Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

drunk monkey right now

So, out of morbid fascination I dipped a toe in the crackpot corner of Twitter to see how they're taking today's developments, and it's as disturbing as it might be amusing under other circumstances.

There's a genuine emotional investment in all this Q stuff from these folks I find quite upsetting. They all seem so completely reliant on it as a kind of "community" substitute and it makes me wonder how many people in their real lives they've alienated in the process of sinking all the way into it.

But the doomsday cult thing of always moving the big day back is starting to feel really strained, even to them, after the Sidney Powell stuff. I don't think I really grasped just how entirely, unshakeably confident they were in "the Plan" to that point, and now aren't. It's all a bit weird and subdued after the GSA letter, and they're asking each other to come up with fanfiction about how it's secretly a positive next step for them. Others are snapping at each other for "losing faith" and talking big about how this is where the fake Trump followers will be exposed blah blah blah.

It just feels a bit brittle. Doesn't really feel like they can keep it going much longer even for their own benefit, and it's hard not to wonder what kind of effect it'll have on folks like this when they actually see Biden in the WH and there’s no more playing Let's Pretend. I don't think they'll suddenly quietly come back to Earth - I think a lot of them are beyond that point - but psychologically that's got to be a fairly major injury to the whole identity you've walled yourself into?

jill_valentine wrote: »

So, out of morbid fascination I dipped a toe in the crackpot corner of Twitter to see how they're taking today's developments, and it's as disturbing as it might be amusing under other circumstances.

There's a genuine emotional investment in all this Q stuff from these folks I find quite upsetting. They all seem so completely reliant on it as a kind of "community" substitute and it makes me wonder how many people in their real lives they've alienated in the process of sinking all the way into it.

But the doomsday cult thing of always moving the big day back is starting to feel really strained, even to them, after the Sidney Powell stuff. I don't think I really grasped just how entirely, unshakeably confident they were in "the Plan" to that point, and now aren't. It's all a bit weird and subdued after the GSA letter, and they're asking each other to come up with fanfiction about how it's secretly a positive next step for them. Others are snapping at each other for "losing faith" and talking big about how this is where the fake Trump followers will be exposed blah blah blah.

It just feels a bit brittle. Doesn't really feel like they can keep it going much longer even for their own benefit, and it's hard not to wonder what kind of effect it'll have on folks like this when they actually see Biden in the WH and there’s no more playing Let's Pretend. I don't think they'll suddenly quietly come back to Earth - I think a lot of them are beyond that point - but psychologically that's got to be a fairly major injury to the whole identity you've walled yourself into?

The Donald.win is still as confident as ever. Granted they see admitting the possibility of defeat as being as bad as being a democrat (or a f******, they are big into their homophobia which I guess is unsurprising).

I feel like a lot of papers could be written on the dillusions on that site.

jill_valentine wrote: »

So, out of morbid fascination I dipped a toe in the crackpot corner of Twitter to see how they're taking today's developments, and it's as disturbing as it might be amusing under other circumstances.

There's a genuine emotional investment in all this Q stuff from these folks I find quite upsetting. They all seem so completely reliant on it as a kind of "community" substitute and it makes me wonder how many people in their real lives they've alienated in the process of sinking all the way into it.

But the doomsday cult thing of always moving the big day back is starting to feel really strained, even to them, after the Sidney Powell stuff. I don't think I really grasped just how entirely, unshakeably confident they were in "the Plan" to that point, and now aren't. It's all a bit weird and subdued after the GSA letter, and they're asking each other to come up with fanfiction about how it's secretly a positive next step for them. Others are snapping at each other for "losing faith" and talking big about how this is where the fake Trump followers will be exposed blah blah blah.

It just feels a bit brittle. Doesn't really feel like they can keep it going much longer even for their own benefit, and it's hard not to wonder what kind of effect it'll have on folks like this when they actually see Biden in the WH and there’s no more playing Let's Pretend. I don't think they'll suddenly quietly come back to Earth - I think a lot of them are beyond that point - but psychologically that's got to be a fairly major injury to the whole identity you've walled yourself into?

Excellent post!
These people have invested so heavily that they'll need to be debriefed

duploelabs wrote: »

Deprogrammed tbf

something like this

bennyineire wrote: »

22 hours since a drunkenmonkey post on this thread, I wonder has he too finally conceded :pac::pac:

they were threadbanned

jill_valentine wrote: »

It just feels a bit brittle. Doesn't really feel like they can keep it going much longer even for their own benefit, and it's hard not to wonder what kind of effect it'll have on folks like this when they actually see Biden in the WH and there’s no more playing Let's Pretend. I don't think they'll suddenly quietly come back to Earth - I think a lot of them are beyond that point - but psychologically that's got to be a fairly major injury to the whole identity you've walled yourself into?

I happen to have been reading this in the last week or so;
https://www.thecut.com/2015/10/what-happens-when-the-world-doesnt-end.html

It's the same kind of idea; what happens to Doomsday cult members when things don't come to pass as they were so certain they would.

I expect in the case of QAnon stuff, they'll probably fracture into two. People who put more stock in prophesy and "meant to be", will probably rewrite the narrative so that it doesn't matter when Trump succeeds, they'll just maintain their surity that he will and will recede further into the insane shadows as Trump get silenced on more and more mainstream platforms.

Others, who are merely more confident/hopeful that it must work out - like our local inebriated ape - will probably just kind of slink away from it all, disappointed, but quickly bouncing back as they lie to themselves and say they weren't all that invested in it and they always had doubts. They just thought Trump was a better man than Biden.

It's funny, I was literally just looking for an Irish bookseller for When Prophecy Fails, the book they mention there, it seems to be the big iconic work in the field. Just passed this tweet -

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnnynuke/status/1330995663333715971

"What else is there" seems to be an increasingly common sentiment, which is just very sad to think about. They have the self awareness to understand it's not what they expected, but take that to mean they're too deeply committed to turn back now rather than "Huh, guess I shouldn't sink any more of my life into this"

They're never going to come back from where they've gone. You'll never get them to understand they just hurled themselves into a word game of gibberish. The most you'll ever get out of them, maybe, is is "Biden got away with (gibberish)".

silverharp wrote: »

I see calls for Trump to pardon Assange and Snowden . I hope he does

Assange, maybe.

Snowden, never.

silverharp wrote: »

I see calls for Trump to pardon Assange and Snowden . I hope he does

Snowden, would be great. Reality Winner too. Assange... I'm a lot more dubious of, so naturally I'd say he'll get it.

Trump's main concern is now to make life as difficult for the incoming administration as possible. Besides that, he may try and do some stuff or try and take some credit for stuff that he can build a 2024 platform on. I'm thinking he'll be trying to lean heavy on the vaccine thing. Pardoning the likes of Snowden and Assange will be down the list of priorities. Himself and Steve Bannon would be first in line for pardons.

jill_valentine wrote: »

They're never going to come back from where they've gone. You'll never get them to understand they just hurled themselves into a word game of gibberish. The most you'll ever get out of them, maybe, is is "Biden got away with (gibberish)".

They can't, they have invested so much in the conspiracy lunacy that to back out now woud be an adminssion that they were a) totally conned and b) conned because they weren't smart enough to see through the con.

David Aaronovitch's Voodoo Histories is a great read about conspiracy theories

Does Trump realise that Quaid is reading one of Trump's tweets. He is taking the p out of him and he doesn't even realise it.

Leroy42 wrote: »

Does Trump realise that Quaid is reading one of Trump's tweets. He is taking the p out of him and he doesn't even realise it.

are you sure he is taking the piss? Randy went off the deep end quite a while ago.