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Gatling wrote: »

There was a lady on the radio a few minutes ago giving it socks about the assaults on the victims of these supposed leaks ,

Linda Hayden? From the Victims Alliance?
She has been the driving voice behind news of the leak, has been on quite a bit of media about it.

Yet still no actual evidence, and rather than hand evidence of this offender to Law enforcement?
They told his mammy?

anewme wrote: »

The opinion on here is not unexpected, But does not reflect the real world.

No you speak for yourself and the majority on here don't support that ,you don't and can't speak for anyone in the so called real world

banie01 wrote: »

Linda Hayden? From the Victims Alliance?
She has been the driving voice behind news of the leak, has been on quite a bit of media about it.

Yet still no actual evidence, and rather than hand evidence of this offender to Law enforcement?
They told his mammy?

Exactly.

Yes she stated she traced this young to new Zealand and managed to some how trace his parents and contacted them directly and had an awkward conversation ,

Hello is that morals police I'd like to report a non crime and can you can I have a phone number to contact someone's parents about looking at photos on line .

silverharp wrote: »

If a member of the public had filmed it they would have been free to upload it unless there is some peculiar Irish law. I could see that the garda should have been disciplined but is there a specific law relating to gardai? if the footage had been of an embarrassing car crash that went viral, would it be the same offense?

Perhaps the same offence, but the gravity of it would be different, given that it is foreseeable that the sharing of such a video would cause considerable harm and distress to the person identified in the video.

Whatever about Joe Public being an asshole, a Garda sharing such a video undermines public confidence in the force that is assumed/required to have their best interests at heart.

Sharing an embarrasing car crash, while it would be an abuse of power and obviously a breach discipline to be sharing CCTV feeds, it not likely to result in considerable harm or distress to anyone, and thus would not be as serious an offence.

Akrasia wrote: »

Do you think she just found a random 16 year old New Zealander and emailed his parents about a made up charge?

I believe she made up the claim .

seamus wrote: »

Perhaps the same offence, but the gravity of it would be different, given that it is foreseeable that the sharing of such a video would cause considerable harm and distress to the person identified in the video.

Whatever about Joe Public being an asshole, a Garda sharing such a video undermines public confidence in the force that is assumed/required to have their best interests at heart.

Sharing an embarrasing car crash, while it would be an abuse of power and obviously a breach discipline to be sharing CCTV feeds, it not likely to result in considerable harm or distress to anyone, and thus would not be as serious an offence.

A quick spin through Twitter suggests the garda hasnt been charged but may have been fired.

seamus wrote: »

Sharing an embarrasing car crash, while it would be an abuse of power and obviously a breach discipline to be sharing CCTV feeds, it not likely to result in considerable harm or distress to anyone, and thus would not be as serious an offence.

I’m not sure if you recall a crash on the M50 last year where a woman was decapitated in an accident.

Some rubber neck videoed her head at the scene and it went viral. This compounded the families distress and they came out and spoke about it. So I disagree about it not causing considerable distress.

Akrasia wrote: »

Is this because you think she couldn’t have found a 16 year old New Zealander involved in this kind of thing, or shouldn’t have?

Do you think revenge porn is completely fabricated? Because I have personal knowledge of a man who took photographs of his then partner while she was sleeping and then threatened to post them online when their relationship broke down

In the case she claimed I believe she made it all up to gain some kind of likes and status and effect for her story .

On the second point what you described is revenge porn and it's he's a complete scumbag but there is several law covering the subject ,in that case imo , revenge porn , domestic abuse and coercive control .

Onlyfans isn't the same thing it's sex workers selling their photos and videos and in many cases making large amount of money doing so and undeclared income I believe , that's about only about money they the sex workers see their income fall if their videos and photos are readily available free .
It's nothing to do with revenge porn or blackmail it's about money and nothing more ,

Explain why none of these activists have called for controls to be put on these sites such as onlyfans , instead they are pushing the site as some kind of legimate employment minus paying taxes and the likes

anewme wrote: »

The key words here is without consent.

When people see there are criminal repercussions for doing this, they might think twice before doing it.

How about we protect young girls and women in the first place by removing the porn streaming sites and block them from recruiting girls to Stream porn , victim advocates promoting porn streaming sites under some kind of guise of defending victims of a non crime,

seamus wrote: »

There has unfortunately been several distinct issues thrown into one here, and the narrative around it is dangerously close to, "We need laws to protect women from men" as opposed to "we need laws to protect people".

An unrelated case that's been throw into the mix is that of Dara Quigley. She had a mental break, was arrested walking down a Dublin street naked. A Garda later filmed the CCTV footage and shared it on WhatsApp.

Clearly, this Garda should be prosecuted.

But it's not the same thing as the distribution of private intimate material in the form of a pornography collection.

My worry is that my conflating all of these unrelated issues into one - revenge porn, child porn, exploitation, copyright - there's a risk that it will get dismissed as man-hating women wanting to make it illegal to look at a naked woman, and the very real problem of sharing private sexual material will be lost in the noise.

Agreed.
There are a numerous issues at play here.

Gatling wrote: »

How about we protect young girls and women in the first place by removing the porn streaming sites and block them from recruiting girls to Stream porn , victim advocates promoting porn streaming sites under some kind of guise of defending victims of a non crime,

Because you see it as a non crime - does not mean others do. If its going in front of Govt to be signed into legislation, then you can believe that there are many who do see it as a crime.

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Why are people creating and sending these compromising images?
Once you send an image or video, you lose control of it. The only way to stop these being passed around is to not take and send them in the first place.

That is part of the thinking behind the legislation. It is pushing responsibilty back on those who download and shared it.

Rephrase your words - the way to stop passing around other peoples images is to not do it - - you will end up being prosecuted.

anewme wrote: »

That is part of the thinking behind the legislation. It is pushing responsibilty back on those who download and shared it.

Rephrase your words - the way to stop passing around other peoples images is to not do it - - you will end up being prosecuted.

The thing is, you won't end up being presecuted. Particularily if legislation looks to meld all these issues into one.

Making the sharing of "copyrighted" material a criminal offence, just because it is of a sexual nature, even though the creator had no issues selling that material online is only going to waste valuable resources that could better be used to at least try and prosecute those that create and share child porn, and material that was never intended for public consumption.