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Sage Barista Express

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  • #152
    raytaxi
    Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭raytaxi


    Java republic have the express down here's link, others down as well
    https://www.javarepublic.com/shop/barista-express/


  • #153
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    5500 wrote: »
    Will try that, i only ever use premier dairys full fat but will try another brand and see how it goes

    At least it will rule out the milk.


  • #154
    alec76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭alec76


    5500 wrote: »
    Will try that, i only ever use premier dairys full fat but will try another brand and see how it goes
    Try Avonmore milk
    make sure it is FRESH and very cold.


  • #155
    Damo 2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭Damo 2k9


    5500 wrote: »
    Anyone got any tips for me, Im using the express and usually turn it on for bout 10 minutes before using to allow heat up.
    All is well untill it comes to steaming the milk. Originally I was placing the wand tip at the top of the milk for about 20/25 seconds and was happy with the microfoam ect, but the past week something seems up with it.

    I could leave the wand at the tip for 40/50 seconds before dropping to heat up (which also seems to be taking an age all of a sudden) and I'm still getiing a watery texture on the milk. If you try to make a second latte after the first then it tends to be even worse.

    The machine in only a few weeks old, always clean and purge the wand ect and no issue with the actual steam coming out, Im wondering if its something boiler related or if its actually the norm for everyone else?

    My head was wrecked about 2-3 weeks ago, I was experiencing the exact same as yourself. But as the lads have said above, it is milk related. I think it was just bad milk we were getting.


  • #156
    JustJoe7240
    Registered Users Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    Damo 2k9 wrote: »
    My head was wrecked about 2-3 weeks ago, I was experiencing the exact same as yourself. But as the lads have said above, it is milk related. I think it was just bad milk we were getting.

    It's not that you got "bad milk", It's more than likely to do with the cows diet, Cows go from a fresh grass based diet to a preserved grass diet from the first week of November to around the middle of February


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  • #157
    dubstepper
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭dubstepper


    I use low fat super milk for the last year with a consistent taste and texture.


  • #158
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    This is driving me nuts. Recently posted about changing the internal burr back to 5, to restart the dialing in process. Now I'm back at 1 internal, 4 on the dial, 19g coffee (that's just what came out on the second lowest grind amount) and it pulled for 10 seconds including perfusion. If I drop it to 1, the absolute lowest setting and I'm not getting 25 second pulls what can I do?

    Coffee is 3 weeks old stored air tight. New subscription will be sent this week.


  • #159
    FileNotFound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    This is driving me nuts. Recently posted about changing the internal burr back to 5, to restart the dialing in process. Now I'm back at 1 internal, 4 on the dial, 19g coffee (that's just what came out on the second lowest grind amount) and it pulled for 10 seconds including perfusion. If I drop it to 1, the absolute lowest setting and I'm not getting 25 second pulls what can I do?

    Coffee is 3 weeks old stored air tight. New subscription will be sent this week.

    If you have tried adjusting the inner Burr to all its options and still not grinding fine enough it may be broken. Maybe the plastic parts have worn down - assuming you've used it a lot.

    Have any other beans you know have worked to check?


  • #160
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    This is driving me nuts. Recently posted about changing the internal burr back to 5, to restart the dialing in process. Now I'm back at 1 internal, 4 on the dial, 19g coffee (that's just what came out on the second lowest grind amount) and it pulled for 10 seconds including perfusion. If I drop it to 1, the absolute lowest setting and I'm not getting 25 second pulls what can I do?

    Coffee is 3 weeks old stored air tight. New subscription will be sent this week.

    Buy a bag of pre ground for espresso coffee and try pouring a shot. If it is still no good then it's the machine. If its better than it was then it's the grinder


  • #161
    alec76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭alec76


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    This is driving me nuts. Recently posted about changing the internal burr back to 5, to restart the dialing in process. Now I'm back at 1 internal, 4 on the dial, 19g coffee (that's just what came out on the second lowest grind amount) and it pulled for 10 seconds including perfusion. If I drop it to 1, the absolute lowest setting and I'm not getting 25 second pulls what can I do?

    Coffee is 3 weeks old stored air tight. New subscription will be sent this week.

    Contact them
    https://www.sageappliances.com/uk/en/support/sage-support.html
    it might be easily fixed .
    They might sent you a shim kit( set of washers) to fix this

    https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/35781-shim-kit-advice/


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  • #162
    CWF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭CWF


    https://www.sageappliances.com/uk/en/products/espresso/bes875.html

    Picked up the Stainless Steel version for €510 including delivery to Parcel Wizard. Use code GlobalCoffeeFestival-KWNRtm5u for discount.

    Came across the deal on https://www.hotukdeals.com/tag/sage


  • #163
    FileNotFound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    CWF wrote: »
    https://www.sageappliances.com/uk/en/products/espresso/bes875.html

    Picked up the Stainless Steel version l for €510 including delivery to Parcel Wizard. Use code GlobalCoffeeFestival-KWNRtm5u for discount.

    Came across the deal on https://www.hotukdeals.com/tag/sage

    Good price, now the fun begins. The presets and guage zones are good for milk based but you'll want to leave them behind for espresso. Had mine a while and only now getting espresso right.


  • #164
    Ash_
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭Ash_


    Black Sesame is down to £399 on Amazon UK.


  • #165
    CWF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭CWF


    FileNotFound wrote: »
    Good price, now the fun begins. The presets and guage zones are good for milk based but you'll want to leave them behind for espresso. Had mine a while and only now getting espresso right.

