Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Guy:Incognito · 21-11-2020 03:27PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Excellent. Hopefully they can put something together. By the looks of it Trumps plan wont survive a court case

Is this thread your sole source of information that isnt provided via the means of Trumps twitter or press conferences?

For someone so willing to go all in on Trump, you seem to completely block out any information regarding his rivals.

Inquitus · 21-11-2020 03:28PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

It's in the post you quoted. If its legally full of holes and is pulled apart in court then it's a farce designed to distract. Just like I said.

Will the Biden administration tackle drug pricing?

To be fair the Drug Pricing initiative is one of the better things Trump has done as president!

ExMachina1000 · 21-11-2020 03:29PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is this thread your sole source of information that isnt provided via the means of Tumps twitter or press conferences?

For someone so willing to go all in on Trump, you seem to completely block out any information regarding his rivals.

I posted a link to where I read about the plan and the condemnation by Democrats and the pharmaceutical industry. It was a CNN link?

I also wrote that if it was full of holes then it would be a farce just designed to distract.

Someone posted Bidens campaign promises re drug pricing which I acknowledged.

You might be looking for an angle that simply doesn't exist

21-11-2020 03:29PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is this thread your sole source of information that isnt provided via the means of Tumps twitter or press conferences?

For someone so willing to go all in on Trump, you seem to completely block out any information regarding his rivals.

Agreed. Most of your questions in the last hour could have been answered in seconds if you typed them word for word into Google. Not quite sure why you prefer to wait for someone to answer it instead.

astrofool · 21-11-2020 03:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Agreed. Most of your questions in the last hour could have been answered in seconds if you typed them word for word into Google. Not quite sure why you prefer to wait for someone to answer it instead.

I honestly don't know if it's someone pretending to ask loaded questions, and then answers them in the negative for Biden and positive for trump based off their own thoughts, or someone who genuinely doesn't know how to search for stuff on the internet.

ExMachina, can you answer the above and put us all at ease? I mean, if it's the former, at least we can understand and run searches for you.

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-11-2020 03:37PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I posted a link to where I read about the plan and the condemnation by Democrats and the pharmaceutical industry. It was a CNN link?

I also wrote that if it was full of holes then it would be a farce just designed to distract.

Someone posted Bidens campaign promises re drug pricing which I acknowledged.

You might be looking for an angle that simply doesn't exist

Lmao, thats priceless coming from you :pac:

ExMachina1000 · 21-11-2020 03:39PM

astrofool wrote: »

I honestly don't know if it's someone pretending to ask loaded questions, and then answers them in the negative for Biden and positive for trump based off their own thoughts, or someone who genuinely doesn't know how to search for stuff on the internet.

ExMachina, can you answer the above and put us all at ease? I mean, if it's the former, at least we can understand and run searches for you.

Consider me a someone who doesn't particularly like Trump or Biden but is unwilling to just go along with the anti either posts for the sake of it.

An example would be the grifting for donations that Trump is doing. I acknowledge this put also pointed out that Biden is doing same.

Both deserve the same level of scrutiny and I'm happy to be proved wrong either way.

This whole negative for Biden put positive for trump line isnt true. An example would be me saying if Trumps drug pricing plan is pulled apart in court because it is full of holes then it is a farce designed to distract.

Asking if Biden has a plan is not a crime is it? I read the link to his website and acknowledged that yes he does have a plan.

Too much of this you are with us or against is mentality going on with some posters on both "sides"

astrofool · 21-11-2020 03:52PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Consider me a someone who doesn't particularly like Trump or Biden but is unwilling to just go along with the anti either posts for the sake of it.

An example would be the grifting for donations that Trump is doing. I acknowledge this put also pointed out that Biden is doing same.

Both deserve the same level of scrutiny and I'm happy to be proved wrong either way.

This whole negative for Biden put positive for trump line isnt true. An example would be me saying if Trumps drug pricing plan is pulled apart in court because it is full of holes then it is a farce designed to distract.

Asking if Biden has a plan is not a crime is it? I read the link to his website and acknowledged that yes he does have a plan.

Too much of this you are with us or against is mentality going on with some posters on both "sides"

But you do concede that most of the questions you ask can be answered in a few seconds?

As this is a discussion forum, most people expect a certain level of being informed from people who post on the subject, your pattern has been "ask question", talk about your question as if the answer was negative, get answered correctly to the positive, say "right, so", disappear for a day, and then come back with a similar question.

It's fine not to know, but then lead with that, instead of making baseless accusations at both sides, people will then know they can link you back to facts and figures. You're not the only one, there's a few people over on the COVID forum who do similar, but people have learned to filter them out or ignore them.

ExMachina1000 · 21-11-2020 03:58PM

astrofool wrote: »

But you do concede that most of the questions you ask can be answered in a few seconds?

As this is a discussion forum, most people expect a certain level of being informed from people who post on the subject, your pattern has been "ask question", talk about your question as if the answer was negative, get answered correctly to the positive, say "right, so", disappear for a day, and then come back with a similar question.

