Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users

AllForIt · 04-12-2020 04:57PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I care little about the whole fat thing and certainly not either ripping into the overweight, nor the right on pimping "fat acceptance". It doesn't affect me either way tbh. None of my beeswax really.

I'd be the opposite. I think fat shaming is disgusting but noting new, just dicks being dicks. On the other hand I think the fat acceptance thing is an beyond nuts and is prolly one of the most serious wokeism's of them all.

I think to say to young people with a weight problem that you shouldn't bother doing anything about it because it's just too hard and unachievable anyway, is reprehensible. The multitude of negative effects of being overweight don't really kick in until you're ~40+ so it's easy to see how a young person who is overweight but feels fine would suck that up.

They intentionally turn a health issue into a social issue (i.e. it's just about how ppl regard those overweight) and as long as you feel good about yourself inside that's all that matters. The reality is obesity is a huge problem and sugar tax and other measures are on the way inevitably, so it's no surprise there is some movement against all that, and it's a cheap physiological one at that. The irony is you won't feel good about yourself as much as you might if your're unhealthy or even sick.

I know one can live a long life and be overweight in the same way smokers can (in some cases) and one should have the right to consume what they want. I'm not preaching here, I'm just saying to start a movement to put ppl off doing something about it where they otherwise might be minded to, is what boils my nut.

I may ridicule the vast majority of woke ideas here but that one I'll argue against to the death.

km991148 · 04-12-2020 05:00PM

CountNjord wrote: »

Is there many woke knobs out there.

I never did understand that ice bucket challenge thing, almost a baptism of stupidity.
Actually a lot of people I know who poured a bucket of water and ice over their heads were woke boloxes, and if you add up all those bucket's of water you'd probably have enough water to quench the thirst of a lot of children for a few days in a region lacking clean water.

The sheer stupidity and ignorance of these cnuts wasting water all over the world.

Stupid pricks

You've been sitting on that one for six and a half years? :pac:

Gervais08 · 04-12-2020 05:02PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I am being very facetious, I have no issue with fat people at all.

The issue for me is that why are people with full control over their lives not doing the most they can to improve it? I understand if you work as a Sumo Wrestler in Tokyo - it is your job to be overweight. You also get a pass if you have a medical condition - I am not that much of a chunt - but if you think that it is cool to not bother and sit like a sloth because it is not fair to tell you otherwise, it personifies the dangers of how woke culture and cancel culture have negatively influenced quite normal natural human selection techniques such as bullying or slagging off fat people. Most fat bastards get a grip and realise they are the problem, hopefully before their doctor forces them onto Statins when they are in their phucking 30's?

I don't think it's fair but.......

I like chocolate and beer and don’t give a **** about my “external locus”.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 04-12-2020 05:04PM

km991148 wrote: »

You've been sitting on that one for six and a half years? :pac:

I can't wait to hear his opinions on vuvuzelas at the World Cup.

Cordell · 04-12-2020 05:06PM

CountNjord wrote: »

if you add up all those bucket's of water you'd probably have enough water to quench the thirst of a lot of children for a few days in a region lacking clean water.

It's like I tell my kids, eat up, there are children out there starving and you are being fussy about what you get while they get nothing. So far, they never challenged me as "so if I eat will they stop starving?"

IAMAMORON · 04-12-2020 05:11PM

Cordell wrote: »

It's like I tell my kids, eat up, there are children out there starving and you are being fussy about what you get while they get nothing. So far, they never challenged me as "so if I eat will they stop starving?"

Don't panic, they will.

CountNjord · 04-12-2020 05:15PM

km991148 wrote: »

You've been sitting on that one for six and a half years? :pac:

I know, it's been getting free rent in my head for ages, I never bothered doing it.
Just didn't make sense,to pour ice and cold water over my head for a charitable cause then there's a fecking water crisis and people thirsty for clean water.

WTF, woke me arse.

These cnuts all over Facebook guilt shaming people into being stupid pricks like them.

I'm glad this forum is about the sheer hypocrisy of the woke cnuts, because I don't debate these narcissists, because like strident sceptics and woo people I'd be like a pig enjoying rolling around in the sh11T

IAMAMORON · 04-12-2020 05:15PM

Gervais08 wrote: »

I like chocolate and beer and don’t give a **** about my “external locus”.

