Irritating American names for things

Stateofyou · 05-12-2020 9:56pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

read the rest of my post.

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Yes ...erm i edited it ..then asked you to re read it.

As you can see, that is a lie. You can't be taken seriously. Judging by the sheer amount of your posts in such a short amount of time, I can see it's quantity over quality which is just a waste of time.

ILoveYourVibes · 05-12-2020 10:02pm

Stateofyou wrote: »

As you can see, that is a lie. You can't be taken seriously. Judging by the sheer amount of your posts in such a short amount of time, I can see it's quantity over quality which is just a waste of time.

This is an example of someone attacking a poster under the visage of attacking what they are saying.

You are not attacking points.

But simply my right to post at all.

You are incorrect in your facts.

YES NFQ level six qualifications here are considered associate degrees in the states and much of the EU.

I didn't lie one in my posts to you.

The Institutes of Technology operate a unique system which allows students to progress from two year Higher Certificate programmes (NFQ Level 6 /Associate Degree equivalent programmes) to Ordinary degree (NFQ Level 7 ) and Honours degree ( NFQ Level 8 ) level.

https://euroguidance.ie/higher-education-system-ireland

From a site putting the Irish education system into the context of a european framework.

I hope this clears it up for you.

So the poster Pastuer was correct it is VERY possible to have a qualification in Ireland that is not considered a degree and find out in America that you have an associated degree.

You were wrong to tell him that it doesn't work that way.

Stateofyou · 05-12-2020 10:02pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

You are going way out on a tangent here.

The original comment was it was annoying that americans call qualifications degrees that we do not.

Someone said he learnt he had gone to the states and said he was surprised to learn he had a degree.

You said it didn't work like that.

He and I have said we have direct experience of it being JUST like that.

Obv we HAVE worked in the states.

you are the one going on about most irish people etc and derailing the thread.

None of what you are saying is relevant to that point.

You picking apart various posts also is not relevant to that point.

Yes it does work like that. Some qualifications here ..are considered associate degrees in the states.

NFQ level 6 is an associates degree.

More disingenuous posting. You are the one who said "most Irish people" have experience with the US, and that it should ring a bell for me as we're a nation of immigrants. Then you edited your post after I replied. You also claimed you said something that I quite easily proved that you didn't-just so you could try to make a point where you didn't have one. Very bizarre manner of posting.

Also, the other poster did not say he had an NFQ level 6 qualification, saying they didn't even open a book.

If you have a qualification that you're looking to use for getting hired or to enter a university in the states, it very much depends on what you earned here and whether they will deem it an equivalency. It is in no way automatic and that is my direct experience and also of friends of mine too.

Stateofyou · 05-12-2020 10:04pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This is an example of someone attacking a poster under the visage of attacking what they are saying.

You are not attacking points.

But simply my right to post at all.

You are incorrect in your facts.

YES NFQ level six qualifications here are considered associate degrees in the states and much of the EU.

I didn't lie one in my posts to you.

https://euroguidance.ie/higher-education-system-ireland

From a site putting the Irish education system into the context of a european framework.

I hope this clears it up for you.

NO. Nite nite. You can continue on to meet your quota of daily posts, this is tiresome. You can disingenuously argue with yourself now.

ILoveYourVibes · 05-12-2020 10:04pm

Stateofyou wrote: »

You also claimed you said something that I quite easily proved that you didn't-just so you could try to make a point where you didn't have one. Very bizarre manner of posting.

Its like talking to the mad hatter. lol

Stateofyou · 05-12-2020 10:05pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its like talking to the mad hatter. lol

Very apt self-assessment. Have a good nite.

ILoveYourVibes · 05-12-2020 10:07pm

Stateofyou wrote: »

Very apt self-assessment. Have a good nite.

You keep saying goodnight ..but don't leave.

Baggly · 05-12-2020 10:08pm

Stateofyou wrote: »

Very apt self-assessment. Have a good nite.

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its like talking to the mad hatter. lol

Mod

Well that wasnt fun for anyone. Both of you can take a week off from the thread.

ILoveYourVibes · 05-12-2020 10:08pm

Liberal Arts.

Actually the term liberal for leftest.

the_pen_turner · 05-12-2020 10:09pm

kidos . this drives me mad.

Baggly · 05-12-2020 10:11pm

kudos?

