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The Vaccine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DR Judy Mikovits? She was saying the same thing.

    Did she say the same nonsense as Dolores?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    she was taken out because she talked nonsense and embarrassed UCD. That is a very poor example to be relying on.

    UCD is under the thumb of industry and sponsors, they did what they need to do to protect their funding.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DR Judy Mikovits? She was saying the same thing.
    You seem to be under the illusion that anyone wit Doctor in front of their name can't be wrong, or susceptible to the same flawed thinking that leads people to believe conspiracy theoriest, or that they can't be tempted by making some money from promoting conspiracy theories...

    Ironic that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    UCD is under the thumb of industry and sponsors, they did what they need to do to protect their funding.

    they did what they had to do to protect their image as a serious institute of education. why would they do otherwise? Do you think dolores was correct in what she said?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Did she say the same nonsense as Dolores?

    You know she (dr Judy Mikovits) was arrested and held without charge. The pharmaceutical lobby is a powerful one.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    they did what they had to do to protect their image as a serious institute of education. why would they do otherwise? Do you think dolores was correct in what she said?

    They did what they had to do to protect their corporate sponsors, That was the right thing for UCD to protect UCDs interests. why would they do other wise?

    Without a doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,906 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    DR Judy Mikovits? She was saying the same thing.
    I have never heard of her before but this gives a really detailed outline of some of her claims...
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
    Embarassing stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Dr Delores Cahill taken out of UCD. if she is gone out of the college then her research is gone too or taken over by someone else. I am sure there are other like dr Judy Mikovits.

    Did you really just use a far right wing politician who has no experience with vaccination research as an example? What research has she done that is relevant to anything to do with covid19?

    Dr Judy Mikovits seems to have made a name for herself by having her claims discredited.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits

    Are these really the type of people you choose to build your conspiracy theory?


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They did what they had to do to protect their corporate sponsors, That was the right thing for UCD to protect UCDs interests. why would they do other wise?

    Without a doubt.
    Cool. What evidence do you have for this.
    Is it none?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    King Mob wrote: »
    You seem to be under the illusion that anyone wit Doctor in front of their name can't be wrong, or susceptible to the same flawed thinking that leads people to believe conspiracy theoriest, or that they can't be tempted by making some money from promoting conspiracy theories...

    Ironic that.

    I listen to all sides, look outside and see what is actually going on and then make up my own mind. I will watch videos of Dr Anthony Fauci right after a Delores Cahill one. I dont see anyone dying of Covid in Ireland. I dont know of anyone who has had covid or know anyone who knows anyone who died from covid who wasnt over 70 and had serious preexisting conditions.

    Maybe that is just me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    gmisk wrote: »
    I have never heard of her before but this gives a really detailed outline of some of her claims...
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
    Embarassing stuff.

    She makes what Dolores said almost seem reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    UCD is under the thumb of industry and sponsors, they did what they need to do to protect their funding.

    Do you honestly believe this is what is happening in places like UCD around the world and that's what the conspiracy theory is around the vaccine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,161 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Page 61 now. One debunked conspiracy about HCQ, no conspiracy about the Covid vaccine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    They did what they had to do to protect their corporate sponsors, That was the right thing for UCD to protect UCDs interests. why would they do other wise?

    Without a doubt.

    do you think that Dolores was right? It is a very simple question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,161 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I listen to all sides, look outside and see what is actually going on and then make up my own mind.

    Perhaps but on this forum the above translates into: "I scour fringe sites for isolated experts and professionals that support my extreme view and ignore scientific or factual consensus"


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    . I dont see anyone dying of Covid in Ireland. I dont know of anyone who has had covid or know anyone who knows anyone who died from covid who wasnt over 70 and had serious preexisting conditions.

    Maybe that is just me?

    Well the above is simply not true.
    Not sure why you're lying about that stuff.

    Could you please explain what your conspiracy is?
    Do you believe there's something in the vaccine to cause depopulation?
    Or do you subscribe to the microchip idea?
    Or are you more of a "mark of the beast" guy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    Did you really just use a far right wing politician who has no experience with vaccination research as an example? What research has she done that is relevant to anything to do with covid19?