Please do , it is a fundamental human right to pig out.

But watch yourself too. The last thing you need is to spend the last 30 years of your life ingesting insulin 5 times a day with an inch long needle that looks like a pen that James Bond uses... not good. That is before the Statin withdrawals kick in.

Life is all about choices.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 04-12-2020 05:21PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Please do , it is a fundamental human right to pig out.

But watch yourself too. The last thing you need is to spend the last 30 years of your life ingesting insulin 5 times a day with an inch long needle that looks like a pen that James Bond uses... not good. That is before the Statin withdrawals kick in.

Life is all about choices.

Life us all about having the choices in the first place.

And according to the CEO of Nestlé, clean water isn't a right so how could pigging out be?!

Strumms · 04-12-2020 05:24PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

1.3 billion over 20 years is insignificant, it's bordering on loose change ffs.

Direct provision is a shambles, but it hasn't bankrupted this country or anything like it. Irish people have historically traveled and settled all over the world, we are in no position to start Donald fúcking Trumping over immigrants.

We should be letting a certain number of people in and then we should be treating them a lot better than we do.

Direct provision hasn’t bankrupted the county. That’s not being suggested, anywhere. It has very much limited the help and assistance from health to other needs that people here have needed...

We’ve settled, for the most part, internationally...legally, worked, earned and paid back.

If I want say to go to the US post covid to live... if I’m told that I don’t qualify for whatever reason.... for a working visa or whatever means of staying there... I’m... “ok, your country, your choice, your rules, your decision”... I’m not owed anything by them.

I’m not of the mind to believe we owe anyone else anything, apart from the taxpayers on our own shores... then when we are able... YES.. we can and do...help... should be OUR call...as to how and when we can.

DrPhilG · 04-12-2020 05:32PM

Criticising the wisdom of glorifying a gargantuan woman on the cover of Cosmo = fat shaming, you're going to social media hell.

Speaker Pelosi calling Donald Trump morbidly obese (he's fat but nowhere near morbidly obese) = "slay Queen, yeah!"

Kivaro · 04-12-2020 05:43PM

upandcumming wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJUyPjguq6E

Brilliant clip. "Entitlements: The root of the problem".
Almost a quarter of a billion Euros spent on Direct Provision in 2020 alone .................. Houston, we have a problem.

But it is a woke cause célèbre, so we should only expect that the asylum seeker budget to increase in the coming years. By the way, have ye heard about the increase in waiting times for scoliosis surgeries in Ireland? Irish children have to wait in excruciating pain and hope that the intolerable delays will not cause permanent damage to them. Or the reports today in the news about the mental health services for our elderly in Ireland? It is seriously under-resourced and need "urgent improvement". There is only half the mental health beds required to meet the needs of our elderly. So, I guess that the other half (our parents, grandparents etc.) will just do without.

That €1/4 billion for Direct Provision in 2020 could dramatically improve the situation for those two segments in Irish society, the young and the old, but unfortunately it is not a liberal/progressive/woke cause, so those vulnerable segments will just have to wait.

Wibbs · 04-12-2020 05:50PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Life is all about choices.

I would be of the general opinion that in many ways that's an illusion and our choices can be limited enough throughout life for all sorts of reasons. Now ehat we do with choices we are given...

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

There is a reason why Hollywood is mostly liberal mindset: artists tend not to like non-artists telling them what the should and shouldn't do with their art.

Not really. Only a handful of the artists in Hollywood have final cut and final say. They're "told what to do" all the time by the money men. The sheer costs and huge number of people involved guarantee that. Hollywood filmmakers can only be auteurs if their films are dirt cheap and get a return(Woody Allen) or wildly successful so they've made enough bank for the studios to finance any possible losses(Spielberg), or both(Eastwood).

I'd say it's more a generational thing in those working within it.

Take Star Wars as a thing that's been going since the 1970's. George Lucas(Spielberg too) is an American war baby, a boomer, brought up shaped by the "golden years" of the American century and the shadow cast by that war the TV comics and other narratives of his generation who were looking for their own archetypes and shaped by his university years. So the first Star Wars reflects that. It's a very White middle class suburban boomer flic looking back to the fight against the nazis, war movies with dogfights in the air, a big injection of Japanese influence, 50's cowboy flics and an attempt to build an American set of archetypes. Lucas spent years delving into the theory of storytelling and archetypes before he came up with that script.

