Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

PARlance · 06-12-2020 05:54PM

Tommy points, some lad.

PressRun · 06-12-2020 05:55PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Dublin will be looking at this and licking their lips at all the goal chances we have coughed up.

It's not good at all. If Tipp's finishing was any better they'd be making hay. And Dublin will have that finishing.

seligehgit · 06-12-2020 05:55PM

Conroy is ridiculously good.

We've really switched off in the second half.

paddy no 11 · 06-12-2020 05:56PM

Surely a tough tackling colm Boyle is worth 35 mins versus some of the other backs

charlie14 · 06-12-2020 05:57PM

Well that didn`t take long to put to bed and almost an hour before the first wide.
Goal chances will be a bit of a worry but maybe the way to beat the Dubs is a Brazil "score what you like, we will still outscore you".

naughto · 06-12-2020 05:58PM

Or shooting has being top notch

PressRun · 06-12-2020 05:59PM

naughto wrote: »

Or shooting has being top notch

Forward play has been excellent. Haven't seen Cillian play like this since about 2013.

Fann Linn · 06-12-2020 06:00PM

Score doesn't look too bad now.

seligehgit · 06-12-2020 06:00PM

Leeroy has been driving with a second yellow for quite a while.

PARlance · 06-12-2020 06:01PM

Very sloppy at the back this half, O'Hora not making a case for himself.

km79 · 06-12-2020 06:03PM

PARlance wrote: »

Very sloppy at the back this half, O'Hora not making a case for himself.

I don’t think he can be raised against Dublin
We haven’t seen enough from him

Still
5-20 will win most games

PressRun · 06-12-2020 06:05PM

We won't score that much against Dublin and our defending was so so poor.

franklyon · 06-12-2020 06:05PM

Don't know what to make of that. Happy with the win of course but if we defend like that we don't have a hope. 3 goals conceded and it could have been another 3 if it wasnt for some poor finishing and David Clarke

yop · 06-12-2020 06:06PM

I'm not sure what to make of that. Unbelievably good up front.
Back line though wow. Could have been 5 more goals.

Euphoriasean · 06-12-2020 06:09PM

Attacking play was phenomenal. We certainly have a soft centre. To be fair Tipp spent the whole of the second half going for goals only so they were bound to create some,more than I would have liked but game was done and dusted at HF.

Great for the county to have an All Ireland to look forward to for the next 2 weeks. Cant wait for it whatever happens.

Mantis Toboggan · 06-12-2020 06:11PM

Well done to Mayo far the better team, best of luck in that final.

That's a serious full forward line, I like the look of Conroy looks quality. Obviously need to tighten up at the back but that full forward line is your best weapon vs Dublin. O'shea could do damage if he gets the right ball. You'll need goals if you're to have any chance.

Fr Tod Umptious · 06-12-2020 06:12PM

That's exactly what I wanted to see.

Just like Donegal in 2013 and Roscommon in 2017 they just opened a can of whoop ass on them.

The conceding 3-13 is a worry. But most of it was in what the yanks call "garbage time".

They did concede those two chances early on, and another was scored, but they seemed to tighten up after that first Tipp goal.

I'd hope that tightening up is closer to the real state of them rather than the last 20 mins or so.

yop · 06-12-2020 06:14PM

U win it regardless.
Mayo won't fear Dublin. It can hardly be as loose in the final.
Conroy was pure quality.

PressRun · 06-12-2020 06:19PM

Have never felt less optimistic after such a comprehensive win. Our forward play was lovely and fluid at times, our turnovers, work rate and tackling all great. One of the best Cillian O'Connor performances I've ever seen from him, maybe one of the best scoring displays in Croke Park ever?

That said, that defence is absolutely porous. Would love to know how many goal chances Tipp actually had, had to be about 10 at least. Dublin will convert those. 3-13 is not a good score to be conceding for how in control we were and it could have been a lot more.

Still think we are having huge problems on our own kickout, we were out-fielded in the middle again. Fenton could go on the absolute rampage there the next day. It's very concerning.

Don't think Dublin will let Cillian have the run of the place the next day either and historically have been able to handle him fairly well.

Happy to see them win, but would be very concerned about the final.

corny · 06-12-2020 06:49PM

PressRun wrote: »

Have never felt less optimistic after such a comprehensive win. Our forward play was lovely and fluid at times, our turnovers, work rate and tackling all great. One of the best Cillian O'Connor performances I've ever seen from him, maybe one of the best scoring displays in Croke Park ever?

That said, that defence is absolutely porous. Would love to know how many goal chances Tipp actually had, had to be about 10 at least. Dublin will convert those. 3-13 is not a good score to be conceding for how in control we were and it could have been a lot more.

Still think we are having huge problems on our own kickout, we were out-fielded in the middle again. Fenton could go on the absolute rampage there the next day. It's very concerning.

Don't think Dublin will let Cillian have the run of the place the next day either and historically have been able to handle him fairly well.

Happy to see them win, but would be very concerned about the final.

Not here to make you optimistic but i'd be the exact opposite if I was a Mayo supporter. The one thing this team had to prove was could they make proper use of possession, take the right options in the attacking zone and rack up a score. They did that and I wouldn't underestimate the importance of proving that to themselves.

