General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

CSF wrote: »

I mean that’s a crazy suggestion. Why would BT intentionally pick a team who plays on the Wednesday? They pick the most commercially viable game available to them after Sky have chosen before them.

The UEFA games are set with the dates before the PL games are.

BT knew that Liverpool were playing Wednesday night before choosing them as their 12.30 kick off today. Just like they did with Man Utd & Man City before.

As for the future Palace - Liverpool game I'm not sure if they knew in advance but they still chose that game. Both clubs are playing on the Wednesday night.

Everton Varred again.

Interfering with play Infront of goal keeper.

Facking hell

There will be less scope to flex the schedules now that fans are allowed back.

Klopp has to take some responsibility himself for the injuries. He was playing pretty much a full team right up until the last few games of the season, after he had the league confirmed. On the last day of the season against Newcastle (who were playing for nothing too) he started Van Dijk, Robertson, Gomez, Keita, Milner, Wijnaldum. 4 of those are injured now. He even left the likes of Shaqiri and Harvey Elliott as unused subs, guys who needed/wanted game time.

They were one of the first teams back for Pre-Season. Liverpool played 4 games before the season started. The team they played today Brighton, played 1 game before the season started. Most teams played between 1-3 games. Liverpool had the community shield but even Arsenal only played 3 games. And the one of the biggest complaints from Klopp was that Pre-Season was not long enough.

Liverpools tactics involve the high press, always always pressing. They run amongst the most distance of any team. Liverpool are a very hard working team. The manager demands it.

Klopps tactics, his excess training, his refusal to rotate and make earlier subs have all contributed to his problems. I'm not saying it's either-or, they schedule of games is not good for them. But he is a just as much the cause for their issues as the congestion is.

Unfortunately for Liverpool, there is nobody at the club that will call him for it. No matter what walk of life you are in, if there is nobody to call you out on your errors then the future is bleak.

He has started to rotate the team, modify the tactics and He has to start using his U23s more.

Rock77 wrote: »

Ah now, come on..

it’s ok to not get the ball and kick the opponent in the box because..........???

It doesn’t matter what may have happened if Robertson didn’t connect! Lol

He didn’t get the ball, he kicked Wellbeck..

It was very similar to one given against Fernándes that was over turned,

Richard Hillman wrote: »

There will be less scope to flex the schedules now that fans are allowed back.

Klopp has to take some responsibility himself for the injuries. He was playing pretty much a full team right up until the last few games of the season, after he had the league confirmed.

He has started to rotate the team, modify the tactics and He has to start using his U23s more.

Gonna snip your quote down to just these lines.

Resting players 4 moths ago in August is not going to prevent injuries as direct result of having to play 3 games in 7 days, with short turnarounds.

James Milner had to start all 3 games because of other injuries and the short turnaround and picked up a muscle injury. He was tested a lot at the end of last season after the title was wrapped up.

And as for the u23s - in case you haven't noticed but May Philips, Rhys Williams, Neco Williams & Curtis Jones have played a combined 8 games between this week alone. Those players are being given a chance.

I'm not sure how you can say that Klopp is not rotating enough when he made 5 & 6 changes for both the midweek & weekend game this week.

Rotation options are practically gone now with all the injuries.

TAA injury meant Neco Williams & Milner were being used as the RB. Milner is now injured so Neco is going to have to play every game.

VVD & Gomez are injured, along with Matip's current issue which means Fabinho is forced to play every game. He had his own injury too. Both Matip & Fabinho need to manage their game time but have to play every other game because of the depleted options across the pitch.

Tsimikas was injured for 7 weeks so Robertson had to play every game.

Thiago, Henderson, Keita & Ox have all being injured for the last 6 or 7 weeks, or longer so the only fit midfielders were Gini, Jones & Milner. They are being forced into playing every game. Milner is now injured so that increases the burden on Jones & Gini as Henderson is only just coming back from injury. Gini really needs a break but he can't get one as there are so many other midfielders injured and unavailable.

Shaqiri has been missing from games too as a hybrid midfielder / attacker and Salah / Mane both missing games too. The other attackers have to carry the burden of the team.

"Just play the u23"s.....they already are 3 or 4 playing every game. You can't just drop in 5 or 6 teenagers into first team football at the top end of PL or CL football and expect them all to find their feet instantly, and at the same time.

Mushy wrote: »

Not good for the heart eh?

It's used to disappointment it's the hope that kills me

Mushy wrote: »

Look at who ye are playing, not alone in that feeling

At home to a promoted team from the Championship?

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

At home to a promoted team from the Championship?

And never an ounce of disappointment in those years

Mushy wrote: »

And never an ounce of disappointment in those years

Ah I thought you referencing an Everton perspective my bad :pac:

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Contact alone does not mean its a penalty

Walton and the other ex prem ref both said to them it was not a penalty,

As they pointed out the ref goes over to the monitor to look for contact, but contact does not mean its a penalty both said the ref should look at the context of the contact

How many time shave we seen a player run into the box knock a ball to far ahead of himself that itll run out then they look for contact to go down for a ref to say no penalty,

Brighton players have said they didnt think it was a penalty,

What Brighton players said that? I haven't seen any say that can you send me on the link please?

Raphina 0-1 great goal

Rock77 wrote: »

The Fernandez one looked a penalty to me.

But your rationale for the Liverpool one is hilarious.

‘It shouldn’t have been a pen against Liverpool because of what might of happened if Robbo didn’t foul Wellbeck’

Just hilarious!

RasTa wrote: »

Similar to if it was Salah, you'd be saying there was contact so it was a stonewall peno tbh

I wouldn't actually, i dont want the game to go the way it is going
Feels lile there a couple of penalties every game its not right regardless of who there for

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

That's a terrible miss by Leeds

Thank christ was offside in the end