Electric Sheep · 05-12-2020 10:12pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

State of you have you DONE of these 'associate degrees '??

My understanding is they are way over priced anyway.

Your understanding is incorrect.

the_pen_turner · 05-12-2020 10:23pm

Baggly wrote: »

kudos?

Kiddos , as in children

HeyV · 05-12-2020 11:28pm

Being ‘shook’ and ‘obsessed’...
And dogs being called pupper, doggo, puppeh

New Home · 05-12-2020 11:29pm

The habit that a lot of people have of ending every sentence with an upwards intonation, making everything they say sound like it ends with a question mark. I know it's crept into Ireland, too, especially among the younger generations, but I find it quite irritating. I wonder whether did use it to mean "you know?" without actually saying it.

pappyodaniel · 06-12-2020 1:23am

New Home wrote: »

The habit that a lot of people have of ending every sentence with an upwards intonation, making everything they say sound like it ends with a question mark. I know it's crept into Ireland, too, especially among the younger generations, but I find it quite irritating. I wonder whether did use it to mean "you know?" without actually saying it.

Australians are pretty bad at this also.

New Home · 06-12-2020 1:44am

And Canadians.

Capt'n Midnight · 06-12-2020 2:27am

The didn't make a hash of the sharp symbol - #

dxhound2005 · 06-12-2020 9:08am

New Home wrote: »

The habit that a lot of people have of ending every sentence with an upwards intonation, making everything they say sound like it ends with a question mark. I know it's crept into Ireland, too, especially among the younger generations, but I find it quite irritating. I wonder whether did use it to mean "you know?" without actually saying it.

It may have crept out of Ireland into America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rising_terminal

Although it is characterized in Britain as "Australian question intonation" (AQI) and blamed on the popularity of Australian soap operas among teenagers, HRT is also a feature of several Irish-English dialects, especially in mid-Ulster and Belfast English.[citation needed]

Gaoth Laidir · 06-12-2020 9:55am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The didn't make a hash of the sharp symbol - #

That's another thing; why do they call the # on a phone the "pound sign"? Caught me out the first time I heard it. I made a hash of the call...

dxhound2005 · 06-12-2020 10:06am

To avoid confusion you should call it an octothorpe:) It was a question on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire one time.

The official name of the number sign, the one located at the bottom right hand corner of phone keypads and used to label hashtags on social media, is octothorpe. Also called a hash or a pound sign, the symbol has roots in 14th century Latin.

New Home · 06-12-2020 12:39pm

Why 'octo', though, considering it has nine spaces/square and not eight?

EDIT: Mystery solved (from www.dictionary.com.

What is the # symbol called?

4: The octothorpe. It’s the official name for the # symbol, but what does it mean? It’s actually a made-up word, invented in the same laboratories where the telephone came from. The scientists at Bell Laboratories modified the telephone keypad in the early 1960s and added the # symbol to send instructions to the telephone operating system. Since the # symbol didn’t have a name, the technicians thought one up. They knew it should be called octo- something because it had eight ends around the edge. What happened next is not entirely clear. According to one report, Bell Lab employee Don MacPherson named it after the Olympian Jim Thorpe. Another former employee claims it was a nonsense word, meant as a joke. Another unverifiable report is much more etymologically satisfying: The Old Norse word thorpe meant “farm or field,” so octothorpe literally means “eight fields.”

1: The pound sign. This name came to be because the symbol comes from the abbreviation for weight, lb, or libra pondo, literally “pound by weight,” in Latin. When writing “lb,” scribes often crossed the letters with a line across the top, like a t.

2: The number sign. This phrase arose in Britain because pound sign could easily be confused with the British currency. And of course, the # symbol is sometimes spoken as the word “number,” as in “#2 pencil.”

3: The hashtag. The word hash predates these other names (but wasn’t very popular until recently). A hash has referred to stripes on military jackets since as early as 1910. But, in the 1980s, people started using hash to refer to the # symbol. Since the ascent of social media and its new prominence in everyday life, hashtag has become the favored name.

How else has the # symbol been used?

Similar symbols appear in many other places. Musicians recognize # as the sharp symbol, denoting a note one half step higher. Copy editors see a symbol meaning “space,” as in “add a space between two sentences.” In computer code, the # symbol means that everything that follows is only comment, not instruction.

dxhound2005 · 06-12-2020 1:03pm

That's one for Google. Another one which catches people out sometimes is the prefix Tetra, which means Four.

