Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Is Trump in Pennsylvania?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331684437705302018?s=09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDZkXxFVEU

He rang in to that sham of a "hearing" in Pennsylvania.

Cody montana wrote: »

It is my Great Honor to announce that General Michael T. Flynn has been granted a Full Pardon. Congratulations to
@GenFlynn
and his wonderful family, I know you will now have a truly fantastic Thanksgiving!


Pardoning the criminals before he gets thrown out.

Criminals pardoning criminals, Thankfully Trump can't be pardoned for some of his crimes, hopefully he is charged and is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

And the Trumpists will still support him. Pardoning his buddy who is a convicted criminal. He'll try to wrangle a preemptive pardon for himself before January 20th.

namloc1980 wrote: »

He'll try to wrangle a preemptive pardon for himself before January 20th.

Is he legally allowed to do that ?

bewareofthedog wrote: »

That's not true, he fired Flynn for misleading Pence.

Wrong. From the man himself. (BTW isn't it amazing with Trump that there's ALWAYS a tweet!)

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namloc1980 wrote: »

Wrong. From the man himself. (BTW isn't it amazing with trump that there's ALWAYS a tweet!)

We're dealing in semantics, but Trump changed his story later.

https://apnews.com/article/f5ab3e3c75304b9bbe1e4b32322b3faf

"Trump alters story on why he fired Flynn"

"President Donald Trump changed his story Saturday on why he fired Michael Flynn as his national security adviser, now suggesting he knew at the time that Flynn had lied to the FBI as well as to Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Russians during the presidential transition.

That was a turnabout from his initial explanations that Flynn had to go because he hadn’t been straight with Pence about those contacts."

Amid questions raised by the tweet( the one you posted ), Trump associates tried to put distance Saturday evening between the president himself and the tweet. One person familiar with the situation said the tweet was actually crafted by John Dowd, one of the president’s personal attorneys. Dowd declined to comment when reached by The Associated Press on Saturday night.

bewareofthedog wrote: »

We're dealing in semantics, but Trump changed his story later.

https://apnews.com/article/f5ab3e3c75304b9bbe1e4b32322b3faf

"Trump alters story on why he fired Flynn"

"President Donald Trump changed his story Saturday on why he fired Michael Flynn as his national security adviser, now suggesting he knew at the time that Flynn had lied to the FBI as well as to Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Russians during the presidential transition.

That was a turnabout from his initial explanations that Flynn had to go because he hadn’t been straight with Pence about those contacts."

Not semantics. You said he fired him for misleading Pence and claimed not because he lied to the FBI. Trump's tweet confirms you were wrong.

Flynn has the dirt I’d wager. Trump covering his ass.

namloc1980 wrote: »

Not semantics. You said he fired him for misleading Pence and claimed not because he lied to the FBI. Trump's tweet confirms you were wrong.

So if Trump says something on the spot, like I dunno - " I fired Comey because of Russia " - then later changes his story to " It has nothing to do with Russia " we should believe the second explanation?

Solid logic there.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1331660557355790338?s=19

Ha bet he does.

bewareofthedog wrote: »

So if Trump says something on the spot, like I dunno - " I fired Comey because of Russia " - then later changes his story to " It has nothing to do with Russia " we should believe the second explanation?

Solid logic there.

So Trump's tweet is a lie?

bewareofthedog wrote: »

Flynn was cleared by the FBI initially over the phonecalls and the 13th floor or whatever it's called on the FBI to close their investigation into him as their was no evidence of wrongdoing.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/315793-fbi-found-no-wrongdoing-in-flynns-calls-with-russian

FBI found no wrongdoing in Flynn’s calls with Russia: report

An FBI review of communications between Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. and President Trump’s national security adviser did not produce any incriminating evidence, The Washington Post reported Monday night.

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McCabe and Strzok went against those orders trying to get him procecuted under the hatch act or whatever it's called and interviewed him without an attorney present and that's when the whole legal mess started.

A national security advisor and 4 star general was duped into lying to the FBI, which he knew was a crime, without a lawyer?

Is that what you are saying.

bewareofthedog wrote: »

When Trump was being inaugurated and doing all his initial pressers, which I watched, he never once mentioned the FBI as a reason for firing Flynn. All he spouted about was misleading Pence. That's what I'm basing my reasoning on.

So you believe Trump lied in December 2017. Why would he like so blatantly?

By the way your logic is bonkers. Someone says something but later clarifies it. In your view only the first thing they said should be believed. The clarification is a lie. Weird take.

namloc1980 wrote: »

So you believe Trump lied in December 2017. Why would he like so blatantly?

By the way your logic is bonkers. Someone says something but later clarifies it. In your view only the first thing they said should be believed. The clarification is a lie. Weird take.

Did you not read the AP link I posted? I'm not pulling my assertion out of the air.

"Amid questions raised by the tweet, Trump associates tried to put distance Saturday evening between the president himself and the tweet. One person familiar with the situation said the tweet was actually crafted by John Dowd, one of the president’s personal attorneys. Dowd declined to comment when reached by The Associated Press on Saturday night."

bewareofthedog wrote: »

What's your logic?

That it's a good thing FBI agents are capable of doing such a thing?

Flynn believed he was cleared, which he was.

My logic is the dog in the street knows it's a crime to lie to the FBI.

Flynn knew it was a crime.

He did it anyway.

Then he pled guilty to it.

Then he pled guilty to it again.

Whether the fact that lying to the FBI is a crime is fair or not is another discussion.

He is a self confessed criminal.

Accepting a pardon means he is accepting he is guilty for a 3rd time.

The situation here is that he is lied for Trump and he is being rewarded.