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Football Manager 2021

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  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭505_


    A good few years since I got the game on or near release. But I enjoyed 19 and 20 and with the lockdown may get this on release. Not overly enthused by the new features. Couldn't care for body language when I get the assistant to deal with the media as much as i can. Bigging up an end of season review as new feature doesn't inspire confidence either. The scouting meetings look good. Have seen Miles on Twitter talking about the challenges of producing the game during the pandemic so hopefully the game hasn't suffered too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Has much changed since 20? I usually get it every year when it releases, but i felt last was just a little too copy/paste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Has much changed since 20? I usually get it every year when it releases, but i felt last was just a little too copy/paste.

    BETA hasn't been released yet but only a few small changes predicted


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Didn't really bother with 20, but might give 21 a good run out, especially with the lockdowns.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Belt


    Havent played in years but lockdown is encouraging me to get back in to it. What sort of a laptop would be needed to run it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Teothican


    ordered it just there from CDKEYS for 30e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The BETA should be released in the next week or 2 hopefully

    Thinking of starting in the English League 1 or 2


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 Regis779


    I ordered Football Manager 2021 from here on a discount (typically buy games here), since I own all the games of the series, feels like I should have it even if it may not offer anything ground-breaking in terms of innovation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Beta will be released tonight according to Sports interactive


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  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Teothican


    the BETA has being dropped


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Bought the touch version but no sign of the beta ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Teothican


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Bought the touch version but no sign of the beta ?

    touch beta has being delayed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭DM_2092


    What are peoples thoughts so far? I'm only at my intra-squad friendly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Teothican wrote: »
    touch beta has being delayed

    ****e, hopefully it be out soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    Anyone any experience of playing 20 on Google Stadia?

    Was tempted to pick one up to play 21, although I see there's been no official confirmation of a Stadia Version this year as of yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    ****e, hopefully it be out soon

    https://community.sigames.com/topic/531417-release-date-on-touch-delayed-until-1st-december/

    A Sports interactive employee responded and confirmed there will be no touch beta

    They claim it was never advertised as Beta but people are calling them out on it that FMT always had beta's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Unearthly wrote: »
    https://community.sigames.com/topic/531417-release-date-on-touch-delayed-until-1st-december/

    A Sports interactive employee responded and confirmed there will be no touch beta

    They claim it was never advertised as Beta but people are calling them out on it that FMT always had beta's

    Damn it anyway

    Doubt ill be able to get a refund and buy the full version with the Beta included ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Damn it anyway

    Doubt ill be able to get a refund and buy the full version with the Beta included ?

    It would probably depend whether you have redeemed the code in Steam yet. If not, then contact the seller and ask for a refund. Most would be willing to I'd imagine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Unearthly wrote: »
    It would probably depend whether you have redeemed the code in Steam yet. If not, then contact the seller and ask for a refund. Most would be willing to I'd imagine

    got it sorted

    used the cost of touch to buy the full version


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    So I picked Deportivo La Coruna. Back to back promotions now I'm 3rd in La Liga after 6 games

    Game seems easy. For a while I used a 5212 WB formation with high pressing and positive mentality. This worked until January of 2nd season when my form collapsed. Changed to a basic 442 and scraped into playoffs for promotion

    In La Liga I'm using the default 4231 gegenpressing and winning a few games 3 or 4 nil. My team is not great, a mixture of journeyman freebies, rejected youngsters from the top teams and a few loans from top teams

    The Match UI takes a lot to get used to and has a few annoying things like a pass map that gets comically cluttered making it useless. The hand gestures as predicted is just a replacement for the tone of your messages. Recruitment meetings are not that useful to me. Still rather do it on my own. End of season highlights is pretty much what it's always been just packaged together in slides form

    Yeah so not that different from before but thankfully the set pieces and players shooting into side net instead of cut backs is toned down a lot. Also strikers much better at finishing. Xg is a useful addition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Playing a west brom beta save myself, apart from a few visual bugs (resolution funnies, player comparison data blacked out, short pass map in games etc.) it's been probably the most stable beta I've been on for FM over the years. Most of the updates are nice licks of paint and making features that were already there nicer to use, and then the match engine improvements, which are a welcome pleasant surprise. The passing in game is fairly drastically different, through balls are now a real thing, diagonal balls or early crosses have made a couple of appearances too and then some shooting mechanics feel a bit different. Not too keen on the dugout in games yet, it'll take some getting used to. And removing %s where they can is a good thing imo, makes things a bit less clinical and precise which is a good thing imo...