Whelan is right about the defence. They didn't respect Tipp and chose to try overwhelm them around the middle. That won the game but no way would they be that cavalier against Dublin.

Clarke's kickouts are a very obvious point of difference though!

PressRun · 06-12-2020 07:14PM

corny wrote: »

Not here to make you optimistic but i'd be the exact opposite if I was a Mayo supporter. The one thing this team had to prove was could they make proper use of possession, take the right options in the attacking zone and rack up a score. They did that and I wouldn't underestimate the importance of proving that to themselves.

Whelan is right about the defence. They didn't respect Tipp and chose to try overwhelm them around the middle. That won the game but no way would they be that cavalier against Dublin.

Clarke's kickouts are a very obvious point of difference though!

The forward play was impressive, but I do think Dublin have proven they can stifle that in the past. Dublin backs have had very good days on O'Connor and Aidan O'Shea, they know how to play both, imo. I also don't think our problems at midfield are going to be solved before the next day.

Apparently we conceded 9 clear cut goal chances, not including those where players were pulled down outside the box. When you compare it to Dublin, who are barely conceding even a squeak of a goal chance in their games, those numbers are not good at all.

seligehgit · 06-12-2020 07:33PM

PressRun wrote: »

The forward play was impressive, but I do think Dublin have proven they can stifle that in the past. Dublin backs have had very good days on O'Connor and Aidan O'Shea, they know how to play both, imo. I also don't think our problems at midfield are going to be solved before the next day.

Apparently we conceded 9 clear cut goal chances, not including those where players were pulled down outside the box. When you compare it to Dublin, who are barely conceding even a squeak of a goal chance in their games, those numbers are not good at all.

I agree the Corny that there was to a degree of complacency in the way ( lack of respect ) in the way they set up defensively.However same was directly the real concerns re the contest in the middle.

No excuse though.

Totally agree re Dublin's proven ability to ultimately deal with Aidan and Cillian as they've a bagful of celtic cross medals ( mindful Cillian is in his best shape in years ) however Tommy Conroy have an x factor that we simply have not had in years.

For such a young lad thus far no occasion has phased him.

Blackjack · 06-12-2020 07:47PM

Wonder what the narrative will be the next time we meet Tipp
“5 lucky goals”
“Overtly reliant on O’Connor”
“Lucky saves by the goalkeeper”
Etc

PressRun · 06-12-2020 07:48PM

seligehgit wrote: »

I agree the Corny that there was to a degree of complacency in the way ( lack of respect ) in the way they set up defensively.However same was directly the real concerns re the contest in the middle.

No excuse though.

Totally agree re Dublin's proven ability to ultimately deal with Aidan and Cillian as they've a bagful of celtic cross medals ( mindful Cillian is in his best shape in years ) however Tommy Conroy have an x factor that we simply have not had in years.

For such a young lad thus far no occasion has phased him.

Agreed on Conroy. He had a great game and adds something we previously haven't had.

I also don't mean to sound overly pessimistic. It was a great forward display, one we haven't seen since about 2013 and it was all very reminiscent of that day, especially Cillian's performance. I just do think there are major concerns too and I think Dublin ultimately are a finished article that will go about their business in a much more clinical way than what Tipp were able to do today.

Green&Red · 06-12-2020 07:48PM

seligehgit wrote: »

I agree the Corny that there was to a degree of complacency in the way ( lack of respect ) in the way they set up defensively.However same was directly the real concerns re the contest in the middle.

No excuse though.

Totally agree re Dublin's proven ability to ultimately deal with Aidan and Cillian as they've a bagful of celtic cross medals ( mindful Cillian is in his best shape in years ) however Tommy Conroy have an x factor that we simply have not had in years.

For such a young lad thus far no occasion has phased him.

Wonder how many black/red card offences Johnny Cooper will be allowed before getting his yellow?

seligehgit · 06-12-2020 07:51PM

km79 wrote: »

No point analyzing the second half
But we did give up three In first quarter too
Horan ball in full effect today

That's indeed his philosophy.

We can never be accused of not playing on the front foot/right way.

I think we'll be much more cagey/conservatively set up the next day to nullify the game running away from us early in the contest.

This team is ideal for counter attacking with their pace.

Disappointed Higgins and most especially Carr did not get a run out.

Darren Coen blew hot today.

I thought Conor Loftus did a lot of good work today but how to plan for Fenton?

happyoutscan · 06-12-2020 08:09PM

seligehgit wrote: »

Darren Coen blew hot today.

His shooting from distance could be huge against Dublin. The worry though is there is no middle ground with Darren, he's either very hot or very cold.

PressRun · 06-12-2020 08:14PM

seligehgit wrote: »

how to plan for Fenton?

Major question with no clear answer. We don't have anyone to match his physicality and mobility in the middle imo. One of the best fielders I've ever seen, if not the best. Plus he scores.

PARlance · 06-12-2020 09:46PM

Was Cillian's 4-9 officially the highest individual score?

C__MC · 06-12-2020 09:50PM

PARlance wrote: »

Was Cillian's 4-9 officially the highest individual score?

Think so previously held by fermamaghd rory Gallagher 3.9 v Monaghan in 02,

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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