    Dr Judy Mikovits seems to have made a name for herself by having her claims discredited.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits

    Are these really the type of people you choose to build your conspiracy theory?

    Define "far right"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Well the above is simply not true.
    Not sure why you're lying about that stuff.

    Could you please explain what your conspiracy is?
    Do you believe there's something in the vaccine to cause depopulation?
    Or do you subscribe to the microchip idea?
    Or are you more of a "mark of the beast" guy?

    The death rate isnt up on the same time last year. College lecturers are telling us 4% are dying from covid.

    Well I believe we are giving up a lot of our civil rights without a date when they will be returned. I believe we are giving up a lot of the control of our currency without questioning it.

    There is something already causing problems with depopulation with 1 in 6 Irish couples having problems with fertility.
    explain the microchip idea? Oh that already has happened with mobile phones.
    Mark of the Beast? It has happened before and it will happen again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    aido79 wrote: »
    Do you have family members that may have done similar things or did they just take their supplements and carry on like they would have pre covid19?

    I think you know the answer to that one
    aido79 wrote: »
    What's your preferred brand of tinfoil?

    and I got multiple warnings and infractions for posting things like this
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115618374&postcount=798

    Double standards going on here, dont worry I wont be reporting it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The death rate isnt up on the same time last year. .

    so the CSO are lying then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Define "far right"?

    Why do you continue to dodge questions?
    Dolores Cahill is the chairperson of a right wing political party called The Irish Freedom party which you might already be aware of.
    Right wing politicians are generally anti vaccination. Can you show me anything that backs up her claims about covid19 bearing in mind it is outside her field of expertise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,161 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    The death rate isnt up on the same time last year. College lecturers are telling us 4% are dying from covid.

    The death rate from Covid is not static, it's higher in certain countries (e.g. Italy) and lower in other countries (e.g. Germany), also more people died at the beginning of the pandemic, whereas now we have a better grasp of how to treat it more effectively
    Well I believe we are giving up a lot of our civil rights without a date when they will be returned. I believe we are giving up a lot of the control of our currency without questioning it.

    How does wearing a mask infringe "civil rights"? It's simply one common sense method to reduce the spread of a virus, there's nothing political about it.

    And where is the conspiracy? who is conspiring to do what, to whom, and why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    so the CSO are lying then?

    CSO are reporting Covid deaths but they arent up on what was dying at the same last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    UCD is under the thumb of industry and sponsors, they did what they need to do to protect their funding.

    I've said it already, only 4-5% will get it


    Getting ready for the quoted reply - "Get what?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    I think you know the answer to that one



    and I got multiple warnings and infractions for posting things like this
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115618374&postcount=798

    Double standards going on here, dont worry I wont be reporting it

    No I don't know the answer to it. Does everyone is your family and your circle follow your way of thinking?

    Feel free to report anything you see fit. There are no double standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    CSO are reporting Covid deaths but they arent up on what was dying at the same last year.

    they are by approx 1200


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    Dolores Cahill is the chairperson of a right wing political party called The Irish Freedom party which you might already be aware of.
    Right wing politicians are generally anti vaccination. Can you show me anything that backs up her claims about covid19 bearing in mind it is outside her field of expertise?

    Far right party? So they have paramilitary wing like the brown shirts?
    They use violence and intimidation?
    They want to silence people and have a purge planned? (night of the broken glass)
    They are planning on destabilizing the current government? (night of the long knives)

    I think Dr Anthony Fauci said at one point that masks were useless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    I've said it already, only 4-5% will get it


    Getting ready for the quoted reply - "Get what?"

    You should hear the terror I was told yesterday. The next stage is on the way and it will be more infectious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    whereas now we have a better grasp of how to treat it more effectively

    Can you elaborate more on these treatments?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    they are by approx 1200

    In a population of 5 million? That isnt even a quarter of a percent. You must also remember we are having a fairly cold winter as well. it hit -5C the other night along with fuel poverty


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