    Oh and finding results as west brom suitably mixed, playing a 523 with a libero (Ivanovic) in the middle at the back and supporting inverted wingers or inside forwards depending on the mood. Grabbed 34 Lasse Schone in on a free and he's been a revelation in the middle of the park (for an absolute max of 60mins per game)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Rebel Rebel


    Just finished my first full season with Brackley in the National League North, got 102 points and finished Second! Boston finished on 105.

    Hope fully the play-off will be kind.

    Lost 2-3 to Gateshead in the playoff semi final, ending a 20 game unbeaten run at home.

    On the upside i did win the FA Trophy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Just finished my first full season with Brackley in the National League North, got 102 points and finished Second! Boston finished on 105.

    Hope fully the play-off will be kind.

    Lost 2-3 to Gateshead in the playoff semi final, ending a 20 game unbeaten run at home.

    On the upside i did win the FA Trophy

    102 and not getting promoted is the worst example of getting FM'd ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Managing Salford City now in League 2 and only 3 league games in, undefeated by 1 win and 2 draws. The Papa John and league cup games were a disaster

    Find it harder to sign players in the lower leageus


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭blockfighter


    tgdaly wrote: »
    Anyone any experience of playing 20 on Google Stadia?

    Was tempted to pick one up to play 21, although I see there's been no official confirmation of a Stadia Version this year as of yet


    Mate of mine has put over 300 hours in on Stadia version. So I'm guessing he likes it. I plan on picking this years version today on Stadia. Bye bye free time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭barryribs


    Picked it up today and played an hour or so. Some nice changes from last year, not sure about the commentary match interface yet. I did notice that I got a mail telling me at odds of 50-1 that I was expected to far in the champions league though.

    Also, new badge packs are worse than what was there originally


  • Registered Users Posts: 810 ✭✭✭fermanagh_man


    Match engine is so much better, players actually square the ball instead of shooting from crazy angles.

    Still not to keen to new team talk, press conference layout

    Started in non league with cruzon Ashton as my FM20 hero Matty Waters plays for them, he used to average 20+ assists from LB each season.
    Won league easily by 34 points in first season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭davyboy1975


    Loving the new game seems faster in between matches. Playing since beta came out just finished first season with liverpool.
    Just signed upemecano donnaruma and depay on free transfers.

    The new speak to agent feature is quality letting u know what they would look for before u put in a bid.

    The brexit rules in the uk make it harder to sign the old wonderkids though which is a downside as you cant develop them yourself and get the pleasure of them becoming world beaters


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    On the new agent feature, I'm not sure if I'm imagining it but it feels like there's a risk associated with it? If you talk to them and they tell you what the player wants that's then locked in, vs if you just take a punt you can normally negotiate away most of the annoying requests?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    What's the view on this so far? Only a few games into a new save with Shamrock Rovers so hard to call but first impressions are the gestures thing is just a direct replacement for tone and don't think it is a real improvement. I also don't really like how they have gotten rid of the condition/fitness percentages and replaced them with a smiley face or how they have gotten rid of the player suitability for roles when selecting a starting XI (for example, in previous FMs if you played Shane Duffy as a ball playing centre back it would come up orange but as a no nonsense centre back he would be green).

    Also during the match itself I feel it is harder to swap players around without going into the full tactics screen. Still getting used to it and I suppose it's natural to notice the changes you don't like at first but they're just a few things I feel have been changed for the sake of change.


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Teothican


    What's the view on this so far? Only a few games into a new save with Shamrock Rovers so hard to call but first impressions are the gestures thing is just a direct replacement for tone and don't think it is a real improvement. I also don't really like how they have gotten rid of the condition/fitness percentages and replaced them with a smiley face or how they have gotten rid of the player suitability for roles when selecting a starting XI (for example, in previous FMs if you played Shane Duffy as a ball playing centre back it would come up orange but as a no nonsense centre back he would be green).

