Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

Looking for a small-ish and not necessarily smart home charger. Some of the options I've seen around are Wallbox Pulsar, EO Mini (or the Pro 2), QUBEV but I can't find any Irish installers. Has anyone had any experience with any of the above? Any suggestions for where to source and who to get to install it? I'm located around Dublin.

yannakis wrote: »

Looking for a small-ish and not necessarily smart home charger. Some of the options I've seen around are Wallbox Pulsar, EO Mini (or the Pro 2), QUBEV but I can't find any Irish installers. Has anyone had any experience with any of the above? Any suggestions for where to source and who to get to install it? I'm located around Dublin.

electric ireland do the eo mini

Risteard81 wrote: »

I install both of those brands/units. You shouldn't have any difficulty finding someone.

Alright, I can pat my back too. Any pointers though? :pac:

Cyrus wrote: »

electric ireland do the eo mini

I thought that's for their customers only - do they do it for customers of other providers too?

EI are just taking your money and paying someone else to install it, so they'll do it for anyone.

rx8 wrote: »

So my application was resubmitted on 20th November and the money is in my account this morning. Less than 4 weeks since posting. They must have had a guilty feeling after telling me the first application was incomplete.

Just checked mine and it was lodged today as well. I got the approval email on the 17th November so exactly 4 weeks.

They must have wanted to get everyone paid before finishing up for Christmas.

yannakis wrote: »

Spoke with Electric Ireland so I'll just leave this here for anyone that might be interested.

Their prices are fixed no matter what. Price doesn't increase no matter how far your fusebox is, but price also doesn't reduce if you have the cable already in (like myself). So they might be easy to deal with and reliable bla bla but I'm looking to save what I've already spent on running the cable so, not for me.

That’s not quite true I paid extra as my install was unusual, anyway you may find their price is competitive in any event ! Installation costs are mental

Good that we all got paid before Christmas. I think I won though, as it took less than 4 weeks for mine to come through.

finneys13 wrote: »

Hi. I already have a Tesla Wall Charger for my Tesla. My girlfriend is planning to get a Peugeot e208 now.

Is the sensible option to get a second Tesla Wall Charger and daisy chain them together and they share the load? Or install a 13A or even 16A outdoor plug for granny charger, either via the Tesla Wall Charger (is that even possible?) or directly back to the fuseboard (pretty new 80A one).

Any other ideas for charging?

You'll need a charger that supports load balancing or sharing to daisy chain 2 chargers the way you described

For example if the existing charger is connected to a 32A fuse, then it'll charge at the full 32A.

Connecting a second charger to the same circuit would put a 64A load and cause the circuit to overload

Similarly, you probably can't support a second 32A charger, because typically a house would only have 64A available, so you'd have none left over

Chargers that support load sharing will reduce charging speed to share the available power, or prioritise one charger over the other. I don't think the Tesla wall charger supports this type of charging. The Zappi supports this and I think the EO Mini Pro does as well if you add the ALM module

Unfortunately, you'll need something similar for using the granny lead, as this will presumably be using power from the same circuit as your charger (unless you plug it into a socket on a different circuit)

There is a fairly easy short term solution, just take turns on the charger. Both cars have decent range so unless you both use more than 50% charge every day then you'll probably get away with taking turns each day

EDIT: There's one other option, you could set your charger to charge at 16A instead, and install another 16A charger so you can share the 32A circuit safely. You'll permanently be reducing the charging power to 3.6kW in this case, so of you don't need quicker charging them this might work

KCross wrote: »

It does but only if its used between two Tesla wall chargers. They share a set amount of amps between them.

Oh cool, then it should be fine to use a second Tesla wall charger

Will they split the charging current or does one get priority?

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Oh cool, then it should be fine to use a second Tesla wall charger
Will they split the charging current or does one get priority?

They share the load.

finneys13 wrote: »

Thanks for the replies, yes, two Tesla chargers can load share, but will be about 3.5 KW from each when running together. So that's why I am thinking of just a 16A commando plug, also give me about 3.5 KW and I can use it for other uses as needed. And much cheaper.

Some way that the Tesla charger and 16A commando could load share would be much the simplest for me. Don't particularly want to limit my Tesla charger to 16A all the time though.

Otherwise I would have to decide between two Tesla chargers or a 16A (or even 32A if sparks happy with that) commando connected back to the fuseboard

The downside of having a commando socket is that you cant auto load share with the Tesla wall connector then and will have to manage it manually.

Much handier to come home with both cars and plug both of them in knowing that its safe to do so and both will be charged by morning without you having to do or think about anything.

It is more expensive alright though to get two charge points so thats a personal decision for you. The convenience would justify it for me particularly since its a long term thing, not just something for a few years.

finneys13 wrote: »

At a push, the present Tesla charger could be set to 16A (or 20A as the fuse breaker is 40A I think, will double check).

Need to think about it and will talk to the charger installer I used before tomorrow too. I like the idea of a commando plug outside for other temporary uses possibly (like Christmas lights).

Finances not an issue really unless choosing between rough equivalents

Do the Tesla chargers monitor the current load on the circuit using a separate CT clamp? If that's the case then you can have it both ways and fit both an outdoor socket and a second charger

If they just use internal current monitors then the above probably won't work because they won't know when the outdoor socket is being used

If you have the money, I'd go for a second charger, it's more convenient and when one car finishes charging the other will have the full 7kW available

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Do the Tesla chargers monitor the current load on the circuit using a separate CT clamp? If that's the case then you can have it both ways and fit both an outdoor socket and a second charger

If they just use internal current monitors then the above probably won't work because they won't know when the outdoor socket is being used

If you have the money, I'd go for a second charger, it's more convenient and when one car finishes charging the other will have the full 7kW available

Instructions describe a terminal block, nothing about CT clamp. Hopefully the charger installers will have more answers tomorrow

Intodeep wrote: »

If you’re buying a second Tesla charger I have a brand new one never unpacked out of the box. Bought in October but installed a Zappi. Could do you a good price on it.

Will DM you, thanks