Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

eagle eye · 30-11-2020 04:59PM

trashcan wrote: »

No, no, no. He only wants to “date” her. Which isn’t sick at all

Who said it's not sick?

30-11-2020 05:02PM

The best thing is that I know he's clicking through to read my posts but he's using whatever small about of willpower he has to not reply to them after he slipped up the first time so he can continue with his fallacy. :pac:

robinph · 30-11-2020 05:11PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Who said it's not sick?

So it wasn't a "date" that he was talking about then?

Nothing sick about going on a "date" with your daughter to watch a movie or to take her out for a meal... Or was it possible that kind of date wasn't what Trump was meaning afterall?

Please explain exactly what Trump meant by "date" if you now belive what he said was sick, but somehow he wasn't referring to "banging" her.

30-11-2020 05:16PM

eagle eye wrote: »

More lies.
A question I asked is being used by you as a statement.

In fairness, your questions acted more as implications of wrong doing on her part and you fought pretty hard on it.

duploelabs · 30-11-2020 05:18PM

eagle eye wrote: »

More lies.
A question I asked is being used by you as a statement.

Your favourite tactic of 'just asking a question' is on the same gauge as 'I'm no trump supporter but...' as a way to distance yourself from the statement that follows it is as obvious as a child putting a pillow in front of their face and thinking they're invisible.

We all see it

eagle eye · 30-11-2020 05:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness, your questions acted more as implications of wrong doing on her part and you fought pretty hard on it.

Well it was never meant to.
It was meant to look.as to how it could be viewed.The only reason I brought it up was a suspicion that Pence might go there.

DrumSteve · 30-11-2020 05:21PM

This whole discussion is a pretty good example of the wider discussion around Trump.

Trump will tell you one thing (or in this scenario, multiple things) and someone will pipe up to say, nah he didn't mean it that way.

I mean, there are serious red flags there based on his language alone; you would have to wonder what the **** that sicko has put Ivanka through growing up, especially with him being Jeffrey Espteins mate.

ohnonotgmail · 30-11-2020 05:23PM

starting a sentence with

And would it be a wild theory to suggest...

is really just asking an innocent question and not making insinuations at all.

weisses · 30-11-2020 05:29PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Right we can move on.
I'm just sick of people defending a poster acting like Trump and his cronies.

Attacking me as if I'm a liar is despicable behaviour.

I'll continue to pull up anybody telling lies or posting unsubstantiated rumours and making up nicknames.

What was the purpose of your posts below other then suggesting Harris slept her way to the top ?

If you think a good looking young(28) woman who would have had many admirers ending up sleeping with her 60 boss is normal then I suggest you really don't know very much about the world.

and this jewel

It's not just the age gap, it's the particular 60 year old man she chose, just happened to be the most powerful man in her field at the time. Two promotions later it was over.

the one posted earlier

And would it be a wild theory to suggest she slept her way to a couple of promotions?

This is a cracker as well

So sleeping with her boss, 32 years her senior, is a normal thing for an ambitious young woman?

You think posting question marks makes your posts less misogynistic ?

Necro · 30-11-2020 06:11PM

Mod:

Can we drop this and just move on please, it's taking the thread wildly off topic into pointless back and forths between posters

Thanks

Overheal · 30-11-2020 07:44PM

So how about this "Hearing" in Arizona? Nuts, right?

Lot of gum flapping, no evidence, no swearing in, heck, it's being held in a hotel ballroom. Pretty sure that's now how due process works? They're bringing a lot of people to come in and holler accusations and innuendo, but none of them will show up in court. Huh!

While they were all doing this, Arizona went ahead and certified its results anyway, becoming the last swing state to do so.

dasdog · 30-11-2020 07:57PM

Overheal wrote: »

So how about this "Hearing" in Arizona?

Another Rudy press conference. The brazen cheek to infer it was some sort of official inquiry and timed to take place around the same time AZ certified today. Fox didn't even bother with it. It's was desperate stuff - when Hugo Chavez started being mentioned I turned it off.

Selik · 30-11-2020 07:59PM

Been hearing alot of about some kind of third act via a mate (big Trump fan), whereby something big is gonna happen that enables Trump to be inaugurated in January.

I don't think this is likely, but have not been following this stuff that closely since about a week after the election date.

I met him last week for an outdoor pint and he's so convinced, he's even put cold hard cash down on it and said he knows others who have done the same!

Can anyone hear shed any light, and where he might be getting his info from (be it nonsense or otherwise) ? He claims he's not too deep into conspiracy theories, but I have my doubts.

The only thing I can think of is that Trump convinces some of the swing stage electoral colleges to overturn their results, based on some apparent fraudulent basis, and give their votes to Trump.

duploelabs · 30-11-2020 08:05PM

Selik wrote: »

Been hearing alot of about some kind of third act via a mate (big Trump fan), whereby something big is gonna happen that enables Trump to be inaugurated in January.

I don't think this is likely, but have not been following this stuff that closely since about a week after the election date.

I met him last week for an outdoor pint and he's so convinced, he's even put cold hard cash down on it and said he knows others who have done the same!

