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Champions Cup 2020/2021 General Thread

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    #122
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    What is the point of putting out a joke lineup in the first bloody game?!


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    #123
    Akrasia
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    What is the point of putting out a joke lineup in the first bloody game?!

    Because they probably would have been sanctioned for not turning up at all


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    #124
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Exeter #1 has had two chop tackles in 20 seconds there, neither called.


    Glasgow 6 is being called “young McDonald”, presumably ironic as he’s got a hell of a Friar Tuck patch. He was killed by Ewers there anyway, what a scary scary man.


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    #125
    MaddChris
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭MaddChris


    Glasgow are a pity
    28 - NIL now


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    #126
    Eod100
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    What is the point of putting out a joke lineup in the first bloody game?!

    You'd wonder alright for the very first game. Maybe teams concentrating on league ahead of CC with injuries and absences due to covid. But would think for the first game they'd make an effort.


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    #127
    Clegg
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    Exeter are the best team in Europe, but that shouldn't be used as an excuse for Glasgow. Losing 35-0 is pathetic.


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    #128
    Eod100
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    Connacht putting it up to Racing last few mins, time against them now though


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    #129
    Burkie1203
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Connacht putting it up to Racing last few mins, time against them now though

    Racing have been so wasteful. Butchered a good few chances.

    Lineout from both teams a shambles


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    #130
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,216 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/two-champions-cup-fixtures-cancelled/633616
    The Champions Cup tie between Toulouse and Exeter at the Stade Ernest Wallon on Sunday, December 20, has been cancelled.

    The news was confirmed on Monday with the following statement:


    EPCR has been informed that a number of Exeter Chiefs players and staff have tested positive for COVID-19, and that in accordance with public health guidelines, the club will not be able to send a match-day squad to fulfil its Heineken Champions Cup, Round 2 fixture against Toulouse at Stade Ernest Wallon on Sunday, December 20.

    The Pool B match is therefore cancelled.

    As Exeter Chiefs played against Glasgow Warriors in Round 1 of the tournament, Glasgow Warriors have advised EPCR that many of its senior players are now self-isolating in accordance with guidelines from Public Health Scotland, and consequently, the club is not in a position to field a match day squad of the appropriate standard for its Heineken Champions Cup, Round 2 fixture against Lyon at Scotstoun Stadium on Saturday, December 19.


    The Pool B match between Glasgow Warriors and Lyon is therefore also cancelled.

    As per its COVID-19 protocol, EPCR will convene Match Result Resolution Committees to determine the results of the cancelled matches and the decisions of the committees will be communicated as soon as practicable.


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    #131
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,218 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Disaster.
    I can see professional sports being suspended again soon across Europe.


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    #132
    Cookiemunster
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    ongarite wrote: »
    Disaster.
    I can see professional sports being suspended again soon across Europe.
    They won't be. The German Health Minister for example was asked why they weren't cancelling the Bundesliga during the new lockdown. His answer was that it's not taking testing capacity from the general public and the numbers involved are relatively small.

    At the end of the day, nobody has locked everything down to the same extent as last March/April as we now know much more about the virus and how to mitigate against it and professional sport has pretty good pretty good protocols in place to deal with outbreaks.

    We're going to continue to get individual match cancellations, but that was expected and rules have been specifically written to deal with these cancellations.


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    #133
    Dog Botherer
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    oh no who could possibly have seen this coming

    cSnI37l.jpg

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/sep/28/exeter-rob-baxter-end-coronavirus-tests-rugby-players


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    #134
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Jack Nowell's hot take on Twitter aged well.


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    #135
    Burkie1203
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    If the game is cancelled have they determined if it's 0-0 ?


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    #136
    Cookiemunster
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    If the game is cancelled have they determined if it's 0-0 ?

    From Syds post.
    As per its COVID-19 protocol, EPCR will convene Match Result Resolution Committees to determine the results of the cancelled matches and the decisions of the committees will be communicated as soon as practicable.


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    #137
    Buer
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    I would imagine it would be similar to how the Nations Cup approached it i.e. the team which had to withdraw suffers a 28-0 defeat etc. A 0-0 scoreline would be completely unfair to Toulouse who would have fancied their chances of winning. Given they go away to Exeter also, a 0-0 score could potentially eliminate them ultimately.

    A 28-0 scoreline would be a disaster for the rest of the pool though. Toulouse would be in a great position as it would likely give them 3 BP wins (assuming they get one at home to an eliminated Ulster).

    I imagine that the EPC would be eager to play the game at some point as soon as possible but there's no available window unless they played a midweek game. Exeter have games every weekend up until the end of March already scheduled.


