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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭RickDeckard


    listermint wrote: »
    It's been investigated and verified several times.you are stuck down a rabbit hole.

    Either that or you are one of the shills making the YouTube videos and as such shilling their product because at the end of the day that's all it is.


    A grift


    No Rabbit hole, and the only thing I put on YouTube is bitchin Guitar videos.

    Anyway name call away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    No , why should I ? You've made your mind up already no matter whats happening.

    Time will tell who is right or wrong.

    It all stinks. I

    Why don't you put up your own evidence that you've gathered and we can see how far down the rabbit hole you've gone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    No , why should I ? You've made your mind up already no matter whats happening.

    Time will tell who is right or wrong.

    It all stinks. I

    I'll wait for trump to produce this evidence in court so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    No Rabbit hole, and the only thing I put on YouTube is bitchin Guitar videos.

    Anyway name call away.

    What is the extent of this fraud, have they been able to clarify it?

    Is it right across the country, or just limited to certain states?

    How did they work it out, what is the source of their information?

    Why haven't they produced it in court yet?

    Why has the FBI not been involved?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Yes there has, look at the link I posted, the hate for Trump has just shut people's minds down.

    No there wasn't. There is always a tiny miniscule fraction of fraud in every election. There is NO large scale fraud. Your devotion to your grand leader has clouded your judgement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,375 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    No Rabbit hole, and the only thing I put on YouTube is bitchin Guitar videos.

    Anyway name call away.

    Name call ? I never once name called you anything.

    Your watching singular sources of information are you familiar with YouTube's algorithm? I'd assume you should be if you have your own guitar channel.
    .you should really understand it's complexity and what it does to an audience member. With that knowledge you might start to consider your consumption and I don't know.... Branch out a bit more. Even a little bit more..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭RickDeckard


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Im not watching 90 minutes of nonsense, you should be easily able to spell it out here if its real, and again why has none of it been presented in any of the countless court cases so far?

    The main points

    100's of sworn affidavits from private citizens have been filed alleging voting irregularities.
    Basic ID checks not done.
    Massive, statistical irregularities observed, Biden getting 100% of vote counts in some areas.
    Massive amounts of votes appearing at 4 AM, for Biden only.
    Unsealed Voting machines with incorrect serial numbers appearing.
    Many USB storage keys missing from Voting machines.
    Dominion Voting machines proven hackable, malware already found.
    Hundreds of thousands more votes returned than sent out
    The dead Voting.
    Day by day more is coming out.
    Media blackouts non this

    But, I'm a shill, tin foil hatter, what ever you want to call me, I'm just pointing out that this all smells. I hope I'm wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭RickDeckard


    listermint wrote: »
    Name call ? I never once name called you anything.

    Your watching singular sources of information are you familiar with YouTube's algorithm? I'd assume you should be if you have your own guitar channel.
    .you should really understand it's complexity and what it does to an audience member. With that knowledge you might start to consider your consumption and I don't know.... Branch out a bit more. Even a little bit more..

    Holy God , could you be anymore condescending?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The main points

    100's of sworn affidavits from private citizens have been filed alleging voting irregularities.
    Basic ID checks not done.
    Massive, statistical irregularities observed, Biden getting 100% of vote counts in some areas.
    Massive amounts of votes appearing at 4 AM, for Biden only.
    Unsealed Voting machines with incorrect serial numbers appearing.
    Many USB storage keys missing from Voting machines.
    Dominion Voting machines proven hackable, malware already found.
    Hundreds of thousands more votes returned than sent out
    The dead Voting.
    Day by day more is coming out.
    Media blackouts non this

    But, I'm a shill, tin foil hatter, what ever you want to call me, I'm just pointing out that this all smells. I hope I'm wrong.

    and yet none of that "evidence" has convinced a single judge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,375 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Holy God , could you be anymore condescending?

    I definitely could. I could infer level of intelligence but I haven't.

    I'm asking you to broaden the origins of your information sources. Maybe give you an opportunity to get a fuller picture of something you are so abundantly sure about.