It's fine not to know, but then lead with that, instead of making baseless accusations at both sides, people will then know they can link you back to facts and figures. You're not the only one, there's a few people over on the COVID forum who do similar, but people have learned to filter them out or ignore them.

You are saying it's a discussion forum but at the same time are saying you don't want to talk about anything because I'm asking questions that in your opinion I should already know the answer to.

My "right so" replies as you put it in reality are me acknowledging someone else's point which may prove me wrong. I think that possibly the frustration on your side is because I'm not digging my heels in and spending hours arguing. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. I accept that. Iv already said this.

A poster replied to me this morning saying I refused to answer his question about immigration.

I replied that if answered it twice but will happily answer again if he wants to ask me.

He disappeared after that. What am I supposed to do?

astrofool · 21-11-2020 04:01PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

You are saying it's a discussion forum but at the same time are saying you don't want to talk about anything because I'm asking questions that in your opinion I should already know the answer to.

My "right so" replies as you put it in reality are me acknowledging someone else's point which may prove me wrong. I think that possibly the frustration on your side is because I'm not digging my heels in and spending hours arguing. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. I accept that. Iv already said this.

It's not a discussion if it's just "Here's a question", "Here's the answer", but it's fine (that's what Google does), everyone knows how to answer your questions now, or can just ignore and move on with discussion.

ChikiChiki · 21-11-2020 04:03PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Nancy calling POTUS a psycho

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1329846083124662275

It is a reasonable assessment and should be levelled at him from all quarters.

ExMachina1000 · 21-11-2020 04:03PM

astrofool wrote: »

It's not a discussion if it's just "Here's a question", "Here's the answer", but it's fine (that's what Google does), everyone knows how to answer your questions now, or can just ignore and move on with discussion.

Discussion is debate with both sides making points and asking questions.

That is not what's happening.

But if that's what you want then no problem. Put me on your ignore list and carry on. All good

21-11-2020 04:04PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

You are saying it's a discussion forum but at the same time are saying you don't want to talk about anything because I'm asking questions that in your opinion I should already know the answer to.

Not that you should already know, but that you should use Google to answer.

For example, why ask "Will the Biden administration tackle drug pricing?" on a discussion forum instead of using Google? Google will take you directly to Joe Biden's page where it is described in detail, rather than give you a one or two sentence reply that you would get here eventually rather than instantly.

A discussion forum would instead be used to debate whether we think his policies are good or bad, not what they are in the first place.

ExMachina1000 · 21-11-2020 04:06PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not that you should already know, but that you should use Google to answer.

For example, why ask "Will the Biden administration tackle drug pricing?" on a discussion forum instead of using Google? Google will take you directly to Joe Biden's page where it is described in detail, rather than give you a one or two sentence reply that you would get here eventually rather than instantly.

A discussion forum would instead be used to debate whether we think his policies are good or bad, not what they are in the first place.

So don't ask questions because Google can answer them.
Instead just post comments.

I disagree but if that's your line of thought so be it. You can also add me to the ignore list if you wish

21-11-2020 04:12PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

So don't ask questions because Google can answer them.
Instead just post comments.

That's not what I said at all. Did you read my last sentence?

What is the benefit to you of someone on a discussion forum, who might be lying, telling you what Biden's drug pricing policies are, rather than reading about them directly from the source?

briany · 21-11-2020 04:26PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

It is a reasonable assessment and should be levelled at him from all quarters.

It should be, but all it will do is make Trump double down even harder. The man feeds off of hatred and attention. The best way of dealing with him is to nudge him and his supporters into political isolation and irrelevance.

astrofool · 21-11-2020 04:43PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Discussion is debate with both sides making points and asking questions.

That is not what's happening.

But if that's what you want then no problem. Put me on your ignore list and carry on. All good

But you're lacking the "making points" bit because you don't know the answer to any question.

As I said, it's fine, it was really to understand what angle you were coming at, now everybody knows, they can answer appropriately, no need for ignore lists.

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-11-2020 05:32PM

Is Rudi holding another presser later?

Fingers crossed :pac:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330148622898515969?s=19

Kermit.de.frog · 21-11-2020 05:41PM

There is no path for him and he knows it.

His Russian handlers must be telling him to create as much chaos as possible on the way out.

TheRepentent · 21-11-2020 05:57PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There is no path for him and he knows it.

His Russian handlers must be telling him to create as much chaos as possible on the way out.

He's cr@pping himself..come January he knows he has no protection and is fair game for all the DA's to gun for him.

Tony EH · 21-11-2020 06:15PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PascrellforNJ/status/1329875147067625474?s=20

Be interesting to see how this might pan out.

To put it frankly, it's about bloody time.

I was wondering whether there was some sort of sanction for filing tons of useless, time wasting, fraudulent lawsuits.

briany · 21-11-2020 06:19PM

TheRepentent wrote: »

He's cr@pping himself..come January he knows he has no protection and is fair game for all the DA's to gun for him.

