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The Vaccine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    not all...!!!

    it already has been established that passive RFID tags do not require an internal power source
    They mainly operate by receiving radio waves to their antenna from an RFID reader, which then gives them power to transmit the information back to the reader

    Passive RFID tags can be manufactured to sizes most people would not see with the naked eye

    Ok I'll humour you. How many of them are to be placed in the bottle that contains 5 doses of the vaccine that will be used in Ireland?
    Just so we're clear if there are 5 people receiving their vaccine from the same bottle how are they going to get an individual RFID tag?


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    not much data needed and a few mm is sufficient for any RFID reader to pick up a signal

    A tad telling that you omitted most of my post. What data is it holding and what purpose does it serve? Why couldn't any vaccine be used to achieve this conspiracy? What real life examples do you have of nanotech rfid tags being injected into a human?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    By saying something is powered, one needs to clarify if that is done externally or internally

    if you are saying that one of these devices can operate without having its own internal power source and can operate from an external source such as an RFID reader providing RF waves then we have agreed

    if you are saying that one of these devices cannot operate without the need for having its own internal power source, ie. battery, then we'll have to agree to disagree

    I have no problem accepting that they can be powered externally within a very small range. The usefulness of this is what I don't understand but if you explain it we may be a step closer to you telling us what the conspiracy is eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    not much data needed and a few mm is sufficient for any RFID reader to pick up a signal

    There are much simpler and reliable ways to track individuals if you really want to.

    It's mad the nonsense that is allowed fester.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    And this seems to amount to the quantum tattoo conspiracy except it's injected directly into a person's body. It would be incapable of carrying much data with a range of a few millimetres. Sounding pretty useless plus you'd have to cover up the existence of the nano tech in the vaccine... Also why exactly couldn't this have been put in the multiple other vaccines that people get from birth to death? Seems a bit silly to do it in this way. There's zero logic to the theory.

    all I'm saying is that there is technology available to allow for this

    time will tell if it becomes part of the vaccine, part of the confirmation of the vaccine, or a way of identifying if you have had the vaccine

    we shall see...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    aido79 wrote: »
    Ok I'll humour you. How many of them are to be placed in the bottle that contains 5 doses of the vaccine that will be used in Ireland?
    Just so we're clear if there are 5 people receiving their vaccine from the same bottle how are they going to get an individual RFID tag?

    do they need to be individual RFID tags to confirm?


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    all I'm saying is that there is technology available to allow for this

    time will tell if it becomes part of the vaccine, part of the confirmation of the vaccine, or a way of identifying if you have had the vaccine

    we shall see...

    Cool, so you don't have a coherent conspiracy. Cause it's a ridiculously stupid way of verifying that a person has had a vaccine. You also clearly have no proof of concept of nanotech rfid technology being injected into a human. That's all I'm saying...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    all I'm saying is that there is technology available to allow for this

    time will tell if it becomes part of the vaccine, part of the confirmation of the vaccine, or a way of identifying if you have had the vaccine

    we shall see...

    So are you saying it is not part of the vaccine and hence there is no conspiracy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    kippy wrote: »
    There are much simpler and reliable ways to track individuals if you really want to.

    for example?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    do they need to be individual RFID tags to confirm?

    It's your conspiracy so I'll let decide that.


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  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    all I'm saying is that there is technology available to allow for this

    time will tell if it becomes part of the vaccine, part of the confirmation of the vaccine, or a way of identifying if you have had the vaccine

    we shall see...
    So no, you have no evidence or reason to believe it's in the vaccine. You're just making stuff up now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    for example?

    If you have to ask, I don't think it's worth the explaination to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    kippy wrote: »
    If you have to ask, I don't think it's worth the explaination to be honest.

    I'd like to know your opinion if you think there are simpler methods


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    I'd like to know your opinion if you think there are simpler methods

    You're probably at least one piece of tech (hardware and/or software) that already does this for anyone using it......
    Indeed, you generally don't have to coerce anyone into it either or come up with some other hairbrained scheme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,962 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    do they need to be individual RFID tags to confirm?

    So it's generic? How would they know which person got which "tag"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    kippy wrote: »
    You're probably at least one piece of tech (hardware and/or software) that already does this for anyone using it......
    Indeed, you generally don't have to coerce anyone into it either or come up with some other hairbrained scheme.

    if you're referring to a phone, then how does that stop someone swapping phones, copying QR codes etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    So it's generic? How would they know which person got which "tag"?