    Instead you are watching YouTube channels which tell you to watch other podcasts which in turn tell you to watch other YouTube channels a positive circle jerk of money making nonsense.

    Open your mind buddy.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The main points

    100's of sworn affidavits from private citizens have been filed alleging voting irregularities.
    Basic ID checks not done.
    Massive, statistical irregularities observed, Biden getting 100% of vote counts in some areas.
    Massive amounts of votes appearing at 4 AM, for Biden only.
    Unsealed Voting machines with incorrect serial numbers appearing.
    Many USB storage keys missing from Voting machines.
    Dominion Voting machines proven hackable, malware already found.
    Hundreds of thousands more votes returned than sent out
    The dead Voting.
    Day by day more is coming out.
    Media blackouts non this

    But, I'm a shill, tin foil hatter, what ever you want to call me, I'm just pointing out that this all smells. I hope I'm wrong.

    Yet none of this has been presented in court. Why is that do you think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭RickDeckard


    and yet none of that "evidence" has convinced a single judge.

    Let's see what the next few days bring, tbh, f u c k Trump and Biden, but the integrity of the system must be maintained.

    If there has been no fraud, then nothing to be feared from an investigation.

    I see I'm a lone voice here, I'm not trying to wind you up, like I said, f Biden won clean, then Good man and best of luck, but things ain't stackin up to my old eyes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭RickDeckard


    robinph wrote: »
    Yet none of this has been presented in court. Why is that do you think?


    They are gathering fact and making the case I guess, I dunno, I'm not saying Team Trump is correct, but things look odd at a minimum.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Let's see what the next few days bring, the, f u c k Trump and Biden, but the integrity of the system must be maintained.

    If there has been no fraud, then nothing to be feared from an investigation.

    I see I'm a lone voice here, I'm not trying to wind you up, like I said, f Biden won clean, then Good man and best of luck, but things ain't stackin upnto my old eyes.

    So 4+ years ago Trump was claiming election fraud for why he lost the popular vote...nothing to back that up was found from his own investigation.

    He then setup a new department to ensure that elections were carried out correctly, the head of the department said they were carried out correctly so Trump fired him.

    Now three weeks after the election and Trump continuing to claim that there was election fraud this time around, but has still failed to produce a single bit of evidence to support this thing that he was so certain of for the last 4+ years and you think that we are the deluded ones?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭RickDeckard


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Im not watching 90 minutes of nonsense, you should be easily able to spell it out here if its real, and again why has none of it been presented in any of the countless court cases so far?

    OK so, it's 13 minute video by a well respected Academic, not bloody Alex Jones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Let's see what the next few days bring, tbh, f u c k Trump and Biden, but the integrity of the system must be maintained.

    If there has been no fraud, then nothing to be feared from an investigation.

    I see I'm a lone voice here, I'm not trying to wind you up, like I said, f Biden won clean, then Good man and best of luck, but things ain't stackin up to my old eyes.

    trump has lost 37 cases already, some on the topics you have mentioned. all have been laughed out of court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,375 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    OK so, it's 13 minute video by a well respected Academic, not bloody Alex Jones.

    Well respected where ? And by whom ? Honest question.

    Being an academic itself doesn't rise you above anyone.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    They are gathering fact and making the case I guess, I dunno, I'm not saying Team Trump is correct, but things look odd at a minimum.

    What is odd is that after years claiming election fraud, and even before that claiming fraud in any other contest that he lost, is that people believe a word out of Trumps mouth.

    He has been gathering facts for years, but still has none.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭RickDeckard


    robinph wrote: »
    So 4+ years ago Trump was claiming election fraud for why he lost the popular vote...nothing to back that up was found from his own investigation.

    He then setup a new department to ensure that elections were carried out correctly, the head of the department said they were carried out correctly so Trump fired him.

    Now three weeks after the election and Trump continuing to claim that there was election fraud this time around, but has still failed to produce a single bit of evidence to support this thing that he was so certain of for the last 4+ years and you think that we are the deluded ones?

