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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #7502
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Huh? What have we become....it's an absolutely nonsense article from our national broadcaster. I think they were trying to be humourous, hard to know.
    If they want to start providing 'Advice for Simpletons during Covid', then they should dedicate a new website for it and stop wasting people's time.

    Which Level allows Grandpa to visit but only if he sits beside the open window? RTE are treating people like morons. Clickbait.

    people are morons


  • #7503
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I guess exchanging gifts and pulling Christmas crackers is off the menu as well?

    Nobody will be following this nonsense.

    Much as you might like to believe otherwise many actually will. Anyway any chance you might actually answer the question I asked in my previous reply to you instead of your whataboutery tactic?


  • #7504
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    seamus wrote: »
    While it sounds ridiculous, it's perfectly practical advice for the ridiculous times we find ourselves in.

    The main advice is to not have a shared Xmas dinner if you can avoid it. But if you must, then here's few simple ways to maximise safety.

    The only one there which seems remotely difficult is the gravy one. But you could give each person a little tumbler maybe with their own portion of gravy.

    If we are going to display such a fear of handling a gravy boat what about the use of a toilet on Christmas day? That will require a lengthy dissertation.


  • #7505
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    If we are going to display such a fear of handling a gravy boat what about the use of a toilet on Christmas day? That will require a lengthy dissertation.

    Not really no, just common sense.


  • #7506
    Daemonic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Daemonic


    If someone had just pasted the list into a reply I would have thought the original source was more likely to be Waterford Whispers than RTE.


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  • #7507
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    We seem to not have learned from the first wave in regards of testing and tracing. It seems to have not been upscaled at all. We are lagging behind many countries in europe now


  • #7508
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,470 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Daemonic wrote: »
    If someone had just pasted the list into a reply I would have thought the original source was more likely to be Waterford Whispers than RTE.

    Yep, it's embarrassing. If I see that guff on the RTE news I will demand a refund of the TV license. And some people have welcomed the new advice. Some people are too infected with Covid fear methinks.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #7509
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Going out with wet hair.

    An old wives tale with no truth to it.


  • #7510
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    seamus wrote: »
    Because the insistence on schools being an issue has become a farce at this stage. Lots of people doggedly insisting that schools are rife with infection, devoid of any evidence.

    It's gone from "schools are obviously going to be a problem" - a fair observation, to "Schools are definitely a problem despite what the data says, they must be hiding cases" - a ridiculous proposition.

    It's perfectly acceptable to make fun of ridiculous opinions.

    Whilst it's not reported and I'm not going to give away names, I know admin workers in 3 schools in my county. The workers who are my friends dont know each other.
    The 3 schools had multiple cases according to them.

    Now, either you are lying to cover yourself and your opinion or the people working in the schools are lying.

    Personally speaking, I don't care. I just think it's fascinating to make fun of opinions that aren't yours and that could be true. I mean, NPHET weren't exactly professional yesterday. It was laughable! Tony Holohan has previous trying to hide things... I dont blame people for being wary.


  • #7511
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Then don't do christmas dinner with him.

    If you can't take measures to ensure the elderly are safe enough, then don't risk it.

    My granda died in 1970


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  • #7512
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    My granda died in 1970

    sorry for your loss

    was it the windows that got him?


  • #7513
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Whilst it's not reported and I'm not going to give away names, I know admin workers in 3 schools in my county. The workers who are my friends dont know each other.
    The 3 schools had multiple cases according to them.

    Now, either you are lying to cover yourself and your opinion or the people working in the schools are lying.
    Nobody's lying. Nobody is saying schools don't have cases.

    Just that schools aren't a major driver of transmission.

    We don't have significant numbers of outbreaks in schools.


  • #7514
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Generally I would have been in favour of pubs remaining closed but I think they should be allowed open, maybe from the second week of December, it might cut down on the 12 pubs nonsense of they are not allowed open too early in December.

    The reason I think pubs should be open is because a lot of families force themselves on each other at Christmas because its a done thing, it's out of habit or tradition or something but many can't handle Christmas. Christmas can come with a lot of stress. All you have to do is turn on the news on St Stephens day and there's always some sort of a feud that got out of hand with a killing or 2. Then there's people rushing out into sales. Are people really out to get a bargain or are they out to escape from the family for a while. Same with pubs. Some people go to the pubs to get away from it all.
    Edit: if pubs aren't open that's going to trickle down into other issues and perhaps domestic violence.


  • #7515
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    people are morons

    Unfortunately as has been demonstrated in recent times a significant number are exactly that.