    What would your advice be for espresso?


  • #166
    CWF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭CWF


    Ash_ wrote: »
    Black Sesame is down to £399 on Amazon UK.

    Gonzo.


  • #167
    Fall_Guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fall_Guy


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    This is driving me nuts. Recently posted about changing the internal burr back to 5, to restart the dialing in process. Now I'm back at 1 internal, 4 on the dial, 19g coffee (that's just what came out on the second lowest grind amount) and it pulled for 10 seconds including perfusion. If I drop it to 1, the absolute lowest setting and I'm not getting 25 second pulls what can I do?

    Coffee is 3 weeks old stored air tight. New subscription will be sent this week.

    Definitely something wrong there, one of the slightly annoying aspects of the express is the pre-infusion time can't be changed easily, and it's set at 10 seconds, so no way a shot should be out in 10.

    For comparison, the current brew I've settled on for the beans I have at the minute (Ponaire columbian) is 17.5g dose for a 30g yield in 27-28 seconds. Grind is set to 3 on the dial and I've never had to go near the internal burr.


  • #168
    rowanh
    Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭rowanh


    I Just got one of these earlier today, 540 for the stainless one, ships on Dec 8th so have to wait in anticipation for a while! It is an upgrade from a Nespresso so I am expecting good things :)

    Any suggestions on beans to get to use in it? I would love to be able to make espresso like you get in Rome, really thick and strong.


  • #169
    SneakyDoyle
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭SneakyDoyle


    rowanh wrote: »
    I Just got one of these earlier today, 540 for the stainless one, ships on Dec 8th so have to wait in anticipation for a while! It is an upgrade from a Nespresso so I am expecting good things :)

    Any suggestions on beans to get to use in it? I would love to be able to make espresso like you get in Rome, really thick and strong.

    Enjoy!

    My advice is be prepared to waste a couple of bags of beans getting the hang of it. If you like the bold, old school Italian style espresso go for dark roasts.

    Also ignore the pressure gauge to a degree and focus on extraction time. Pressure was perfect me but shots were sour and under extracted. Getting the extraction time close to 30 seconds yielded much better espresso!


  • #170
    flash84962
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭flash84962


    SneakyDoyle wrote:
    Also ignore the pressure gauge to a degree and focus on extraction time. Pressure was perfect me but shots were sour and under extracted. Getting the extraction time close to 30 seconds yielded much better espresso!


    Do you include the pre-extraction time in the 30sec? As in start timing when you press the button?


  • #171
    CWF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭CWF


    When buying beans am I looking whole bean or Espresso (fine) for this machine?


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  • #172
    SneakyDoyle
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭SneakyDoyle


    CWF wrote: »
    When buying beans am I looking whole bean or Espresso (fine) for this machine?

    Whole bean goes into the grinder!


  • #173
    dubstepper
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭dubstepper


    CWF wrote: »
    When buying beans am I looking whole bean or Espresso (fine) for this machine?


    Whole beans as said. Also maybe get a bag of cheap beans to do some experiments. If you buy the good stuff you will waste a bunch at the start getting your head around it.


  • #174
    ShadowSA
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭ShadowSA


    flash84962 wrote: »
    Do you include the pre-extraction time in the 30sec? As in start timing when you press the button?

    From when you press the button. Should be between 20 - 30 seconds.


  • #175
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    I just press the button and make coffee - clearly I've been missing out! Subscribed for a full read.

    Very happy with my (obviously under utilised) machine!


  • #176
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    This is driving me nuts. Recently posted about changing the internal burr back to 5, to restart the dialing in process. Now I'm back at 1 internal, 4 on the dial, 19g coffee (that's just what came out on the second lowest grind amount) and it pulled for 10 seconds including perfusion. If I drop it to 1, the absolute lowest setting and I'm not getting 25 second pulls what can I do?

    Coffee is 3 weeks old stored air tight. New subscription will be sent this week.

    Fresh bag of coffee, slight increase in extraction time and more crema but still not getting 25-30 seconds at the absolute lowest setting. Waiting for Sage customer support to get back to me. Hopefully won't be too long!


  • #177
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    Fresh bag of coffee, slight increase in extraction time and more crema but still not getting 25-30 seconds at the absolute lowest setting. Waiting for Sage customer support to get back to me. Hopefully won't be too long!

    Post a picture of the grounds pre brew.


  • #178
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Post a picture of the grounds pre brew.

    I give it a bit of a jiggle when it's grinding to prevent spill. A good force tamp without pushing my body weight into it. This one was 19g in, 67g out. More bitter than a coffee I had earlier though.

    4xO7lN1.jpg


  • #179
    alec76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭alec76


    Definitely too coarse for the finest settings.


  • #180
    alec76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭alec76


    I don't have Sage Barista ( thankfully ) , but I was silly enough to buy Sage Grinder , i presume they shared similar design.
    It was easy job to remove lower burr , 10mm nut , reverse thread , you should turn it clockwise to remove it. I would try to see what going on there first . Maybe it is not sits correctly or something similar. Don't overtighten it after.
    ps. I am DIY person, always sticking my nose in places I probably shouldn't,so may be you shouldn't do it too until it on warranty.


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  • #181
    mighty magpie
    Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭mighty magpie


    would you buy a pre owned model? and for how much?

    2 years old but only used a handful of times and has all the accesories, not a mark on it.


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