e-scooter regulations due before Christmas

No insurance either I would assume, with no licence or reg it couldn't be inforced

Anything with Eamon Ryan's name to it will end in tears in a few years time when everyone has scooters and they need revenue

Skill Magill wrote: »

No insurance either I would assume, with no licence or reg it couldn't be inforced

Why would you think that they need insurance?

Motor insurance is required due to the number of claims but More importantly the value of claims are beyond the men’s of most drivers.

Rear ending a car at lights at 10kmh can do several thousands worth of damage. + a couple of thousand for each occupant through Injury claims and loss of earnings etc.
A 15kg scooter is very different than a 1500kg car

Tinder Surprise wrote: »

Fingers crossed as this looks like good news...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eamon-ryan-opens-road-to-e-scooters-by-christmas-rxr5drnbc

Scooters will be:
banned from footpaths ✅
Limited to 25kph under law ✅
No driving licence required ✅

This would be good.

I would like to see a wide campaign from the RSA saying something like,

"E-scooters are now legal to use on Irish roads. They are a safe, comfortable and eco-friendly way of travelling short distances.
While using an e-scooter, you must obey the rules of the road, just like a bicycle. This means;

- You must not ride on a footpath under any circumstances.
- You must always obey traffic signals, Gardai and Traffic Wardens
- When turning onto a road, you must signal appropriately and wait for the way to be clear before proceeding.
- You must never ride in a way that causes danger to yourself or other road users or pedestrians.

Failure to obey the rules of the road will result in an on-the-spot fine or a court appearance."

Everywhere, all the time.

Of course, what will actually happen is that they'll fanfare the fact that e-scooters are legal, say nothing about how to use them, and two weeks later you'll have people blasting through parks and pedestrian streets on them "because they're legal".

ted1 wrote: »

That would be incorrect. Cyclists are not banned from footpaths, because the road can be a danger place for 3 year olds.
Also I don’t believe you need to signal. In many instances it can be dangerous to remove your hands from the bar.

Also speed limits don’t apply for cyclists.

So they are not the same.

the speed issue applies to e bikes, which are mech propelled, as are these scooters.

Re the path, you need to bone up on the law here before making such statement
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/cycling/cycling_offences.html

Is it legal to cycle on a footpath?
Since 2015 the laws governing cycling have been regulated into specific fixed charge offences. Gardaí have the power to stop and fine a cyclist if they commit a fixed charge offence. Cycling on a footpath is not a fixed charge offence. However other laws do include it as an offence.

Article 11 of the Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2012 prohibits you from cycling beyond a traffic sign that prohibits bicycles
Article 13 of the 1997 Regulations makes it an offence to cycle on a footpath unless you are entering or exiting a property
Article 45 of the 1997 Regulations (as amended by the Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) (Amendment) Regulations 1998), you must not cycle in a pedestrianised street or area during the period indicated by the sign
Although it is not a fixed charge offence to cycle on a footpath a cyclist could be fined for doing so if a Garda deemed their cycling to be without ’reasonable consideration‘.

Roads are dangerous places, period.
Danger, like covid, is not age sensitive

There is a huge difference between not indicating and just diving across.

What's the different from the perspective of following traffic, be their cars or other cyclists. Anyway its news to me that cyclists shouldnt use hand signals. Wouldn't let a kid out on the road if they couldnt use hand signals.