  • #7516
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,058 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Well its got us thinking about it at least. We have two sliding doors opening to a living area with a stove in it. If it were mild we could light the stove and open the doors wide and be reasonably comfortable.

    Anyway dunno what we will do yet.


  • #7517
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Right that's granddad sorted, what about grandma now? :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #7518
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    seamus wrote: »
    Nobody's lying. Nobody is saying schools don't have cases.

    Just that schools aren't a major driver of transmission.

    We don't have significant numbers of outbreaks in schools.

    By that same token then...

    The people who crammed into Dame Lane in the summer. Everyone saying there would be outbreaks and case numbers would rise... They didn't

    Pubs and restaurants opened, people saying cases would rise because of them... They didn't

    The Berlin Bar incident, people saying it would cause an outbreak... It didn't

    Pubs closed in Dublin in September, people saying cases would come down because of it... They didn't.

    See where I'm going with this?

    By your argument then, anyone saying pubs and restaurants should remain shut are being stupid, which I agree with entirely!


  • #7519
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Unfortunately as has been demonstrated in recent times a significant number are exactly that.

    The fact it took a once in a life time pandemic for you to reach that conclusion, speaks volumes.


  • #7520
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Right that's granddad sorted, what about grandma now? :)

    Put her outside, she can talk to him throughout the dinner from the garden.


  • #7521
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not really no, just common sense.

    You see common sense , I genuinely believe some of O'Neills comments and suggestions are akin to a windup.


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  • #7522
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Philip Ryan has another article on restrictions, more of the same really. Does hint that there could be more restrictions again as soon as January which probably isn't hugely surprising.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/revealed-the-plan-for-three-phases-of-restrictions-to-exit-lockdown-39785548.html


  • #7523
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Yep, it's embarrassing. If I see that guff on the RTE news I will demand a refund of the TV license. And some people have welcomed the new advice. Some people are too infected with Covid fear methinks.

    Some people have their heads buried in the sand and refuse to accept reality. As for demanding a refund of your TV licence good luck with that one pal. I think you will have a long wait.


  • #7524
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Right that's granddad sorted, what about grandma now? :)

    Set sail for Christmas on a gravy boat


  • #7525
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Philip Ryan has another article on restrictions, more of the same really. Does hint that there could be more restrictions again as soon as January which probably isn't hugely surprising.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/revealed-the-plan-for-three-phases-of-restrictions-to-exit-lockdown-39785548.html

    No surprise in the tiered way out.

    So we know first one 2nd December.

    I'd guess the week after restaurants and pubs serving food, gives them 2 weeks to Christmas.

    Intersting that RTE are reporting that government want restaurants and pubs serving food to remain open, no more of this open and closed again.


  • #7526
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,470 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Put her outside, she can talk to him throughout the dinner from the garden.

    According to this long range forecast, Xmas day looks 10C and sunny which should help the grandparents cope.
    A nice glass of warm gravy during dinner and Bob's your uncle (uninvited uncle).

    https://www.accuweather.com/en/ie/galway/208539/daily-weather-forecast/208539?day=32

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #7527
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You see common sense , I genuinely believe some of O'Neills comments and suggestions are akin to a windup.

    Assuming your theory is true, what would be the possible advantage for him in your opinion?


  • #7528
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,470 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You see common sense , I genuinely believe some of O'Neills comments and suggestions are akin to a windup.

    I agree. Someone in RTE should parse that shi-ite and not print it. Let the Sun readers gorge on that nonsense.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #7529
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You see common sense , I genuinely believe some of O'Neills comments and suggestions are akin to a windup.

    I was replying specifically to your comment about people using the toilet.

    I guess it comes down to minimising risk. The way he phrased it is fairly flippant but over 9 months in I don't think it's a shock that ventilation and reducing sharing items would be part of the guidelines. They're not going to say ''work away lads, be grand''.

    Some people find specific guidelines helpful, some will see it as OTT but it all comes down to level of risk people are willing to accept for themselves and others. It's treading very well worn territory.


  • #7530
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Philip Ryan has another article on restrictions, more of the same really. Does hint that there could be more restrictions again as soon as January which probably isn't hugely surprising.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/revealed-the-plan-for-three-phases-of-restrictions-to-exit-lockdown-39785548.html

    Death nail for the pub industry. I’ve friends who work or own pubs and they’ve had nothing but hurt since this all started.
    They did the right thing closing back in March but have been the constant scapegoats without even opening. The fact that they don’t want pubs using a local business to supply food is another kick in the teeth.
    They’ll keep beating these businesses until they see us sipping coffee instead of a pint!


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  • #7531
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Deaths have been very high for a sustained period now. Less than 1,000 people tested

    https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1331237643770867713


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