If he's so worried about that, he can try to resign and have Pence pardon him.

If that's not a goer, he can always try to get to a country without an extradition treaty with the U.S.

But even more than all that, I'm not sure of the wisdom in prosecuting Trump immediately after, or soon after, leaving office. In case anyone hadn't noticed, the political atmosphere in the U.S. is incredibly tense at the moment and prosecuting the god-emperor of one side mightn't be the best way to cool things down. This is not to say that Trump is undeserving of prosecution, but prosecutors have to seriously ask the question of whether it would be worth it no matter what.

TheRepentent · 21-11-2020 06:25PM

briany wrote: »

If he's so worried about that, he can try to resign and have Pence pardon him.

If that's not a goer, he can always try to get to a country without an extradition treaty with the U.S.

But even more than all that, I'm not sure of the wisdom in prosecuting Trump immediately after, or soon after, leaving office. In case anyone hadn't noticed, the political atmosphere in the U.S. is incredibly tense at the moment and prosecuting the god-emperor of one side mightn't be the best way to cool things down. This is not to say that Trump is undeserving of prosecution, but prosecutors have to seriously ask the question of whether it would be worth it no matter what.

Yeah I think they will hold off before starting anything.

Think he can only get pardoned for Federal crimes ? (open to correction on that)

eagle eye · 21-11-2020 06:30PM

briany wrote:

But even more than all that, I'm not sure of the wisdom in prosecuting Trump immediately after, or soon after, leaving office. In case anyone hadn't noticed, the political atmosphere in the U.S. is incredibly tense at the moment and prosecuting the god-emperor of one side mightn't be the best way to cool things down. This is not to say that Trump is undeserving of prosecution, but prosecutors have to seriously ask the question of whether it would be worth it no matter what.

I never thought of that side of things. Best wait a year and see how things are then.

21-11-2020 06:35PM

briany wrote: »

If he's so worried about that, he can try to resign and have Pence pardon him.

If that's not a goer, he can always try to get to a country without an extradition treaty with the U.S.

But even more than all that, I'm not sure of the wisdom in prosecuting Trump immediately after, or soon after, leaving office. In case anyone hadn't noticed, the political atmosphere in the U.S. is incredibly tense at the moment and prosecuting the god-emperor of one side mightn't be the best way to cool things down. This is not to say that Trump is undeserving of prosecution, but prosecutors have to seriously ask the question of whether it would be worth it no matter what.

Thoe responsible for state prosecution might wait a short while, but don't think that the banks he owes money to will, if he can't pay.

Tippex · 21-11-2020 06:48PM

briany wrote: »

If he's so worried about that, he can try to resign and have Pence pardon him.

If that's not a goer, he can always try to get to a country without an extradition treaty with the U.S.

But even more than all that, I'm not sure of the wisdom in prosecuting Trump immediately after, or soon after, leaving office. In case anyone hadn't noticed, the political atmosphere in the U.S. is incredibly tense at the moment and prosecuting the god-emperor of one side mightn't be the best way to cool things down. This is not to say that Trump is undeserving of prosecution, but prosecutors have to seriously ask the question of whether it would be worth it no matter what.

I have seen something recently that as a former president you do not go back to your former life of freedoms as such. you are assigned a permanent Secret Service detail (you can opt-out of that). But as a former president, you are still read into a lot of the security briefings etc and as such your travel is restricted so it's not like he can just jump on trump air and fly to a non-extradition country without being tagged (not to say he won't try it).

ExMachina1000 · 21-11-2020 06:51PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Is Rudi holding another presser later?

Fingers crossed :pac:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330148622898515969?s=19

It would make you wonder if they actually believe it themselves anymore or they are just going for broke because they cant turn back now.

Trump, Trump jr and Rudi need to follow their own words and stand back and stand down (instead of stand by)

biko · 21-11-2020 06:58PM

gmisk wrote: »

John Oliver fantastic as usual
https://youtu.be/cMz_sTgoydQ
It really shows how ridiculous the voter fraud claims are.

Also Oliver, but on voting machines 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svEuG_ekNT0

John Oliver on exploitable voting machines: 'We must fix this'
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/nov/04/john-oliver-exploitable-voting-machines

PropJoe10 · 21-11-2020 07:02PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

It would make you wonder if they actually believe it themselves anymore or they are just going for broke because they cant turn back now.

Trump, Trump jr and Rudi need to follow their own words and stand back and stand down (instead of stand by)

Nah, they're only concerned with destabilising Biden's presidency as much as possible now, and this will continue for the next 4 years. That's the type of people that you're dealing with here. Zero interest in the well-being of the country.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 21-11-2020 07:04PM

I’ve been fascinated by the lack of comment on Trump’s antics by various right wing commentators who live to stick the boot into “lefties”. But I didn’t expect Douglas Murray to be so goddamn brazen when he eventually did write about this fiasco. Plenty of evidence of fraud but Trump hasn’t produced any yet? Mmmkay, Douglas.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/donald-trump-wont-leave-me-alone

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