    I may be totally wrong , we will all see soon. I hope all is legit and Trump's just being a dick, because the alternative is scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,829 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    It stinks, I just want everything investigated and verified, what's the problem with that if all is above board?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,375 ✭✭✭✭listermint


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    The main points

    100's of sworn affidavits from private citizens have been filed alleging voting irregularities.
    Basic ID checks not done.
    Massive, statistical irregularities observed, Biden getting 100% of vote counts in some areas.
    Massive amounts of votes appearing at 4 AM, for Biden only.
    Unsealed Voting machines with incorrect serial numbers appearing.
    Many USB storage keys missing from Voting machines.
    Dominion Voting machines proven hackable, malware already found.
    Hundreds of thousands more votes returned than sent out
    The dead Voting.
    Day by day more is coming out.
    Media blackouts non this

    But, I'm a shill, tin foil hatter, what ever you want to call me, I'm just pointing out that this all smells. I hope I'm wrong.

    Right lets deal with all youve got wrong first.

    From what ive seen most of the affidavits presented so far have all been hearsay along the lines of "i heard someone say something but have no physical proof of anything happening"

    The 4am votes have been completely dis proven, it was a reporting error.

    The hundreds of thousands more votes received than sent out thing was an idiotic mistake by someone confusing Michigan and Minnesota.

    There is no proven evidence of dead voting everything looked into has been shown to be same name and a default DOB or the person was alive and records were incorrect.

    And again everything else simply needs to be presented in court yet so far nothing has been backed up by any real evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I may be totally wrong , we will all see soon. I hope all is legit and Trump's just being a dick, because the alternative is scary.

    perhaps look at the evidence before crying fraud. the courts already have looked at the evidence and thrown trump out of court every time. why do you think that is? are the courts in on it as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    OK so, it's 13 minute video by a well respected Academic, not bloody Alex Jones.


    Hes an anonymous brexiteer, give me a real name to prove hes a respected academic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    OK so, it's 13 minute video by a well respected Academic, not bloody Alex Jones.

    Because his Youtube name is Academic Agent that means he's a well respected academic?

    I guess I'll change my Youtube name to Mr. Massive Cock. Everyone will know it's true because that's my name...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    They are gathering fact and making the case I guess, I dunno, I'm not saying Team Trump is correct, but things look odd at a minimum.

    Right, so you don't actually know.

    But you stated that the election had been robbed, that Trump was the real winner.

    And now you are saying that you don't really know, but that you heard some things that sounds kind of dodgy.

    That is quite a climbdown.
    Trump has been saying since the 1st night that it was rigged, so he must have had the evidence at that stage. Yet he has let the states certify the results, lost 35+ cases, seen the GSA start the transition process.

    All the while he is holding back on this 'gotcha' moment?

    Remembering that both Trump and Guiliani are known and well documented liars. So the burden of proof is very much on them yet they have not only provided no evidence, in court they are not even alleging that fraud took place. Only in press conferences and tweets.

    Fine to ask questions, but at least be open to asking questions on both sides or this particular issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,047 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331987171700510720?s=19

    Somone is still screaming into the void....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And that tweets is basically the root of all of this. Trump simply cannot understand, or accept, that he has been beaten. Particularly by Biden. Remember at one of his rallies he said something like 'imagine being beaten by that guy!'.

    There is no evidence, but he simply 'knows' it must be fraud as otherwise, it makes no sense. He is everyone's favourite POTUS. There is all those shy Trump voters people kept talking about.

    That is why he claimed fraud on the 1st night. There is no way they could have known at that stage there was fraud, but it was the only way he could compute what was happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    you're grand. a 90 minutes video that could probably be summarised in a dozen pages.

    I have replaced it with an 8 minute version.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    They are gathering fact and making the case I guess, I dunno, I'm not saying Team Trump is correct, but things look odd at a minimum.

    You gather facts and make cases before you go to court.

    You then present these facts and your case while in court.

    The fact that Giuliani cannot present any of these facts (and had not even tried to in court despite shouting about it on TV) and has been unable to make a case while in court shows that he has no facts to give nor cases to be made.

    The idea of Giuliani gathering facts while in the court room is like a team going out for a training session during a football match. A football match they are losing 37-1. It doesn't correspond with reality.


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