The Continental Op · 06-12-2020 1:05pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

That's one for Google. Another one which catches people out sometimes is the prefix Tetra, which means Four.

Thought that was a fish? Always wondered why there was no fish in a Tetrapak?

Pasteur. · 08-12-2020 9:43am

Insane

That was an insane performance right there

Gwynplaine · 08-12-2020 10:48am

Lidderally. Wadder. Budder. Axed.
And their stupid way of writing down the date.

764dak · 08-12-2020 11:51pm

Pasteur. wrote: »

Insane

That was an insane performance right there

Insanse isn't a noun.

Pasteur. · 09-12-2020 6:30am

764dak wrote: »

Insanse isn't a noun.

I don't follow, but they use the word insane to mean outstanding instead of the traditional meaning

Hamsterchops · 09-12-2020 6:42am

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The official name of the number sign, the one located at the bottom right hand corner of phone keypads and used to label hashtags on social media, is octothorpe. Also called a hash or a pound sign.

Also called a pound sign

Not in Ireland or Britain...

This is the pound sign £
This is the Euro sign €
This is the dollar sign $
This is number/hash sign #

Hangdogroad · 09-12-2020 8:28am

Dope, as a slang term for something good. "That sh!t is dope". Beyond irritating.

Gaoth Laidir · 09-12-2020 9:25am

On the flip-side, imagine an American (or any other nationality) trying to decipher this Irish English phrase:

"Me mammy put the messages in the press"

dxhound2005 · 09-12-2020 11:23am

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Also called a pound sign
Not in Ireland or Britain...

This is the pound sign £

That is just a recent development of something which goes back hundreds of years. People who want to fix language usage to match what is done in their own lifetimes, fail to appreciate what happened to get the language where it is. And will fail in their futile pursuit to stop it evolving.

1: The pound sign. This name came to be because the symbol comes from the abbreviation for weight, lb, or libra pondo, literally “pound by weight,” in Latin. When writing “lb,” scribes often crossed the letters with a line across the top, like a t.

Hamsterchops · 09-12-2020 12:41pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

That is just a recent development of something which goes back hundreds of years. People who want to fix language usage to match what is done in their own lifetimes, fail to appreciate what happened to get the language where it is. And will fail in their futile pursuit to stop it evolving.

1: The pound sign. This name came to be because the symbol comes from the abbreviation for weight, lb, or libra pondo, literally “pound by weight,” in Latin. When writing “lb,” scribes often crossed the letters with a line across the top, like a t.

Yeah, that's all very well and good, but for the purposes of this thread regarding irritating Americanisms in Ireland may I suggest that this # would not be considered the pound sign. Maybe in the States? but not here....

Wibbs · 09-12-2020 1:20pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

On the flip-side, imagine an American (or any other nationality) trying to decipher this Irish English phrase:

"Me mammy put the messages in the press"

Or a little worse "me mammy is after putting the messages in the press"

scrips · 09-12-2020 10:37pm

I know it's part of the evolution of language, but it does irritate me to hear new Americanisms creeping in to everyday speech in Ireland.

'Seniors' for the elderly

'Power outages' for power cuts, that we also used to call black-outs, and

'I'm good' (as a response to How are you?) When someone says they're 'good' I feel like saying, 'I'll be the judge of that'. (Admittedly, Americans find 'grand' odd as a description of how you are.)

Some American English phrases however are less clunky than our own phrases for the same concept, and are probably here to stay. Now, I'm done.

COVID · 09-12-2020 10:42pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Or a little worse "me mammy is after putting the messages in the press"

That's even worser.

whisky_galore · 09-12-2020 10:42pm

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Dope, as a slang term for something good. "That sh!t is dope". Beyond irritating.

Something "dropped" on Netflix. I hope it wasn't damaged.

764dak · 09-12-2020 11:37pm

scrips wrote: »

'Power outages' for power cuts, that we also used to call black-outs, and

A 1994 episode of Friends is called "The One with the Blackout."
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0583579/

It seems like they mainly use "blackouts" for large-scale power cuts.
https://worldenglishteacher.com/meaning-blackout-vs-power-outage
https://homegenerators.cummins.com/backup-power/types-of-power-outages
https://www.techopedia.com/definition/13085/power-outage

Electric Sheep · 10-12-2020 5:12am

scrips wrote: »

'Seniors' for the elderly

I like Seniors very much. So much more respectful than 'the elderly' or even worse 'OAPs'.