    Also during the match itself I feel it is harder to swap players around without going into the full tactics screen. Still getting used to it and I suppose it's natural to notice the changes you don't like at first but they're just a few things I feel have been changed for the sake of change.

    for player suitability roles to show up you can use this skin
    https://www.fmscout.com/a-dark-polish-fm21-skin.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    The percentage fitness thing I guess is to make it a bit more realistic - ie in real life you wouldn't know if a player was on 69% fitness or 61%

    Currently managing Burton Albion which if you're looking for a tough save, then Burton Albion is the one.

    No money, and a squad full of aged 30+ journeymen.

    I basically had to fill out my squad with loans, I looked for a senior affliate to get some of them for free and United were willing to pair with me. Every game I have 5 loans in my starting XI.

    That being said if you can stabilise them, they have state of the art youth and training facilities so in a couple of seasons you could have a factory of youth players.

    I've basically managed to get some great loan signings, which has propelled us into the playoff spots. Although there was a period where I couldn't win a single game!

    There were a few reasons for this I think:
    • We play a very high intensity style so the massive fixture congestion tired out my players and I regularly had to rotate to really poor options
    • We played a lot of the better teams in the league during this period
    • A few bad results and the confidence dropped massively.
    • Part of that run, we played 4 out of 5 games away from home.
    • We were regularly getting a higher xG than the opponent but not converting our chances, and our defense was far too leaky.
    I persevered with my tactic and we have since managed to turn it around, mainly off the back of Man Utd loanee Anthony Elanga being absolutely unstoppable - after getting a chance at striker due to injuries to other players, he has started scoring at an incredible rate. Also, we managed to get some significantly better loans in the Jan transfer window, and Kieran O Hara returned from a broken leg, to replace my rubbish Italian keeper who I brought in on a Free.

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    Unbeaten run which has sent us right back into playoff contention:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Stewball


    Anyone know the cheapest place to buy this?
    I want a hard copy, not a downloaded version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Stewball wrote: »
    Anyone know the cheapest place to buy this?
    I want a hard copy, not a downloaded version.

    Not many places stocking physical versions of PC games these days, I'd just go Amazon if I was looking for physical.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Playing as Hull for my first full-game save and finding it very tough! No money, club starts off in trouble with an expectation to win the league outright... In February now in 7th, 8points of the top and had the dreaded board meeting telling me to buck up :o My team are total outliers on the monthly stats charts, we're quiet and leaky in defence and super aggressive at creating chances without converting much. Oh and the amount of games with an xG 1+ higher than the opposition that I'm losing is killing me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Stewball


    hots wrote: »
    Not many places stocking physical versions of PC games these days, I'd just go Amazon if I was looking for physical.

    I had a look there. £37 but over 2 weeks delivery time.
    Smyths have it for €45.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    hots wrote: »
    Playing as Hull for my first full-game save and finding it very tough! No money, club starts off in trouble with an expectation to win the league outright... In February now in 7th, 8points of the top and had the dreaded board meeting telling me to buck up :o My team are total outliers on the monthly stats charts, we're quiet and leaky in defence and super aggressive at creating chances without converting much. Oh and the amount of games with an xG 1+ higher than the opposition that I'm losing is killing me.

    You want to get yourself a senior affiliate for free loans. Not much good now but for the Summer it's something to ask the board for. I got promoted from League 1 in the end with Burton Albion, mainly through having United as a senior affiliate and Teden Mengi, Anthony Elanga, Ethan Galbraith all coming in on loan with no cost. Mainstays of the team.

    With tactics I've found a few things, pressing is still overpowered (you could argue like real life with Liverpool), and all the things that go with pressing, such as high line of engagement, high defensive line etc all seem to do well in the game. The mezzala position is another which seems super strong in game.

    In my save, we finished top half with Burton in our first championship season, got a takeover (which didnt do much but it did boost the transfer budget from 800k to 6 million), and we just got an offer for the only player with any potential or resale value in the team, Joe Powell, for over 12 million. Left it there last night as not sure if I should sell or not.

    Highly enjoying it this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    You want to get yourself a senior affiliate for free loans. Not much good now but for the Summer it's something to ask the board for. I got promoted from League 1 in the end with Burton Albion, mainly through having United as a senior affiliate and Teden Mengi, Anthony Elanga, Ethan Galbraith all coming in on loan with no cost. Mainstays of the team.

    With tactics I've found a few things, pressing is still overpowered (you could argue like real life with Liverpool), and all the things that go with pressing, such as high line of engagement, high defensive line etc all seem to do well in the game. The mezzala position is another which seems super strong in game.

