What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

G rock · 12-12-2020 10:38PM

John/Micheal Collins

BonnieSituation · 12-12-2020 10:59PM

L1011 wrote: »

Got Aldi's slightly dearer bourbon today (20 quid VAT cut down to 19.66 or something like that) and it says Bottled in Ireland on it - wonder who's doing that; and is it potentially part of a convoluted deal to get casks for re-use? Buy the entire cask, flog the bourbon off and don't have to bother dealing with finding empties.

That's interesting.

What's it like anyway? I've never dabbled in the German bourbons. Could do with one on the shelf for cocktails.

BonnieSituation · 12-12-2020 11:06PM

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Having a Jameson and ginger today with a wedge of lime, tasty enough and a nice alternative to a G & T as a long drink over ice. Which got me thinking, are there any other whiskey long drinks people recommend? I generally stick to neat whiskey or g & ts if I'm in the humour for a nice refreshing drink, aside from that I'd only ever make whiskey sours/old fashioneds with whiskey. Anything I'm missing out on?

When it comes to cocktails I tend to stick in the bitter range of them.

Faves are manhattans, old fashioned and obviously not whiskey based but negronis are my favourite.

As above, a John Collins is a great way to "lengthen" your whiskey sour. Mmm... Salivating here.

odyssey06 · 12-12-2020 11:10PM

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Having a Jameson and ginger today with a wedge of lime, tasty enough and a nice alternative to a G & T as a long drink over ice. Which got me thinking, are there any other whiskey long drinks people recommend? I generally stick to neat whiskey or g & ts if I'm in the humour for a nice refreshing drink, aside from that I'd only ever make whiskey sours/old fashioneds with whiskey. Anything I'm missing out on?

That's a version of a whiskey highball.
Club soda is sometimes used as the mixer instead of ginger ale.
There's also red lemonade, cola, 7up as options.

JD and Coke (or a bourbon like Jim Beam) is a very popular combination.

7 and 7 for example is originally 7up and Seagrams Seven Crown canadian whisky.
Blended Scotch or Canadian whisky with orange soda (e.g. Club Orange) has a bite to it.

If I want a long drink pick me up, I like a mixer of 1/3 ginger ale, 2/3 cola, lime and whiskey or rum.

Effects · 12-12-2020 11:27PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

At some stage, people have made alcohol out of pretty much anything, so, no doubt, someone in Ireland at some point made alcohol from potatoes but I have no idea where the commonly held idea that Irish poitín was made from potatoes comes from.

I know someone who used to make “potato wine” back in the 90s. I’ll ask him exactly what was in it. He’s been distilling wines he’s made in more recent years, but wouldn’t have been doing that back in the 90s.

Ivefoundgod · 12-12-2020 11:33PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

When it comes to cocktails I tend to stick in the bitter range of them.

Faves are manhattans, old fashioned and obviously not whiskey based but negronis are my favourite.

As above, a John Collins is a great way to "lengthen" your whiskey sour. Mmm... Salivating here.

Cheers, the John Collins sounds nice allright, will give that a go.

odyssey06 wrote: »

That's a version of a whiskey highball.
Club soda is sometimes used as the mixer instead of ginger ale.
There's also red lemonade, cola, 7up as options.

JD and Coke (or a bourbon like Jim Beam) is a very popular combination.

7 and 7 for example is originally 7up and Seagrams Seven Crown canadian whisky.
Blended Scotch or Canadian whisky with orange soda (e.g. Club Orange) has a bite to it.

If I want a long drink pick me up, I like a mixer of 1/3 ginger ale, 2/3 cola, lime and whiskey or rum.

I think I got the Jameson and Ginger idea from a Jameson web ad of some description but can't remember.

JD and coke just reminds me of a misspent youth to be honest, can't touch the stuff these days without feeling a bit sick.

7 and 7 sounds interesting. Thanks for the suggestions!

BonnieSituation · 12-12-2020 11:38PM

I always just assumed Jameson and ginger was a standard issue drink in the JD and coke/7n7 range.

And not forgetting Jameson and Red. That being said, got that litre bottle of Powers yesterday and it will definitely be consumed over the holiday period with some TK Red and loads of ice. Definitely one of my favourite drinks.

Ivefoundgod · 12-12-2020 11:44PM

No idea to be honest, since I got past my early 20s I've never really drank whiskey with anything other than water or ice and I haven't put ice in a whiskey in years. My go to drink over ice is G & T.

