Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

Westernworld. wrote: »

I know now

I’m a mind of useless information, a really popular guest at dinner parties......well I was before they were made illegal!

Peter Flynt wrote: »

The lowest point of the NPHET blame game on rising virus figures has to be the blaming of the dead and their funerals.

I really wonder what sort of people we have as doctors in Ireland.

Sigh....

They aren't blaming the dead and their funerals. I'm sorry, that's just a stupid thing to say.

They pointed out that there has been clusters associated with funerals where people are gathering in large numbers and forgetting or disregarding the advice about limiting the spread of the virus.

They have to point this out because it is a problem, it has led to clusters of cases and older people, who are most at risk from virus, are going to be present, usually, at funerals and the wakes etc, etc that happen around funerals.

I can not understand the mentality of a lot of people who always want to lash out at NPHET and what they say, when all they are doing is trying to give the best advice they can from a public health perspective - and a lot of these same people have (a) not fully understood what NPHET have said in the first place and (b) have made no attempt to think about why NPHET is actually giving this advice. It honestly makes you despair.

wadacrack wrote: »

Lower positivity rate than Ireland but taking appropriate action.


https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1329173037657231360

Thanksgiving next week could mean things get worse there

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prunudo wrote: »

Watching the Tonight Show, Billy Kelleher says the numbers arent where they thought they would be, why oh why do Matt Cooper and every other reporter/presenter for that matter let them away with these remarks while not addressing the numbers of health care workers testing positive.

The numbers aren't where they expected them to be - even if you perform the mental gymnastics of disregarding health care workers numbers and pretending they aren't somehow people who live in the community too.

growleaves wrote: »

Village Magazine reported in July that Irish healthcare workers accounted for 35% of cases.

Recently on this thread I saw the figure 23% quoted.

But hey they're in the community same as anyone else maybe they're going to shebeens after work or something.

Did you not hear that every single healthcare worker in Ireland lives with other healthcare workers?

Arghus wrote: »

The numbers aren't where they expected them to be - even if you perform the mental gymnastics of disregarding health care workers numbers and pretending they aren't somehow people who live in the community too.

Nope but we do have 2 weeks to further dent numbers

So do you think we should continue with level 5 on 1st of December or ease restrictions?

Arghus wrote: »

The numbers aren't where they expected them to be - even if you perform the mental gymnastics of disregarding health care workers numbers and pretending they aren't somehow people who live in the community too.

Take out hcw and you're below 300 and closer to the target figure with still 2 weeks to go. Now I'm not naive enough to think it would zero either but its just that when politicians or experts rabbit off figures, presenters never seem to question them. Seems to be far greater breakdown of data available on here than what the presenters have at hand to question their guests.

caveat emptor wrote: »

This looks nice, do you think if we get all of our kids to send a letter to Michael Martin instead of Santa that this might happen?

https://twitter.com/NICU_doc_salone/status/1329013774389444619?s=20

ha pipedream

How is Mr Conroy going to get the Northern Irish executive to agree to the same restrictions we have down here?

BringBackMick wrote: »

I have noticed a massive increase over last , probably just 5 days of people totally fed up with restrictions

I reckon there is no chance of buy-in if they attempt to extends these restrictions

People are close to breaking point

I am in Dublin...

So it has pretty much been same regulations for 3 months now

I have straw polled and 8/10 will do what they want from 1 December ( be that going home or having family over etc.)

Yes a lot of people are well and truly sick of restrictions

Restrictions certainly won't work without public buy in

Good luck to NPHET and the government trying to sell any extension of level 5 in December

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Nope but we do have 2 weeks to further dent numbers

So do you think we should continue with level 5 on 1st of December or ease restrictions?

I think we should continue until we have cases in at least high double digits and see where we are then, whether that's the 1st of December or the 10th of December. That's my unambiguous answer.

My ambiguous answer would be that, possibly, keeping level three restrictions in place from December 1st might be enough to keep a lid on things for a while. But that is a very strong might be. Level 2 doesn't seem to keep much of a lid on things if you're already at a situation of 200-300 cases a day to begin with and you're heading into a month of increased indoor congregation and socialising more so than any other month of the year. In doesn't take a genius to figure out where you'll be once again in a very, very short space of time.

caveat emptor wrote: »

Go for a walk. Will do you a world of good.

He’s not wrong though, your posting style is skirting the edge of trolling at times.

If you truly think zero Covid is achievable here perhaps you could detail how that would be done?

BringBackMick wrote: »

I have noticed a massive increase over last , probably just 5 days of people totally fed up with restrictions

I reckon there is no chance of buy-in if they attempt to extends these restrictions

People are close to breaking point

I am in Dublin...

So it has pretty much been same regulations for 3 months now

I have straw polled and 8/10 will do what they want from 1 December ( be that going home or having family over etc.)

Your spot on. It will be 10 weeks since we could go to local restaurant or leave Dublin by Dec.

Might not seem like a big deal but people have had enough.

Level 3 is useless of its one we have had in Dublin.

Let's just open things up, put in safety measures + get on with it.

Sure if the schools are such safe places + we can seat within 1 m why is a restaurant or hotel any different?