    In my save, we finished top half with Burton in our first championship season, got a takeover (which didnt do much but it did boost the transfer budget from 800k to 6 million), and we just got an offer for the only player with any potential or resale value in the team, Joe Powell, for over 12 million. Left it there last night as not sure if I should sell or not.

    Highly enjoying it this year.

    Senior affiliate would have been the way to go for sure, I started over wage budget so it's been a struggle. I'm playing wing-play with a target man (433) for my main formation and then a big-man/little-man 442 as my other relatively successful one. My false 9 formation was a car crash.

    That Mengi chap looks class for lower level, keep getting him suggested. Also got taken over but no financial change other than writing off the old guys debts, 6 mil + player sales is a nice chunk of change for mid-table championship!


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    Getting restless waiting for news on whether this is coming to Stadia or not!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭barryribs


    hots wrote: »
    That Mengi chap looks class for lower level, keep getting him suggested. Also got taken over but no financial change other than writing off the old guys debts, 6 mil + player sales is a nice chunk of change for mid-table championship!

    Mengi is great but they are very specific about his position and role. From the previous save I've seen that Utd won't loan anymore players to me if one goes sour. He's head and shoulders above the rest of the squad in terms of quality though - playing as Wimbledon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    barryribs wrote: »
    Mengi is great but they are very specific about his position and role. From the previous save I've seen that Utd won't loan anymore players to me if one goes sour. He's head and shoulders above the rest of the squad in terms of quality though - playing as Wimbledon

    Grabbed Spurs as a senior affiliate myself, but got them in March so no young lads yet. I've got 1 game left in the season with hull and technically could finish second and auto promotion (although need results to go my way) and could finish 7th still and miss the playoffs. My late form has been insane, particularly at home (first time I think I've really noticed a home/away disparity in an FM). Both of my centrebacks and George Honeyman (who was a Sunderland steady-eddy for me last year) are all being touted for player of the year. Oh and the board are still on my back, I'm not even sure if a playoff loss will be enough to keep me in the job!


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭Doublebusy


    Just asking here as i might get a quick response
    What's the best manager game for an android phone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    Doublebusy wrote: »
    Just asking here as i might get a quick response
    What's the best manager game for an android phone


    Isn't FM21 available on android in a condensed mobile mode?

    There's not anything else at the races when it comes to football management games, it has to be FM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    hots wrote: »
    Grabbed Spurs as a senior affiliate myself, but got them in March so no young lads yet. I've got 1 game left in the season with hull and technically could finish second and auto promotion (although need results to go my way) and could finish 7th still and miss the playoffs. My late form has been insane, particularly at home (first time I think I've really noticed a home/away disparity in an FM). Both of my centrebacks and George Honeyman (who was a Sunderland steady-eddy for me last year) are all being touted for player of the year. Oh and the board are still on my back, I'm not even sure if a playoff loss will be enough to keep me in the job!

    Finished 4th to make the playoffs but miss auto-promotion, scraped a 1-1 in the away leg and then battered Lincoln 4-1 in the second to make the final, meanwhile Blackpool (6th) beat Peterborough (3rd) to meet me in the final.

    2-1 up in injury time and I concede a pen :mad: no highglights all the way though extra time... get to the shootout and my players are looking confident (love that feature), I miss my first 2 pens. Manage to pull it back and go to sudden death and de Wijs (CB and eventual league player of the year) bangs home the winner. Actually the best FM game I've had in years I'd say.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    So annoyed, I'm in my second season but all the premier league teams have a bug where they can't register players so they play their U23s. Just smashed Tottennham 6-0 because of this, only solution I can think of is using the editor maybe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    So annoyed, I'm in my second season but all the premier league teams have a bug where they can't register players so they play their U23s. Just smashed Tottennham 6-0 because of this, only solution I can think of is using the editor maybe

    That's a strange one, is it a Beta save that you continued? First time I've heard that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭barryribs


    Haven't encountered this either, I played through to the end of the second year in the premier league without any problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    hots wrote: »
    That's a strange one, is it a Beta save that you continued? First time I've heard that.

    No its the full game.

    Others have experienced the bug aswell, I have sent a ticket to SEGA who asked me to upload my save file.

    Just annoyed as I put a good amount of time in the first season and was looking forward to playing it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Smyths selling at €34.99 at the moment.


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