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The Vaccine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,042 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Sorry try a little harder ......https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/11/25/theragripper-gi-tract-medicine-delivery/

    Anything you see as current high technology has been in use 20 years by governments.

    It would have helped if you spelled it correctly. So what is the conspiracy with this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    I only heard a lecturer talk about it the other day during a conversation. I hadnt a chance to look it up yet. but I recall everything he told me about it in 5 minutes.

    Did he say it is part of the conspiracy? Maybe ask him what his opinion is on the conspiracy since he seems to have knowledge of what may be possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭circadian


    You can ask.... Lets say it was an Irish University and not a printing press one.




    It's grand, you already told us.




    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114725863


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    circadian wrote: »
    You do realise that vaccines don't immediately protect, right? Like, you do understand the basic fundamentals of how vaccines work?

    What I am trying to say is that if she wasnt at risk, then why release her after 2 days?

    Even a child understands the logic of that

    So immunity typically from a vaccine takes 2 weeks to build up, then at 90yrs of age she is still in one of the most at risk categories, but she is allowed out and getting hugged, kissed and touched by her family, when up until then they couldnt get near her apart from through a glass window

    if this thread wasnt funny, I dont think I'd waste my time in here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Well you are going to need a top-up for every corona virus for every year arent you?

    Says who?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭circadian


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    What I am trying to say is that if she wasnt at risk, then why release her after 2 days?

    Even a child understands the logic of that

    So immunity typically from a vaccine takes 2 weeks to build up, then at 90yrs of age she is still in one of the most at risk categories, but she is allowed out and getting hugged, kissed and touched by her family, when up until then they couldnt get near her apart from through a glass window

    if this thread wasnt funny, I dont think I'd waste my time in here




    Ah right, so everyone that gets vaccinated should take up hospital space in a health system that's being crippled by the very virus they're receiving a vaccine for?


    Again, she is most likely living with her family. The risk remains the same regardless of vaccination status, until she has the antibodies. In fact, a home setting is probably much safer than a healthcare one in relation to catching the virus. The 2 day stay I would imagine is to monitor in case of a reaction to the vaccine than anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    Did he say it is part of the conspiracy? Maybe ask him what his opinion is on the conspiracy since he seems to have knowledge of what may be possible.

    No, I am smart enough to pick my battles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    Says who?

    Well the Virus is going to "mutate" so you will need a new vaccine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭circadian


    No, I am smart enough to pick my battles.




    So you're willing to paraphrase him but unwilling to challenge what was actually said? Why is that?


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well the Virus is going to "mutate" so you will need a new vaccine?
    Lol why are you putting mutate in scare quotes?
    Are you saying that the virus can't do this? Or won't?
    Or are you claiming that all the scientists all over the world who are involved in your ridiculous conspiracy are going to falsely claim that it mutated?

    I thought you were supposed to be good at biology, yet now I'm starting to doubt that you understand what vaccines are and how they work...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    No, I am smart enough to pick my battles.

    Why do you need to fight with him over it. Just ask for your own knowledge what is possible and what's not. It's very common in my experience for people to ask opinions off people who are more know about a subject. I find it also helps to stop the spread of false information and conspiracies.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    circadian wrote: »
    So you're willing to paraphrase him but unwilling to challenge what was actually said? Why is that?
    Only a rebel online.

    Claims all this online but won't actually bring it up in class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Well the Virus is going to "mutate" so you will need a new vaccine?

    Again how do you know this? Is this another part of the conspiracy to ensure that the big pharmaceutical companies make money year after year?
    How often do you get measles or polio vaccinations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭circadian


    King Mob wrote: »
    Only a rebel online.

    Claims all this online but won't actually bring it up in class.




    I'm 99% certain this user has taken something their Professor has said in class and found a way to use it to justify their own hypothesis without actually;


    Doing any of their own research,
    Maintaining the context of what was said.


    Worst case scenario is that there is a lecturer in Maynooth who is supporting and spreading misinformation, which if this is the case, I'm sure the Head of Biology in Maynooth (Prof. Moynagh) would like to know about it.


    Much like UCD distancing itself from Delores Cahill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    Again how do you know this? Is this another part of the conspiracy to ensure that the big pharmaceutical companies make money year after year?
    How often do you get measles or polio vaccinations?

    Just got told they found a new variant of it yesterday.
    People get the flu vaccine every year this will be the new normal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    Why do you need to fight with him over it. Just ask for your own knowledge what is possible and what's not. It's very common in my experience for people to ask opinions off people who are more know about a subject. I find it also helps to stop the spread of false information and conspiracies.

    Have you actually been to University? Its not a place for debate anymore. The advice I got was going to college was, sup the soup being a good boy and dont upset anyone.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have you actually been to University? Its not a place for debate anymore. The advice I got was going to college was, sup the soup being a good boy and dont upset anyone.

