What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

Electric Nitwit · 13-12-2020 12:25PM

flended12 wrote: »

Have you tried a jameson and cranberry, those in the know call it a jemberry.

I've given it to so many whiskey fans and before tasting it they laugh and ridicule, some even threaten violence.

But usually their reaction after first sip is a confused look and immediately go after another mouthful.

The comment is usually 'jaysis that's dangerous, I wasnt expecting that...'.

Try it for yourself. Whiskey, cranberry juice, ice.

That is my reaction, but now I have to try it!

*adds cranberry juice to the shopping list

Mellor · 13-12-2020 12:26PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

I think the umbrage is more with the original post that the word "drops" be taken literally.

Yeah, of course. The techniques part was nonsense. Everyone knows the best whiskey establishments encourage patrons to use medicinal droppers.

the beer revolu wrote: »

The poster then went on about tannins and oils, even inferring that this is somehow unique to Irish whiskey. This is often spoken about and is basically rubbish. Adding water dilutes the liquid, this causes the flavour compounds to gather on the surface. The lower the abv (up to a point) the more this happens.
So, the drop of water that you add does exactly the same thing as the water that is added to the whiskey prior to bottling. Why would this water behave any differently to the water in the bottle?
A bottle of whiskey is approximately 60% water anyway, surely these oils and tannins would be on the surface anyway?

On the two points in bold.
There was a study somewhere on it. That basically found the distribution of molecules if related to the ABV. So adding water is mainly about changing the ABV to get an certain effect.

On the water in bottle vrs in glass. I'm not sure that it makes a difference or not. But it was also said that certain molecules bind together and water adding water disrupts that.

But there are many other ways to open up aroma and similar.

Ivefoundgod · 13-12-2020 12:29PM

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

That is my reaction, but now I have to try it!

*adds cranberry juice to the shopping list

I had a similar reaction but its on my list now as well, will report back when I get a chance to try it. Probably next weekend realistically as I'm not generally a school night drinker.

Ivefoundgod · 13-12-2020 12:36PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

I think the ire was because the poster stated that this is the way Irish whiskey should be drunk.
Personally, I like a little drop of water in most whiskies - I find it dilutes it slightly.

This poster inferred that anyone doing differently to them is doing it wrong. That's just bullshlt.

The poster suggested that the correct way to do this is with a straw - there are many ways to add your required amount of water. I think most people are aware that you can dispense liquid with a straw. No one needs this patronising, detailed mansplaining.

The poster then went on about tannins and oils, even inferring that this is somehow unique to Irish whiskey. This is often spoken about and is basically rubbish. Adding water dilutes the liquid, this causes the flavour compounds to gather on the surface. The lower the abv (up to a point) the more this happens.
So, the drop of water that you add does exactly the same thing as the water that is added to the whiskey prior to bottling. Why would this water behave any differently to the water in the bottle?
A bottle of whiskey is approximately 60% water anyway, surely these oils and tannins would be on the surface anyway?

The post was not only arrogant and patronising, it was mostly wrong, too.

Oh, and someone else confirmed this bs by saying that they were told it on a tour. Well.......?
Whiskey tours are notoriously full of misinformation, legends and lies!

This is exactly the problem with the post plus the fact they picked out a random post by me in a conversation about mixing whiskey. Had they looked at the thread they'd have seen my original post saying I typically only use water with whiskey. The post is written like they are sharing some revelatory wisdom about how to drink whiskey. How people like their whiskey is their business and these kind of posts are why some people think whiskey fans are snobs when in my experience that's not actually the case.

The follow up post "Try it sometime" is just pathetic tbh.

flended12 · 13-12-2020 12:50PM

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

That is my reaction, but now I have to try it!

*adds cranberry juice to the shopping list

Throw in a wedge of lime too.

killbillvol2 · 13-12-2020 12:51PM

Spotted Stone's Ginger Wine in an off licence last week so I picked up a couple of bottles. A Whisky Mac on a winter's evening hits the nail on the head but they're dangerously drinkable. It used to be a favourite drink of a couple of old characters in a bar I worked in in Portsmouth years ago.