Can anyone hear shed any light, and where he might be getting his info from (be it nonsense or otherwise) ? He claims he's not too deep into conspiracy theories, but I have my doubts.

The only thing I can think of is that Trump convinces some of the swing stage electoral colleges to overturn their results, based on some apparent fraudulent basis, and give their votes to Trump.

Ask them if they fancy doubling or tripling their bet, easy money

eagle eye · 30-11-2020 08:18PM

Selik wrote: »

Been hearing alot of about some kind of third act via a mate (big Trump fan), whereby something big is gonna happen that enables Trump to be inaugurated in January.

I don't think this is likely, but have not been following this stuff that closely since about a week after the election date.

I met him last week for an outdoor pint and he's so convinced, he's even put cold hard cash down on it and said he knows others who have done the same!

Can anyone hear shed any light, and where he might be getting his info from (be it nonsense or otherwise) ? He claims he's not too deep into conspiracy theories, but I have my doubts.

The only thing I can think of is that Trump convinces some of the swing stage electoral colleges to overturn their results, based on some apparent fraudulent basis, and give their votes to Trump.

If electoral colleges overturned their results then and went against democracy then we'd have election fraud and proper court cases brought by the Democrats.

It's not going to happen regardless of how hard Trump tries.

Overheal · 30-11-2020 08:18PM

This lady on this hearing has been going on a lot of hearsay and taking guesses about what she saw, a lot of hedging language. Stuff that would never hold up in court, and a farce that any legislator in attendance doesn't want on the record, clearly, if its held in a ballroom and not a legislative hearing room.

Selik wrote: »

Been hearing alot of about some kind of third act via a mate (big Trump fan), whereby something big is gonna happen that enables Trump to be inaugurated in January.

I don't think this is likely, but have not been following this stuff that closely since about a week after the election date.

I met him last week for an outdoor pint and he's so convinced, he's even put cold hard cash down on it and said he knows others who have done the same!

Can anyone hear shed any light, and where he might be getting his info from (be it nonsense or otherwise) ? He claims he's not too deep into conspiracy theories, but I have my doubts.

The only thing I can think of is that Trump convinces some of the swing stage electoral colleges to overturn their results, based on some apparent fraudulent basis, and give their votes to Trump.

Tell him to bet the house and the car. Can't lose! :pac:

There's nothing he can do. All the swing states have certified, the electors will be picked by Democrats. They will convene in 2 weeks, on the 14th of December. He will continue to beg electors to vote for him, it won't work. Your friend is probably of the persuasion that Trump can somehow stop the casting of votes by electors on December 14, if he miraculously did that, the election would go to the House of Representatives where each state would have 2 delegates, and they think they can win there. The odds of that outcome are astronomical.

Trump also thought that by failing in the courts and constantly amending and appealing motions he will somehow get the SCOTUS to take in all their "evidence" but that's not how SCOTUS works, there is the trial court level, the appeals circuit, and the supreme court. The trial court process, accepts and rejects evidence. He's made it up to the appeals level with no evidence of fraud, and has been struck down "with prejudice," meaning they can no longer further amend or try to trickle-in hearsay. His hope is that SCOTUS would somehow ignore stare decisis (judicial precedent) to block state certification of the election. Fantasy.

Here's a great rundown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha7iWECm_8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-nblE8ps2M

They hope with this "hearing" today they will throw up enough dirt that *something* will stick, but the election in AZ is already out the door.

froog · 30-11-2020 08:20PM

Selik wrote: »

Been hearing alot of about some kind of third act via a mate (big Trump fan), whereby something big is gonna happen that enables Trump to be inaugurated in January.

I don't think this is likely, but have not been following this stuff that closely since about a week after the election date.

I met him last week for an outdoor pint and he's so convinced, he's even put cold hard cash down on it and said he knows others who have done the same!

Can anyone hear shed any light, and where he might be getting his info from (be it nonsense or otherwise) ? He claims he's not too deep into conspiracy theories, but I have my doubts.

The only thing I can think of is that Trump convinces some of the swing stage electoral colleges to overturn their results, based on some apparent fraudulent basis, and give their votes to Trump.

i'd say they are getting their information from the current home of thedonald. it's literally the only place where people still think he's going to somehow overturn the election. i'd ask your friends what the hell are they doing hanging out on that bat**** crazy website.

Quin_Dub · 30-11-2020 08:20PM

Selik wrote: »

Been hearing alot of about some kind of third act via a mate (big Trump fan), whereby something big is gonna happen that enables Trump to be inaugurated in January.

I don't think this is likely, but have not been following this stuff that closely since about a week after the election date.

I met him last week for an outdoor pint and he's so convinced, he's even put cold hard cash down on it and said he knows others who have done the same!

Can anyone hear shed any light, and where he might be getting his info from (be it nonsense or otherwise) ? He claims he's not too deep into conspiracy theories, but I have my doubts.

The only thing I can think of is that Trump convinces some of the swing stage electoral colleges to overturn their results, based on some apparent fraudulent basis, and give their votes to Trump.

The theory on "Team Trump" is that if they get to the Supreme Court then "Trumps guys" on the court will do him a solid and award the election to him.

