ASTI members vote for industrial action over Covid issues

Augeo wrote: »

What should I get a grip of?

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Really is pathetic your utter hatred towards anyone connected to education.

I feel sorry for people who feel like you.

That simply isn't true as a statement. Again, answer the question as to who you wish to be prioritised before?

Teachers are mixing with children who are less prone to get the virus and less prone to spread the virus. All of the others are either working in environments where the virus can easily spread, in the high-risk or very high-risk categories, meeting large numbers of adults on a daily basis or are working caring for those in high risk and very high risk categories.

So again, please explain to me which teachers want to be prioritised ahead of and why?

blanch152 wrote: »

That simply isn't true as a statement. Again, answer the question as to who you wish to be prioritised before?

Teachers are mixing with children who are less prone to get the virus and less prone to spread the virus. All of the others are either working in environments where the virus can easily spread, in the high-risk or very high-risk categories, meeting large numbers of adults on a daily basis or are working caring for those in high risk and very high risk categories.

So again, please explain to me which teachers want to be prioritised ahead of and why?

Explain to me why we shouldn't be considered for the vaccine? In a primary class the only people wearing a mask are the adults.

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Glad to see that teachers, especially primary are considered expendable. Remember we have on average 27/28 in a class, no masks. Open the windows is the height of it.

Nobody is considered expendable.

Again, please explain to us where teachers should rank in priority. Who should get the vaccine before them and who has to wait in line behind them?

I would let teachers have the vaccine ahead of me, they can have priority over me. However, all the categories I have listed, and a few more, deserve the vaccine before teachers.

Do you agree?

blanch152 wrote: »

Nobody is considered expendable.

Again, please explain to us where teachers should rank in priority. Who should get the vaccine before them and who has to wait in line behind them?

I would let teachers have the vaccine ahead of me, they can have priority over me. However, all the categories I have listed, and a few more, deserve the vaccine before teachers.

Do you agree?

Again should teachers not be considered like the others that you say are further up the queue than us?

We are essential when they want schools open but not essential enough when it comes to vaccines.

blanch152 wrote: »

Everybody will get a chance for the Covid vaccine, but they are asking to be prioritised. Prioritised before whom?

Prioritised before elderly people with underlying conditions who have been coccooning since March?
Prioritised before nurses?
Prioritised before firemen?
Prioritised before meat factory workers?
Prioritised before care workers?
Prioritised before retail workers who are in contact with hundreds of adults spreading the virus every day?
Prioritised before those in the high risk and very high risk categories?

If the answer to all of the above is no, then they are in the same line with the rest of us and what are they asking for? If the answer is yes to any of the above, how do they justify it?

Nurses firemen care workers already have access to the vaccine.

My niece is very high risk with Cystic Fibrosis, she got the vaccine weeks ago. My parents considered elderly already have access to the vaccine got it early October. Those who are high risk or cocooning are entitled to get the vaccine

The government not me put teachers on the same pedestal as frontline staff so treat us the same. I am a nurse I worked as one for 20 years, now I am a teacher, I didnt ask to be considered a frontline worker but the government have consistently trotted it out to pat us on the head.

You keep trying to make **** up to hype your anti teacher rhetoric. I dont care where they put teachers but if they insist on calling us frontline and even frontline heroes as they did on the radiothen give me the same PPE and treat me properly when it comes to identifying close contacts, and testing.

Teachers have even been referred to on here as frontline when it suits people to keep schools open
FOr months your posts have contained anti teacher rhetoric get over it

Augeo wrote: »

Maybe yourself and the other poster need to get over it?

Thank you for your deep insight

Personally I think the priority should be

Frontline staff , ie doctors , nurses carers , ambulance crews , phyios , GPs , porters etc



all Care home workers including catering staff .

Over 85
Over 70

Vulnerable and immuno compromised

Over 65

Pharmacy workers

Primary teachers
Primary school children
Secondary teachers

Retail floor staff


The rest of society

blackbox wrote: »

Which Covid vaccine was that? I wasn't aware that any had received final approval yet?

flu vaccine for those

ceegee wrote: »

I'm not sure how GPs can be considered front line but not pharmacy staff.

Its just my opinion but GPs are hands on and in very close contact
Any pharmacy I have been in have plastic screens between them and the customer

Hospital pharmacist maybe a different matter .

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Its just my opinion but GPs are hands on and in very close contact
Any pharmacy I have been in have plastic screens between them and the customer

Hospital pharmacist maybe a different matter .

There's screens at the counters, but administering vaccines (be it an injection for adults or nasal spray for kids), checking blood pressure etc needs pharmacists to be in very close contact with patients.
While GP surgeries were doing mostly phone consultations during the first wave, pharmacies remained open to the public