(I usually add the ginger wine by unscrewing the lid and pouring from the bottle for those fussy about technique).

the beer revolu · 13-12-2020 01:01PM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Spotted Stone's Ginger Wine in an off licence last week so I picked up a couple of bottles. A Whisky Mac on a winter's evening hits the nail on the head but they're dangerously drinkable. It used to be a favourite drink of a couple of old characters in a bar I worked in in Portsmouth years ago.

(I usually add the ginger wine by unscrewing the lid and pouring from the bottle for those fussy about technique).

Love a whisky mac.
Had almost forgotten about it.

Pastis drinkers can have some bizarre notions too. I once saw a right dickhead berate a server for putting the ice into the pastis rather than pouring the pastis over the ice. Or was it the other way around? Nonsense, anyway.

Wailin · 13-12-2020 02:29PM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

What he said ^^^^^

It's all good lads. On another note, come on the Deise! If they win I'll be opening my bottle of Dair Ghaelach and ringing in sick

Mellor · 13-12-2020 03:21PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

Love a whisky mac.
Had almost forgotten about it.

Pastis drinkers can have some bizarre notions too. I once saw a right dickhead berate a server for putting the ice into the pastis rather than pouring the pastis over the ice. Or was it the other way around? Nonsense, anyway.

Off to google Whiskey Mac and Pastis

Ivefoundgod · 13-12-2020 03:30PM

Anyone see Dick Macks are releasing a whiskey? Distilled in Dingle.

dobman88 · 13-12-2020 03:36PM

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Anyone see Dick Macks are releasing a whiskey? Distilled in Dingle.

I saw a cryptic tweet that said what started in 2013 is coming soon, watch this space. But didn't hear it was whiskey. Would make sense tho

Cazale · 13-12-2020 03:39PM

Tesco have some stocks of MVR 2020. One near me getting six on Tuesday. I'm not saying which one! Strictly one per customer so hopefully nobody ends up with 12 or 80 shared among a few as we have seen in this thread.

killbillvol2 · 13-12-2020 03:40PM

Wailin wrote: »

It's all good lads. On another note, come on the Deise! If they win I'll be opening my bottle of Dair Ghaelach and ringing in sick

I'll be tearing into my Redbreast 15 and may resurface by Wednesday!

Cazale · 13-12-2020 03:41PM

Wailin wrote:

It's all good lads. On another note, come on the Deise! If they win I'll be opening my bottle of Dair Ghaelach and ringing in sick

Less of that now. Saying that I have the proper 12 ready for next Sunday when the Dubs win. I find diluting it with the tears of the other 31 counties really helps it.

Paul Weller · 13-12-2020 03:41PM

My local just got some Redbreast 12yo cask strength into stock... small Xmas pressie to myself purchased

BonnieSituation · 13-12-2020 03:47PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

Love a whisky mac.
Had almost forgotten about it.

Pastis drinkers can have some bizarre notions too. I once saw a right dickhead berate a server for putting the ice into the pastis rather than pouring the pastis over the ice. Or was it the other way around? Nonsense, anyway.

Ooooh. Pastis. Now there's a winter drink I adore that I have sorely neglected this season. Cheers bucko!

(And it's Pastis over ice of course, you heathen... : rollseyes: )

Wailin · 13-12-2020 03:47PM

Cazale wrote: »

Less of that now. Saying that I have the proper 12 ready for next Sunday when the Dubs win. I find diluting it with the tears of the other 31 counties really helps it.

BonnieSituation · 13-12-2020 04:04PM

Cazale wrote: »

Tesco have some stocks of MVR 2020. One near me getting six on Tuesday. I'm not saying which one! Strictly one per customer so hopefully nobody ends up with 12 or 80 shared among a few as we have seen in this thread.

Interesting, it's like their rarity value is about to take a smack to the head.