As a student I used to love JD and coke and I have vague memories of liking Southern Comfort and red at one time or another.

odyssey06 · 12-12-2020 11:44PM

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

I think I got the Jameson and Ginger idea from a Jameson web ad of some description but can't remember.
JD and coke just reminds me of a misspent youth to be honest, can't touch the stuff these days without feeling a bit sick.
7 and 7 sounds interesting. Thanks for the suggestions!

Jameson ginger and lime - big marketing push on that. I remember billboards for it and at summer events like Taste of Dublin you could get it for a fiver!
You can even pick it up in Tesco etc premixed in cans.

killbillvol2 · 12-12-2020 11:46PM

Jameson (substitute any Irish) and ginger was a standard. Then Jameson decided to market it, adding the lime. I was at a Jameson Film Club event a few years ago where they were dishing it out (as well as Jameson Whiskey Sours which were excellent).

Ivefoundgod · 12-12-2020 11:48PM

Ah that explains that so. I'd have known about brandy and ginger allright but not whiskey.

Bass Reeves · 12-12-2020 11:59PM

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Having a Jameson and ginger today with a wedge of lime, tasty enough and a nice alternative to a G & T as a long drink over ice. Which got me thinking, are there any other whiskey long drinks people recommend? I generally stick to neat whiskey or g & ts if I'm in the humour for a nice refreshing drink, aside from that I'd only ever make whiskey sours/old fashioneds with whiskey. Anything I'm missing out on?

Irish whiskey especially good Irish whiskey's should be mixed with literally a single drop or two of water. The ideal way to put it in is with a straw. Put a straw in water and put your finger on top of the straw. By lightly shaking the straw a single drop of water will drop into your whiskey.

There is complex tannins and oils in Irish whiskey. This releases these and bring them to the top of the whiskey. It opens up the flavours and taste of the whiskey. It often make the whiskey taste stronger especially some of the better whiskey's

BonnieSituation · 13-12-2020 12:05AM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Jameson (substitute any Irish) and ginger was a standard. Then Jameson decided to market it, adding the lime. I was at a Jameson Film Club event a few years ago where they were dishing it out (as well as Jameson Whiskey Sours which were excellent).

Oh aye. Big marketing push with Jameson alright, but it was definitely a "normal" or standard issue drink in my teens and 20s.

Ivefoundgod · 13-12-2020 12:32AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Irish whiskey especially good Irish whiskey's should be mixed with literally a single drop or two of water. The ideal way to put it in is with a straw. Put a straw in water and put your finger on top of the straw. By lightly shaking the straw a single drop of water will drop into your whiskey.

There is complex tannins and oils in Irish whiskey. This releases these and bring them to the top of the whiskey. It opens up the flavours and taste of the whiskey. It often make the whiskey taste stronger especially some of the better whiskey's

Riiiiiight :rolleyes:

killbillvol2 · 13-12-2020 12:54AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Irish whiskey especially good Irish whiskey's should be mixed with literally a single drop or two of water. The ideal way to put it in is with a straw. Put a straw in water and put your finger on top of the straw. By lightly shaking the straw a single drop of water will drop into your whiskey.

There is complex tannins and oils in Irish whiskey. This releases these and bring them to the top of the whiskey. It opens up the flavours and taste of the whiskey. It often make the whiskey taste stronger especially some of the better whiskey's

It also helps to ripen the smell of bullsh1t.

Paul Weller · 13-12-2020 01:03AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Irish whiskey especially good Irish whiskey's should be mixed with literally a single drop or two of water. The ideal way to put it in is with a straw. Put a straw in water and put your finger on top of the straw. By lightly shaking the straw a single drop of water will drop into your whiskey.

There is complex tannins and oils in Irish whiskey. This releases these and bring them to the top of the whiskey. It opens up the flavours and taste of the whiskey. It often make the whiskey taste stronger especially some of the better whiskey's

I actually find its better to venture out into the centre of the nearest lake as dawn breaks, and catch 2 drops of morning dew from a lilly

Bass Reeves · 13-12-2020 01:46AM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

It also helps to ripen the smell of bullsh1t.

Try it sometime you will be surprised

dinorebel · 13-12-2020 01:51AM

L1011 wrote: »

Got Aldi's slightly dearer bourbon today (20 quid VAT cut down to 19.66 or something like that) and it says Bottled in Ireland on it - wonder who's doing that; and is it potentially part of a convoluted deal to get casks for re-use? Buy the entire cask, flog the bourbon off and don't have to bother dealing with finding empties.

More importantly what's it like?

daRobot · 13-12-2020 01:51AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Irish whiskey especially good Irish whiskey's should be mixed with literally a single drop or two of water. The ideal way to put it in is with a straw. Put a straw in water and put your finger on top of the straw. By lightly shaking the straw a single drop of water will drop into your whiskey.