Fast forward to the latest instalments. They're written and directed and produced by 80's and 90's kids, generation Xrs for the most part, brought up on postmodernism, with a large sideorder of the right on US college campuses they attended and you end up with a very different result that appears to be wearing the same clothes. Add in a massive dollop of this cost us a packet to buy so let's push all the sales buttons. Hence the first one in the trilogy is a near scene by scene rehash of the original. Then followed by the postmodernist, archetypes are old hat and worthless instalment, followed by the christ that last one was crap so let's get back to basics and cut our losses. Not realising or acknowledging why the middle one was crap.

Lucas' original though flawed effort tapped into a near universal archetype and storytelling tradition*. One that a decent storyteller could rattle out around a campfire a couple of thousand years ago and it would still work. That's why the latter ones don't work nearly so well and will fade as rapidly as they came along.

Plus the audience expectation, especially among the now middle aged who were captivated the first time can never be satisfied.

*though the protagonist in the latest does go old style, in that rather than being the Mary Sue that she's accused of being, she's much more a Disney princess, a Cinderella of the space age. Perfect out of the box, all she needs to to find her golden slippers to shine, aided by various fairy godmothers.

Strumms · 04-12-2020 06:06PM

Kivaro wrote: »

Brilliant clip. "Entitlements: The root of the problem".
Almost a quarter of a billion Euros spent on Direct Provision in 2020 alone .................. Houston, we have a problem.

But it is a woke cause célèbre, so we should only expect that the asylum seeker budget to increase in the coming years. By the way, have ye heard about the increase in waiting times for scoliosis surgeries in Ireland? Irish children have to wait in excruciating pain and hope that the intolerable delays will not cause permanent damage to them. Or the reports today in the news about the mental health services for our elderly in Ireland? It is seriously under-resourced and need "urgent improvement". There is only half the mental health beds required to meet the needs of our elderly. So, I guess that the other half (our parents, grandparents etc.) will just do without.

That €1/4 billion for Direct Provision in 2020 could dramatically improve the situation for those two segments in Irish society, the young and the old, but unfortunately it is not a liberal/progressive/woke cause, so those vulnerable segments will just have to wait.

Truth, that just what’s happening, put accurately and succinctly.

Dear Mr/Mrs lifetime taxpayer.

While we acknowledge that during your 30 years working, you’ve paid in the region of 600,000 in income tax..., however, we have realized that you are actually in need of an investment in healthcare of 10,000 euros, for a spell in Doolaghs Park Physical Rehab center in Balgriffin.

However, due to pressure and intimidation on behalf of the wokies, we will instead need to invest available funding for encouraging and helping those seeking asylum here...

- a jacuzzi in Baleskin reception center

- a further clothing allowance to cover the ability of the procurement of designer brands and labels

- a taxi allowance so buses are not required.

- an entertaining and entertainment allowance including golf club memberships.

Furthermore I’d like to thank you for your application for funding with most sincerity and wish you every luck and success, obtaining the 10,000 euro investment to get your health back. Unfortunately your government and country is unab... sorry unwilling to help you, as our priorities only really extend to pleasing the wokies who like our tax payers money to be invested in people from outside Ireland, and handsomely too “.

Yours sincerely...

Paul Reid
HSE

04-12-2020 06:18PM

Geuze wrote: »

Irish Times article:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/does-ireland-have-a-diveristy-problem-at-third-level-1.4416678#.X8YR78zm-ac.twitter

Does Ireland have a diveristy problem at third level?
A new report shows there is just one full-time black female academic professor in Irish academia

Note that the vast majority of lecturers are not professors.

I love how it's phrased as a question - "Does Ireland have a diversity problem at third level?"

As if there is a snowballs chance in hell they might conclude "No".

I think the perfect response, to borrow from Douglas Murray, is to counter such claims about our countries being racist by asking "compared to what?".

The people screaming racism have a duty of naming the country that meets the gold standard of tolerance and equality.

biko · 04-12-2020 06:23PM

When your wokeness means you fear dissidents more than people that can hurt your children.

