on this - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Only-Fools-Horses-Specials-Blu-ray/dp/B09KJ67P3Z/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15T6R0VCS8GBY&keywords=only+fools+blu&qid=1643756742&sprefix=only+fools+blu%2Caps%2C47&sr=8-1

BorneTobyWilde · 02-02-2022 12:19am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuPbOHWF-M

Strumms · 02-02-2022 3:46am

I think two mistake they made towards the end was firstly trying a bit too much pathos in the storylines almost an entertaining comedy drama or drama comedy, the long 70 minute specials didn’t suit the type of comedy format…they were hit and miss…should have stuck with 2/3 40 minute episodes and left it at that… with the purpose of making people laugh…. More laugh driven less storyline…

all the relationship struggles thing was a bit weird and serious and it got all a bit dreary.

Id just always watched that show to laugh…

B.A._Baracus · 02-02-2022 11:26am

Here's some interesting trivia I just found out about Only Fools' run. I was always under the impression they did each series (or "seasons" of the show) then just switched to specials. But not really like that.

SHORT VERSION: They always seemed to do specials, then back to regular episodes, then specials again. During the shows run they were mostly not making new episodes.

LONG VERSION:

Am just gonna say 'seasons' as it's easier. But seasons 1, 2 and 3 are standard. Aired 1981, 1982 and 1983. They didn't make any episodes in 1984 then came back in 1985 for season 4. They ended season 4 with the Christmas special to hull and back. Season 5 aired in 1986 and the 1986 Christmas special was A Royal Flush (as mentioned in the thread) All grand so far but this is where things get muddled.

They didn't make another episode until the 1987 Christmas special 'the frog's legacy' - but that accordingly is still apart of Season 5. The next episode was Christmas 1988 episode 'Dates' - which is ALSO considered to be Season 5. At this point you would think the show is done with episodes in a season format and just specials.

But then they come back with season 6 - which all aired in 1989 and consisted of 7 episodes ending with the Christmas Special "The Jolly Boys Outing" (Probably the best episode in my opinion) So at this point they are back to making seasons, right?

Season 7 started out normal beginning with the 1990 Christmas Special 'Rodney Come Home' - But by the end of that they are back to Christmas Specials for 1991, next episode christmas special 1992, next christmas special 1993 (all "considered" season 7 lol) The last two seasons are easy to comprehend. Season 8 was the 3 episodes in 1996 (Del and Rodney dressing up as Batman and Robin and they end the show) Lastly season 9 the horrible last 3 episodes.

So all in all, the show had seasons. Then specials only. Then back to seasons. All up and down really. No wonder David Jason did the darling buds of May. He had the time. He even voiced danger mouse for more episodes than only fools haha.

ancapailldorcha · 02-02-2022 1:26pm

Looks like Murray's decided to act the w*nker by jumping on the PC gone mad train.

https://twitter.com/Dorianlynskey/status/1488844836342013952

It's a sad, desperate grab for attention frankly.

silliussoddius · 02-02-2022 3:53pm

How long before that is repeated as “supposedly BBC won’t show”

storker · 02-02-2022 4:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/112488896#Comment_112488896

Possibly the best sight gag ever.

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