There is complex tannins and oils in Irish whiskey. This releases these and bring them to the top of the whiskey. It opens up the flavours and taste of the whiskey. It often make the whiskey taste stronger especially some of the better whiskey's

You're spot on. Told the same by a distiller on a tour. Not about the straw thing, but one or two drops of water.

L1011 · 13-12-2020 01:56AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

That's interesting.

What's it like anyway? I've never dabbled in the German bourbons. Could do with one on the shelf for cocktails.

dinorebel wrote: »

More importantly what's it like?

Less harsh than the 15 quid stuff, more front notes to it on the tongue - but I'd still use it with mixers. Which is what I bought it for.

interlocked · 13-12-2020 02:54AM

If you want to talk about ridiculous prices, I mean I know it's marketing, but who's going to spend this money on a unprovenanced whiskey?

https://www.celticwhiskeyshop.com/Dublin%20Liberties%20King%20of%20Hell%20No.%204%2027%20Year%20Old%20Single%20Malt

killbillvol2 · 13-12-2020 03:03AM

daRobot wrote: »

You're spot on. Told the same by a distiller on a tour. Not about the straw thing, but one or two drops of water.

Which distillwr told you that the only way to drink whiskey was by adding drops of water?

Wailin · 13-12-2020 03:16AM

Thats not what he said in fairness. It's well known adding a few drops of water can help to open up a whiskey and release certain flavours.

Samuri Suicide · 13-12-2020 03:19AM

Scapa skiren. One of my favourites. Smooth and light especially with a drop of water. Very easy to share with a friend. ðŸ˜‰

flended12 · 13-12-2020 09:03AM

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Having a Jameson and ginger today with a wedge of lime, tasty enough and a nice alternative to a G & T as a long drink over ice. Which got me thinking, are there any other whiskey long drinks people recommend? I generally stick to neat whiskey or g & ts if I'm in the humour for a nice refreshing drink, aside from that I'd only ever make whiskey sours/old fashioneds with whiskey. Anything I'm missing out on?

Have you tried a jameson and cranberry, those in the know call it a jemberry.

I've given it to so many whiskey fans and before tasting it they laugh and ridicule, some even threaten violence.

But usually their reaction after first sip is a confused look and immediately go after another mouthful.

The comment is usually 'jaysis that's dangerous, I wasnt expecting that...'.

Try it for yourself. Whiskey, cranberry juice, ice.

OldRio · 13-12-2020 10:45AM

Paul Weller wrote: »

I actually find its better to venture out into the centre of the nearest lake as dawn breaks, and catch 2 drops of morning dew from a lilly

Stunning. Just stunning. Choked on my coffee reading that.

Mellor · 13-12-2020 10:57AM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Which distillwr told you that the only way to drink whiskey was by adding drops of water?

It's an extremely common way to drink whiskey. Not specific to Irish.
The "only" way is hyperbole obviously

EagererBeaver · 13-12-2020 11:01AM

Mellor wrote: »

It's an extremely common way to drink whiskey. Not specific to Irish.
The "only" way is hyperbole obviously

I think the umbrage is more with the original post that the word "drops" be taken literally.

the beer revolu · 13-12-2020 11:12AM

Wailin wrote: »

Thats not what he said in fairness. It's well known adding a few drops of water can help to open up a whiskey and release certain flavours.

I think the ire was because the poster stated that this is the way Irish whiskey should be drunk.
Personally, I like a little drop of water in most whiskies - I find it dilutes it slightly.

This poster inferred that anyone doing differently to them is doing it wrong. That's just bullshlt.

The poster suggested that the correct way to do this is with a straw - there are many ways to add your required amount of water. I think most people are aware that you can dispense liquid with a straw. No one needs this patronising, detailed mansplaining.

The poster then went on about tannins and oils, even inferring that this is somehow unique to Irish whiskey. This is often spoken about and is basically rubbish. Adding water dilutes the liquid, this causes the flavour compounds to gather on the surface. The lower the abv (up to a point) the more this happens.
So, the drop of water that you add does exactly the same thing as the water that is added to the whiskey prior to bottling. Why would this water behave any differently to the water in the bottle?
A bottle of whiskey is approximately 60% water anyway, surely these oils and tannins would be on the surface anyway?

The post was not only arrogant and patronising, it was mostly wrong, too.

Oh, and someone else confirmed this bs by saying that they were told it on a tour. Well.......?
Whiskey tours are notoriously full of misinformation, legends and lies!

killbillvol2 · 13-12-2020 11:54AM

What he said ^^^^^

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