Strumms · 04-12-2020 06:47PM

biko wrote: »

When your wokeness means you fear dissidents more than people that can hurt your children.

His profile says that he studied and was awarded a ‘BS’... not surprised.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 04-12-2020 08:43PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I would be of the general opinion that in many ways that's an illusion and our choices can be limited enough throughout life for all sorts of reasons. Now ehat we do with choices we are given...

Not really. Only a handful of the artists in Hollywood have final cut and final say. They're "told what to do" all the time by the money men. The sheer costs and huge number of people involved guarantee that. Hollywood filmmakers can only be auteurs if their films are dirt cheap and get a return(Woody Allen) or wildly successful so they've made enough bank for the studios to finance any possible losses(Spielberg), or both(Eastwood).

I'd say it's more a generational thing in those working within it.

Take Star Wars as a thing that's been going since the 1970's. George Lucas(Spielberg too) is an American war baby, a boomer, brought up shaped by the "golden years" of the American century and the shadow cast by that war the TV comics and other narratives of his generation who were looking for their own archetypes and shaped by his university years. So the first Star Wars reflects that. It's a very White middle class suburban boomer flic looking back to the fight against the nazis, war movies with dogfights in the air, a big injection of Japanese influence, 50's cowboy flics and an attempt to build an American set of archetypes. Lucas spent years delving into the theory of storytelling and archetypes before he came up with that script.

Fast forward to the latest instalments. They're written and directed and produced by 80's and 90's kids, generation Xrs for the most part, brought up on postmodernism, with a large sideorder of the right on US college campuses they attended and you end up with a very different result that appears to be wearing the same clothes. Add in a massive dollop of this cost us a packet to buy so let's push all the sales buttons. Hence the first one in the trilogy is a near scene by scene rehash of the original. Then followed by the postmodernist, archetypes are old hat and worthless instalment, followed by the christ that last one was crap so let's get back to basics and cut our losses. Not realising or acknowledging why the middle one was crap.

Lucas' original though flawed effort tapped into a near universal archetype and storytelling tradition*. One that a decent storyteller could rattle out around a campfire a couple of thousand years ago and it would still work. That's why the latter ones don't work nearly so well and will fade as rapidly as they came along.

Plus the audience expectation, especially among the now middle aged who were captivated the first time can never be satisfied.

*though the protagonist in the latest does go old style, in that rather than being the Mary Sue that she's accused of being, she's much more a Disney princess, a Cinderella of the space age. Perfect out of the box, all she needs to to find her golden slippers to shine, aided by various fairy godmothers.

Haven't seen any of the recent Star Wars far, so can't comment.

But my point was: any time there's an election on or a referendum, hollywood never supports the republican/conservative. They are liberal in that they support diversity and alternative communites (probably a little too much in some cases) as these are the ones that offer the more interesting stories.

Also - for better or for worse - conservatist thing has a tendency to be associated with censorship, which is soemthing Hollywood will generally opppose.

growleaves · 04-12-2020 09:03PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

There is a reason why Hollywood is mostly liberal mindset: artists tend not to like non-artists telling them what the should and shouldn't do with their art.

At present, liberals place obligations and group expectations on artists much more often than the right.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 04-12-2020 09:09PM

growleaves wrote: »

At present, liberals place obligations and group expectations on artists much more often than the right.

I hope you're not mistaking the woke crowd for liberals? There's nothing "liberal" about them.

IAMAMORON · 04-12-2020 09:16PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I would be of the general opinion that in many ways that's an illusion and our choices can be limited enough throughout life for all sorts of reasons. Now ehat we do with choices we are given...

Agreed, like democracy gives us all the illusion of having a choice.

Lets' call it what it is, a series of sacrifices which we cannot evaluate the connotations of until long thereafter.

But half a loaf is better than no bread , we have it fairly handy all things considered? I would rather be cold, poor and on the shelf, than a misplaced Oranguthan or a soldier in the Ethiopian civil war.

Cracking into the beers now. Thank Crunchie.

Wibbs · 04-12-2020 09:26PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Haven't seen any of the recent Star Wars far, so can't comment.

You're not missing much

But my point was: any time there's an election on or a referendum, hollywood never supports the republican/conservative.