    No, sorry. That's just code for "don't expose your wacky paranoid conspiracy beliefs because you know you'll be laughed at, or worse, you might start to doubt the conspiracy."

    Also, no, you're not like a person living in the Famine because your conspiracy theories aren't taken seriously by most grown ups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Just got told they found a new variant of it yesterday.
    People get the flu vaccine every year this will be the new normal

    And what part of this is a conspiracy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    King Mob wrote: »
    No, sorry. That's just code for "don't expose your wacky paranoid conspiracy beliefs because you know you'll be laughed at, or worse, you might start to doubt the conspiracy."

    Also, no, you're not like a person living in the Famine because your conspiracy theories aren't taken seriously by most grown ups.

    Easy for you to say when your boots aren't on the ground in college. how about you go up to your boss and tell him how the company should be run? Same difference. There is a time for everything.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Easy for you to say when your boots aren't on the ground in college. how about you go up to your boss and tell him how the company should be run? Same difference. There is a time for everything.
    Mm hm. I'm sure you tell yourself this and that you are a very brave rebel.

    In reality you are just too afraid to actually stand behind your conspiracy theories because people will rightly laugh them out of the room.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Have you actually been to University? Its not a place for debate anymore. The advice I got was going to college was, sup the soup being a good boy and dont upset anyone.

    I'm currently a mature student and would have no problem asking a lecturer to clarify something I was struggling to understand or wanted more info on. Most lecturers love being asked questions as it gives them a chance to show their knowledge and usually helps advance the entire classes learning rather than just reading off a PowerPoint presentation.

    That's the worst advice I have ever heard. Why would you not question what you are being taught particularly if you don't understand it very well which, no offense, seems to be the case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Just got told they found a new variant of it yesterday.
    People get the flu vaccine every year this will be the new normal

    I wonder if this will mean they will have to get a new database of cough recordings for the AI voice recognition software to be able to diagnose for COVID for this new strain or will the existing one suffice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭circadian


    Easy for you to say when your boots aren't on the ground in college. how about you go up to your boss and tell him how the company should be run? Same difference. There is a time for everything.




    I work in higher education, including with NUIM and would state that they are a place that supports healthy debate. Who exactly told you to "sup the soup being a good boy and dont upset anyone."? I sincerely doubt that was in any official capacity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,042 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    aido79 wrote: »
    I'm currently a mature student and would have no problem asking a lecturer to clarify something I was struggling to understand or wanted more info on. Most lecturers love being asked questions as it gives them a chance to show their knowledge and usually helps advance the entire classes learning rather than just reading off a PowerPoint presentation.

    That's the worst advice I have ever heard. Why would you not question what you are being taught particularly if you don't understand it very well which, no offense, seems to be the case?

    Is that not the whole point of college? to learn how to think for yourselves and question perceived wisdom?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    I wonder if this will mean they will have to get a new database of cough recordings for the AI voice recognition software to be able to diagnose for COVID for this new strain or will the existing one suffice?

    How does that fit in with the conspiracy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Is that not the whole point of college? to learn how to think for yourselves and question perceived wisdom?

    That's what I always thought. I was told by a lecturer many years ago that most of what we learned in college would be obsolete(electronics) in a few years but the whole point of college was to get us into a way of thinking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    I'm currently a mature student and would have no problem asking a lecturer to clarify something I was struggling to understand or wanted more info on. Most lecturers love being asked questions as it gives them a chance to show their knowledge and usually helps advance the entire classes learning rather than just reading off a PowerPoint presentation.

    That's the worst advice I have ever heard. Why would you not question what you are being taught particularly if you don't understand it very well which, no offense, seems to be the case?

    Not the same thing. Have an open disagreement with them in class and see where it gets you. I had a mate who told a lecturer that there werent 27 different genders. He switched subjects fast enough.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not the same thing. Have an open disagreement with them in class and see where it gets you. I had a mate who told a lecturer that there werent 27 different genders. He switched subjects fast enough.
    I had a mate who's head fell off cause he watched too many conspiracy videos.
    Better watch out for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    aido79 wrote: »
    That's what I always thought. I was told by a lecturer many years ago that most of what we learned in college would be obsolete(electronics) in a few years but the whole point of college was to get us into a way of thinking.

    How does that fit in with the conspiracy?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    I'm currently a mature student and would have no problem asking a lecturer to clarify something I was struggling to understand or wanted more info on. Most lecturers love being asked questions as it gives them a chance to show their knowledge and usually helps advance the entire classes learning rather than just reading off a PowerPoint presentation.

    That's the worst advice I have ever heard. Why would you not question what you are being taught particularly if you don't understand it very well which, no offense, seems to be the case?

    Ahem on what course? I had some fairly mad ideas on GcMAF and David Noakes.They like to be asked questions not to have their subject questioned , big difference.


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