EagererBeaver · 13-12-2020 04:22PM

Was in a new shop that has opened up round my way and saw two Japanese whiskeys I'd never heard of. One was a blend that was completely new to me, Akashi. Other one was a Nikka, an "All Malt".

Anyone ever come across either of them?

Ivefoundgod · 13-12-2020 04:23PM

dobman88 wrote: »

I saw a cryptic tweet that said what started in 2013 is coming soon, watch this space. But didn't hear it was whiskey. Would make sense tho

Further info here, 7 year old selling for €200 :eek:

https://twitter.com/dickmackspub/status/1338116993556344834?s=21

Cazale · 13-12-2020 04:29PM

Ivefoundgod wrote:

Further info here, 7 year old selling for â‚¬200

745 bottles of it.

Paul Weller · 13-12-2020 04:30PM

Wouldn't touch it tbh

Cazale · 13-12-2020 04:33PM

EagererBeaver wrote:

Was in a new shop that has opened up round my way and saw two Japanese whiskeys I'd never heard of. One was a blend that was completely new to me, Akashi. Other one was a Nikka, an "All Malt".

Had the All Malt a few years ago in the Dylan bar Kilkenny. It's a blend. Can't remember too much of the specifics but I do remember enjoying it.

dobman88 · 13-12-2020 04:45PM

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Further info here, 7 year old selling for €200 :eek:

https://twitter.com/dickmackspub/status/1338116993556344834?s=21

:eek: :eek:

I won't have to worry about sourcing a bottle at that price anyway. Jaysus.

Cazale · 13-12-2020 06:33PM

Another release

Irishmalts.com are proud to announce the release of Dingle Founding Fathers Cask No 479 – Heaven’s Kiss – the first ever Founding Fathers release to feature Pot Still Whiskey, bottled at Cask Strength. This cask yielded 248 bottles at 60.9%.

This is Pot Still Irish Whiskey matured exclusively in an ex-Bourbon Cask at Dingle Distillery and is exclusively available on Irishmalts.com.

€170

Cazale · 13-12-2020 06:43PM

Wailin wrote:

It's all good lads. On another note, come on the Deise! If they win I'll be opening my bottle of Dair Ghaelach and ringing in sick

Enjoy work!

ZV Yoda · 13-12-2020 07:51PM

Cazale wrote: »

Less of that now. Saying that I have the proper 12 ready for next Sunday when the Dubs win. I find diluting it with the tears of the other 31 counties really helps it.

Post of the year!

I was wondering where you were going with that comment. Talk about a big memorable finish (not something usually associated with Proper 12).

Electric Nitwit · 13-12-2020 07:56PM

Cazale wrote: »

Tesco have some stocks of MVR 2020. One near me getting six on Tuesday. I'm not saying which one! Strictly one per customer so hopefully nobody ends up with 12 or 80 shared among a few as we have seen in this thread.

Do you mind me asking how you found out? Was it just a useful manager or member of staff?

I've visited and phoned all the big ones in South Dublin and no one has a clue what the story is, they're useless!

Rew · 13-12-2020 07:58PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

A bottle of whiskey is approximately 60% water anyway, surely these oils and tannins would be on the surface anyway?

The gist of it is the effect is greater with more dilution but you're also dilute the things that give the flavour so its not as simple as chucking in loads of water. At the higher %'s the flavourful molecules are held in the liquid so it's more stable and not easily lost to the air. So it's a balance between all those things. The reality is if you enjoy it then you're doing it right and also you shouldn't be afraid to try adding water to see if you enjoy it more.

This is the write up of the research https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-06423-5

Cazale · 13-12-2020 08:42PM

Electric Nitwit wrote:

Do you mind me asking how you found out? Was it just a useful manager or member of staff?

A fella I know is good at sniffing out hard to find whiskey. They had them in Naas on Friday. All gone now. They weren't on the shelf so you had to ask for them. You need to find someone who works in the off license part. The rest are useless.

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