That's a relatively recent thing though P. Post the 80's for the most part. Hollywood was only too happy to have your Rambos and Arnies being pretty gung ho conservative.

They are liberal in that they support diversity and alternative communites (probably a little too much in some cases) as these are the ones that offer the more interesting stories.

Again not really. Alternative communities very rarely get a look in(and beyond a frisson of exoticism alternative communities either have a good story or they don't). Most Hollywood fare that sells these days is pretty basic comic high concept type stuff. Sure they'll throw in a few glamorexic women overpowering men, but... And that's purely for sales as the trend for American women to buy cinema tickets went up. They won't be doing the sequel of lady Ghostbusters any time soon because it tanked. The vast majority of their output doesn't support diversity. It's mostly White with a few Black and Asians dropped in. Anything else is art house stuff with small budgets and limited release.

Also - for better or for worse - conservatist thing has a tendency to be associated with censorship, which is soemthing Hollywood will generally opppose.

Hollywood has been steeped in self censorship since the Hays Code days, when the money's right. Today they're still at it. The Chinese market and by extension the Chinese government are the strong influences today. They changed scripts, plots, characters and scenes in Iron man, Bohemian Rhapsody, Skyfall, World war Z among many others to avoid the censure of Chinese officaldom and the one billlion strong potential bums on seats. Well Chinese audiences are conservative, aren't keen on "the Gay", aren't keen on Black characters, don't like any criticism of China and don't want unconventional looking women up on screen. It's all about the money. If actual nazis took over the US and it was clear they would be the new bums on seats Hollywood would be off remaking Triumph of the Will.

Wibbs · 04-12-2020 09:30PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I hope you're not mistaking the woke crowd for liberals? There's nothing "liberal" about them.

Well I find a sure sign of how you can spot the "woke" and indeed the "right" is how so very sensitive to criticism they are. They take themsleves and their credo far too seriously for that and any critique no matter how well considered will be seen as heresy and the speech of the heretic, the enemy. This is especially true in the current US(and imported from there) identity politics. They'll even bite at their bedfellows if they're not ardent and faithful enough.

Alejandro68 · 04-12-2020 09:38PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I hope you're not mistaking the woke crowd for liberals? There's nothing "liberal" about them.

They are quite liberal in the BS they spout.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 04-12-2020 09:38PM

Wibbs wrote: »

You're not missing much

That's a relatively recent thing though P. Post the 80's for the most part. Hollywood was only too happy to have your Rambos and Arnies being pretty gung ho conservative.

I am pretty much going on the modern(ish) era.

Again not really. Alternative communities very rarely get a look in(and beyond a frisson of exoticism alternative communities either have a good story or they don't). Most Hollywood fare that sells these days is pretty basic comic high concept type stuff. Sure they'll throw in a few glamorexic women overpowering men, but... And that's purely for sales as the trend for American women to buy cinema tickets went up. They won't be doing the sequel of lady Ghostbusters any time soon because it tanked. The vast majority of their output doesn't support diversity. It's mostly White with a few Black and Asians dropped in. Anything else is art house stuff with small budgets and limited release.

In the past, yes, but that seen is changing a bit. The old white men no longer hold the power they had in the past due to the publicaitons of the actions of people like Harvey Wienstien and alleged actions of Kevin Spacey. Also, the LGBT community no longer has to hide away abd bow down to the moral right.

Ellen/Elliot page would never have been able to come out and keep his/her career twenty/thirty years ago.

Hollywood has been steeped in self censorship since the Hays Code days, when the money's right. Today they're still at it. The Chinese market and by extension the Chinese government are the strong influences today. They changed scripts, plots, characters and scenes in Iron man, Bohemian Rhapsody, Skyfall, World war Z among many others to avoid the censure of Chinese officaldom and the one billlion strong potential bums on seats. Well Chinese audiences are conservative, aren't keen on "the Gay", aren't keen on Black characters, don't like any criticism of China and don't want unconventional looking women up on screen. It's all about the money. If actual nazis took over the US and it was clear they would be the new bums on seats Hollywood would be off remaking Triumph of the Will.

This I accept, but again: it's more about the earnings and appealing to as wide a community as possible than a political stance. Censorship happens more due to morality and ethic violations than to effect financial earnings.