Of course your preferred terminology will reflect your attitude to older citizens.

Sky King · 10-12-2020 7:24am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

On the flip-side, imagine an American (or any other nationality) trying to decipher this Irish English phrase:

"Me mammy put the messages in the press"

Hiberno-English for Americans. Q5. Comprehension.

Mary: You wouldn't run down to the shop for a few messages?

Bob: I fukin will, yeah!

1. Does Bob actually to the shop?
2. How likely is it would run there?
3. What was he asked to do?

The J Stands for Jay · 10-12-2020 7:37am

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Yeah, that's all very well and good, but for the purposes of this thread regarding irritating Americanisms in Ireland may I suggest that this # would not be considered the pound sign. Maybe in the States? but not here....

Yes, not here. We'd rather use the Americanism "hash".

11-12-2020 9:20pm

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Bobbins · 11-12-2020 9:29pm

scrips wrote: »

I know it's part of the evolution of language, but it does irritate me to hear new Americanisms creeping in to everyday speech in Ireland.

'Seniors' for the elderly

'Power outages' for power cuts, that we also used to call black-outs, and

'I'm good' (as a response to How are you?) When someone says they're 'good' I feel like saying, 'I'll be the judge of that'. (Admittedly, Americans find 'grand' odd as a description of how you are.)

Some American English phrases however are less clunky than our own phrases for the same concept, and are probably here to stay. Now, I'm done.

Yes! I have to agree. If I hear one more parent (I include my own husband in this) saying to their children: 'good job' with an American inflection , I think I might scream 😬 What's wrong with 'well done'?!

Other than that I don't really find American terminology irritating if used by an American, impersonators on the other hand.....

Stateofyou · 12-12-2020 9:24am

Gwynplaine wrote: »

Lidderally. Wadder. Budder. Axed.
And their stupid way of writing down the date.

Fedder (feather), beef sah-ayy (beef satay), tree (3), stah (star), wedder (weather) and the widespread misuse of the word "been" for being. And if you're from Monaghan, saying hi or hey after greeting someone- "well what's the craic hi." Or the heavy use of the word "like" in some parts. And the gasp or taking in of air to convey that you agree. Wtf. :pac:

New Home · 12-12-2020 10:32am

^^^
American?

Stateofyou · 12-12-2020 10:44am

New Home wrote: »

^^^
American?

To illustrate the point, we pronounce or say things in an irritating or ridiculous manner as well....

dxhound2005 · 12-12-2020 11:06am

Bobbins wrote: »

Yes! I have to agree. If I hear one more parent (I include my own husband in this) saying to their children: 'good job' with an American inflection , I think I might scream 😬 What's wrong with 'well done'?!

Other than that I don't really find American terminology irritating if used by an American, impersonators on the other hand.....

It's a good job they don't say Nice Going or Great Work. Going back to a previous one, I would usually say Not Bad rather than Good in response to an enquiry about my well being. How's Things? Not Bad. Although I think the "American" Good, probably comes from the Irish Go Maith. Conas atá tú? Go Maith.

Wibbs · 12-12-2020 12:50pm

Sky King wrote: »

Hiberno-English for Americans. Q5. Comprehension.

Mary: You wouldn't run down to the shop for a few messages?

Bob: I fukin will, yeah!

1. Does Bob actually to the shop Store?
2. How likely is it would run there?
3. What was he asked to do?

Slight change there SK. To an American a shop is a a workshop, a store a shop. Though "Store" like "Mom" is increasingly in use here. Elongate the vowel for full effect. Stoooore, moooom

The Continental Op · 12-12-2020 12:52pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Slight change there SK. To an American a shop is a a workshop, a store a shop. Though "Store" like "Mom" is increasingly in use here. Elongate the vowel for full effect. Stoooore, moooom

I've always associated the word Store with the big old Department Stores but then as you can see I've fallen into the trap of using another American name for things.

nj27 · 12-12-2020 12:57pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

On the flip-side, imagine an American (or any other nationality) trying to decipher this Irish English phrase:

"Me mammy put the messages in the press"

I liked using Irish idioms in America to see the reaction. “How are ya! What are ya at?” is a good one, usually got a reply of “uh where am I at? I’m at home”.

Irritating American names for things

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