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    #138
    crisco10
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    Buer wrote: »
    I would imagine it would be similar to how the Nations Cup approached it i.e. the team which had to withdraw suffers a 28-0 defeat etc. A 0-0 scoreline would be completely unfair to Toulouse who would have fancied their chances of winning. Given they go away to Exeter also, a 0-0 score could potentially eliminate them ultimately.

    A 28-0 scoreline would be a disaster for the rest of the pool though. Toulouse would be in a great position as it would likely give them 3 BP wins (assuming they get one at home to an eliminated Ulster).

    I imagine that the EPC would be eager to play the game at some point as soon as possible but there's no available window unless they played a midweek game. Exeter have games every weekend up until the end of March already scheduled.

    If they do that, it's even harsher on Glasgow. Despite (potentially) having zero cases in their squad, they concede a BP defeat at home.

    Would all just contribute to the asterisk that is developing beside this season


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    #139
    Cookiemunster
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    crisco10 wrote: »
    If they do that, it's even harsher on Glasgow. Despite (potentially) having zero cases in their squad, they concede a BP defeat at home.

    Would all just contribute to the asterisk that is developing beside this season
    The thing is that while unfair, Glasgow are as good as out already after the hammering they took in Exeter. Advantage to Lyon though if it happens.


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    #140
    Buer
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    crisco10 wrote: »
    If they do that, it's even harsher on Glasgow. Despite (potentially) having zero cases in their squad, they concede a BP defeat at home.

    Would all just contribute to the asterisk that is developing beside this season

    I don't think they'd take the same approach to Glasgow. It's no fault of theirs. They just happened to share a pitch with Exeter. A 0-0 result could come into play there. I don't think matches will be rescheduled now, looking at things. The fixture list is just too condensed already.

    I'd imagine Glasgow and Lyon would both shrug and accept a 0-0 result ultimately.


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    #141
    aloooof
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Jack Nowell's hot take on Twitter aged well.

    I remember at the time, one of the Eggchasers lads came out with this take in the replies which is, eh, something...

    https://twitter.com/Jbeardmore/status/1308848476374138880


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    #142
    Dog Botherer
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    that JB guy has had a few massive stinkers lately. his response to the Chiefs racism issue was similarly crap.


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    #143
    RugbyLover123
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    Dog Botherer wrote: »
    that JB guy has had a few massive stinkers lately. his response to the Chiefs racism issue was similarly crap.

    Loves the sound of his own voice so he does. That podcast is essentially 80% him ranting about something, the other 2 lads who are actually very good can’t get a word in. Pretty much every podcast he spends about 5 minutes ‘being sure’ on something only to be completely wrong.


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    #144
    Dog Botherer
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    RugbyLover123 wrote: »
    Loves the sound of his own voice so he does. That podcast is essentially 80% him ranting about something, the other 2 lads who are actually very good can’t get a word in. Pretty much every podcast he spends about 5 minutes ‘being sure’ on something only to be completely wrong.

    i only listen to that podcast when England have lost humiliatingly. intolerable otherwise.

    i have noticed with some amusement that he is yet to comment on the Exeter situation, preferring instead to talk transfers all morning on Twitter.


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    #145
    lawrencesummers
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    Plenty of time to rearrange the fixtures, if very little time to get the buy in of the other respective stakeholders in their respective leagues and move a current fixture.

    First two weekends in January are for league games, they could rearrange a few games there


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    #146
    Burkie1203
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    Plenty of time to rearrange the fixtures, if very little time to get the buy in of the other respective stakeholders in their respective leagues and move a current fixture.

    First two weekends in January are for league games, they could rearrange a few games there

    And where do you move the league games to?


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    #147
    thomond2006
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    Plenty of time to rearrange the fixtures, if very little time to get the buy in of the other respective stakeholders in their respective leagues and move a current fixture.

    First two weekends in January are for league games, they could rearrange a few games there

    Good luck telling the French to move Top 14 games.


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    #148
    Buer
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    Lyon already have a rescheduled game on a Wednesday in early January.

    The GP have games on every single weekend aside from the weekends already scheduled for EPC games.

    If these games are to go ahead, the teams involved are going to have to agree to midweek games potentially on the Wednesday between rounds 3 and 4. I don't see the teams going for that.


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    #149
    sydthebeat
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    ROG was of the opinion on OTB that Glasgow will have to give up a 28-0 result as well, as they technically have to forfeit due to Scottish gov rules


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    #150
    lawrencesummers
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    And where do you move the league games to?

    Could be a few free weekends during the six nations, plenty of time to reschedule the fixtures, it’s the will to do so by the people involved that will be lacking not the way to do so.


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    #151
    thomond2006
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    Could be a few free weekends during the six nations, plenty of time to reschedule the fixtures, it’s the will to do so by the people involved that will be lacking not the way to do so.

    https://www.lnr.fr/sites/default/files/calendrier_top_14_2020-2021.pdf

    There aren't many weeks available.


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