And in order to put "bums on seats" you have to not piss the bums off in the first place.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 04-12-2020 09:44PM

Alejandro68 wrote: »

They are quite liberal in the BS they spout.

How so?

Rothko · 04-12-2020 09:56PM

Wibbs wrote: »

You're not missing much

That's a relatively recent thing though P. Post the 80's for the most part. Hollywood was only too happy to have your Rambos and Arnies being pretty gung ho conservative.

I haven't seen it in a long time but was Rambo really conservative? From what I remember, it was pretty much an anti-war movie with the titular character suffering with PTSD from Vietnam.

Wibbs · 04-12-2020 09:59PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

In the past, yes, but that seen is changing a bit. The old white men no longer hold the power and the LGBT community no longer has to hide away abd bow down to the moral right.

Ellen/Elliot page would never have been able to come out and keep his/her career twenty/thirty years ago.

Watch their career going forward. As it is it's mostly TV based which is more flexible, but still. I spy with my little eye token Trans at best. Kirsten Stewart another one. Came out as Gay(or Bi, can't recall), bloody good actress, way more range than Page, has screen presence and had a huge fanbase out of the fey vampire flics(and on my unreconstructed male part find damned attractive), but the casting director list got shorter after her coming out and after things like Charlie's Angels which was pretty "woke" tanked... And that's Gay women, who tend to get more of a "pass" generally. Out and proud Gay men headliners in Hollywood? Vanishingly few. Name one. Most either go to working behind the scenes or to TV after they come out, or the roles kinda dry up.

This I accept, but again: it's more about the earnings and appealing to as wide a community as possible than a political stance.

And in order to put "bums on seats" you have to not piss the bums off in the first place.

So because Chinese audiences and the government won't allow criticism, don't like LGBT characters, Black characters, too many "strong" women(unless they're Chinese), that's appealing to a community and not political? When you have two people that couldn't be farther apart in politics and outlook like US attorney general(and muppet) William Barr and Richard Gere both raising serious concerns about how China's government is influencing Hollywood that's someting to note and of note. It's not appealing to audiences, it's pandering to them and their government. They kept Gays and Blacks and Asians(and relegated women to stereotypes) off cinema screens for decades for that same reason.

Wibbs · 04-12-2020 10:03PM

Rothko wrote: »

I haven't seen it in a long time but was Rambo really conservative? From what I remember, it was pretty much an anti-war movie with the titular character suffering with PTSD from Vietnam.

The first one was. Then it went huge and then it was Vietnam vet killing commies for Jesus and The American Way. The final nail in the coffin flic could have been written by trump the way it portrayed Mexicans.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 04-12-2020 10:16PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Watch their career going forward. As it is it's mostly TV based which is more flexible, but still. I spy with my little eye token Trans at best. Kirsten Stewart another one. Came out as Gay(or Bi, can't recall), bloody good actress, way more range than Page, has screen presence and had a huge fanbase out of the fey vampire flics(and on my unreconstructed male part find damned attractive), but the casting director list got shorter after her coming out and after things like Charlie's Angels which was pretty "woke" tanked... And that's Gay women, who tend to get more of a "pass" generally. Out and proud Gay men headliners in Hollywood? Vanishingly few. Name one. Most either go to working behind the scenes or to TV after they come out, or the roles kinda dry up.

Career or otheriwse, would they have been able to do it decades ago?

So because Chinese audiences and the government won't allow criticism, don't like LGBT characters, Black characters, too many "strong" women(unless they're Chinese), that's appealing to a community and not political? When you have two people that couldn't be farther apart in politics and outlook like US attorney general(and muppet) William Barr and Richard Gere both raising serious concerns about how China's government is influencing Hollywood that's someting to note and of note. It's not appealing to audiences, it's pandering to them and their government. They kept Gays and Blacks and Asians(and relegated women to stereotypes) off cinema screens for decades for that same reason.

It's appealing to the finances, not the audiences.

Also, the generally make edited versions for different audiences. The movie that's seen in China is not usually the one you see in Europe, for example.

And again - I'm not talking what happened decades ago. If the Chinese control Hollywood, movies like Milk or Brokeback Mountain would have been scrapped on site. The XMen series carries a massive acceptance theme too. ("So, Bobby... have you tried NOT being a mutant?")

Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

Comments

Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users