    30 kids walk into a class and on the way in, they are told to pick one apple out of the basket and sit down

    there are only 25 apples in the basket

    teacher walks in and says anyone who has an apple, please stand up as you dont have to do homework tonight

    25 kids stand up and they go home with no homework


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    if you're referring to a phone, then how does that stop someone swapping phones, copying QR codes etc

    Username/password/SIM Card/GPS Signature/Cookies/Bluetooth Signature, modern CCTV etc etc

    To be fair, one would have to ask why would anyone really want to track you in the first place, and indeed why would any group of people want to actually track millions of people........ - usually the question I ask.


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    if you're referring to a phone, then how does that stop someone swapping phones, copying QR codes etc

    So who exactly is gonna be scanning rfid tags in a human body? That in itself would expose the fact the tags exist in the human body. So far this is sounding pretty convoluted. Your above statement could equally apply to swapping passports...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,962 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    30 kids walk into a class and on the way in, they are told to pick one apple out of the basket and sit down

    there are only 25 apples in the basket

    teacher walks in and says anyone who has an apple, please stand up as you dont have to do homework tonight

    25 kids stand up and they go home with no homework

    I go to GP, I get vaccine, vaccine contains chips/rfid/whatever. I leave GP, How do "they" know which chip(s) i got? What info could these chips pass on about me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭circadian


    Well, I'm convinced.


    Convinced we're all being wound up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    kippy wrote: »
    Username/password/SIM Card/GPS Signature/Cookies/Bluetooth Signature, modern CCTV etc etc

    To be fair, one would have to ask why would anyone really want to track you in the first place, and indeed why would any group of people want to actually track millions of people........ - usually the question I ask.

    I never said anything about tracking, you are just being confirmed if you have been vaccinated at a point of entry

    it doesnt matter if you picked up a red or a green apple, the teacher just wanted to know which kids had apples


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    I never said anything about tracking, you are just being confirmed if you have been vaccinated at a point of entry

    it doesnt matter if you picked up a red or a green apple, the teacher just wanted to know which kids had apples

    So whats the conspiracy again?
    Teachers want to know what kids had apples?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    kippy wrote: »
    So whats the conspiracy again?
    Teachers want to know what kids had apples?

    If Anne has a red apple and Barry has a green apple, whose parents are sheeple?


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Also passive rfid tags can be picked up by a phone so by Lex's logic it should be very easy to verify the presence of an rfid tag. Even if they're encrypted the signal is detectable. So Lex got any person who has been vaccinated who picked up on a tag with their phone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    ............................ It's my second degree in the areaY so I'm fairly sure I understand what nano means.

    You didnt until I mentioned it. If you were in first year engineering you would know the number range of Pico and Nano. If you are wondering how a body wouldnt notice it being injected the clue is in the numbers. Its like throwing a Mars bar up O Connell Street and expecting someone to notice it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    I never said anything about tracking, you are just being confirmed if you have been vaccinated at a point of entry

    it doesnt matter if you picked up a red or a green apple, the teacher just wanted to know which kids had apples

    What an expensive way do it it. Invent a new tech which we don't have yet and secretly inject it into people. This nano machine is injected into the bloodstream, so how does a reader find that machine which could end up anywhere in the body. Maybe there are many nano machines, have you invented Von Nuemann machines because that would be awesome?

    Why aren't they already in the 1000s of widely accepted vaccines, how come no one has ever found one?

    Fyi, a QR code is just text. You seem to think it's something magical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    You didnt until I mentioned it. If you were in first year engineering you would know the number range of Pico and Nano. If you are wondering how a body wouldnt notice it being injected the clue is in the numbers. Its like throwing a Mars bar up O Connell Street and expecting someone to notice it.

    Whoops, that's not how it works! Your body is incredibly hostile to foreign objects and rejects/attacks them. How did you solve this issue with just a teeny weeny device?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,161 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I like how everyone has just given up on conspiracies totally, and now we are into the sci-fi zone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    I like how everyone has just given up on conspiracies totally, and now we are into the sci-fi zone.

    I just didn't know we were so advanced!

    Like there are 5 doses per container, how does the gp get just one nano device into his syringe? Is he able to send them a command and they just zoom into the syringe. Amazing, we have nano-machines now, not just passive RFID devices. Bit surprising all GPs are involved. I must ask my doc when he became so tech proficient.

    Or maybe the vaccine container is saturated with nano devices, that makes more sense, right? So we have a soup of vaccine and a non-negligle amount of nano devices. But you can't detect them, maybe they have chameleonware? This is even better.

    And they also are immune to the bodies defenses, do not degrade significantly for at least a year (?), are undetectable to any gp with a microscope, or one assumes anyone carrying out blood tests on vaccinated people.

    I didn't know we had all this stuff, what a time to be alive!


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