A few problems with that though.

That's not how the Supreme Court works
It's also not how the entire system of Law works in the US

To get to the Supreme court , they have to have a legal argument about a decision made by a lower court . So , for example they might be able to appeal the recent Federal court hearing that slapped them down really hard (a judgment delivered by 3 Republican Judges and authored by a Trump appointee), but it can only be about where they think that the lower court made an error in Law.

However , the Appeal would only be to rescind the rejection of the Court case , it wouldn't change the decision - At the absolute best the SCOTUS could overrule the Federal court decision , which would only send the case back down to the lower court for review again.

Trump keeps saying that they have all this evidence that they want to bring to the Supreme court - Which displays a truly staggering level of total ignorance of how the entire Judicial system in the US works.

They cannot introduce new evidence in the SCOTUS - They can only argue legal technicalities and interpretations of the evidence already submitted.

They have submitted ZERO evidence of Fraud and even if they had it (they don't) they can't bring it up in the Supreme court.

TL;DR

Trump has lost , he has NOTHING and knows it , but he's building a media narrative that says "We have all this evidence to prove the massive fraud , but we are being denied our day in Court by the *Deep State*".

That narrative gives him two things - A way to keep grifting cash off his gullible supporters for "the fight" and a way to allow his narcissistic mind to never have to accept that he got beaten like a drum by a 78 year old journey-man politician that barely campaigned..

Overheal · 30-11-2020 08:26PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

That narrative gives him two things - A way to keep grifting cash off his gullible supporters for "the fight" and a way to allow his narcissistic mind to never have to accept that he got beaten like a drum by a 78 year old journey-man politician that barely campaigned..

And that's the central plot right there. The Trump 2020 campaign is overspent and in debt.

So for weeks they've been badgering supporters for more money, claiming that it was for the election legal fight. However:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1326661417349623808?s=20

The whole thing is a literal grift to balance their chequebooks. Not to mention Trump has personal debts of over $400M. It is fully expected he will announce his run for re-election virtually immediately, even perhaps during his inauguration day remarks on January 20th (IMO). He's going to do so both for the money and the empty rhetorical argument that you shouldn't indict a presidential candidate :pac:

LuckyLloyd · 30-11-2020 08:42PM

Arizona certified.
Wisconsin set to follow within the next few hours.

Carfacemandog · 30-11-2020 09:06PM

Selik wrote: »

Been hearing alot of about some kind of third act via a mate (big Trump fan), whereby something big is gonna happen that enables Trump to be inaugurated in January.

Not actually trying to be funny here, but is your mate also into QAnon?

There's a very common trend between QAnon and Trump which is that something "huge" is always "right around the corner".

It tends to work very well on people prone to being scammed or gifted. Which doesn't automatically mean dumb people so it's not a shot at your friend, as much as pointing out a common theme.

Ultimately your friends bet is going to land him out of pocket. You should ask if he put on a bet or donated to some "effort" because if the latter, he someone somewhere is openly laughing at him while taking his money.

Every single swing state to the best of my knowledge has now certified.

Guy:Incognito · 30-11-2020 10:00PM

Any sign of JFK Jnr showing up yet? He'd want to hurry up if hes going to save big daddy D.

Have the Q-tips mentioned it at all or is it the usual thing of once all the mileage has been gotten from a piece of nonsense it gets dropped, added to the long list of stuff that didnt happen and never spoken about again?

eagle eye · 30-11-2020 10:03PM

Guy:Incognito wrote:

Any sign of JFK Jnr showing up yet?

He's only 27, not sure he'll enter politics at all.
Joe Kennedy III is a potential candidate in '24 but more likely '28.

Guy:Incognito · 30-11-2020 10:04PM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

There's a very common trend between QAnon and Trump which is that something "huge" is always "right around the corner".

"Yuuuge" :pac::pac::pac:

Carfacemandog · 30-11-2020 10:06PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

"Yuuuge" :pac::pac::pac:

It was either that or bigly.

Carfacemandog · 30-11-2020 10:10PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Any sign of JFK Jnr showing up yet?

It's been over 20 years, they probably stopped the search ages ago.

ohnonotgmail · 30-11-2020 10:14PM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

It's been over 20 years, they probably stopped the search ages ago.

not sure if serious but he was supposed to be Trumps running mate in 2020 according to QAnon.

Saganist · 30-11-2020 10:17PM

Apparently for every vote Biden got in Arizona he actually got 1 and 3/10ths of a vote.

The mathematics being used to come to that conclusion is absolutely farcical.

duploelabs · 30-11-2020 10:29PM

Saganist wrote: »

Apparently for every vote Biden got in Arizona he actually got 1 and 3/10ths of a vote.

The mathematics being used to come to that conclusion is absolutely farcical.

Say what?

Carfacemandog · 30-11-2020 10:31PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

not sure if serious but he was supposed to be Trumps running mate in 2020 according to QAnon.

Ah Christ. I was, but missed that guy incognito was indeed talking about that jfk Jnr. From eagle eyes response I thought there was another that had slipped by me.

Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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