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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #4982
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Kalyke wrote: »
    Crass

    What's crass about it?

    Are you suggesting he's going to spend Christmas alone, in a bid to stop the spread of the virus?

    Calling me crass, in a sentence that contains Tony Holohan's name :D Oh you have a very short memory


  • #4983
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Benimar wrote: »
    Any answer you get will basically amount to ‘restrict the things that have no impact on me’.

    that's what a lot of answers end up being.

    it's baffling how people's anger is directed towards the public health experts and not the people breaking guidelines.


  • #4984
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    Kermit speaks the truth and a cohort on here can't handle it.

    I love Kermit. I want to have his tadpoles.

    Ay up, Miss Piggy has logged in


  • #4985
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,222 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Did you hear about all those deaths in France, Italy and other countries that aren't Ireland. Rather upsetting isn't it, although not upsetting enough that I won't use those fatalities as leverage to keep banging the same drum every single day.

    I'm not the one failing to understand cause and effect.

    Some keep bringing up how well we are doing compared to the continent.

    They stop short of saying why of course.

    The reason is because of the mitigation measures in place which work to suppress the spread of the virus.

    It's not interpretation, it's reality.


  • #4986
    Fast Twitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Ay up, Miss Piggy has logged in

    Ay up. Lily Sue the jealous pig is in the sty. You have to know your Muppets coming on here.


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  • #4987
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    froog wrote: »
    so people are annoyed with lockdowns and NPHET. i can understand that, but I am still not hearing any alternatives. everytime i ask, i am given an answer that basically amounts to lockdowns with some pubs open thrown in occasionally.

    I am annoyed that our guidelines are idealistic and don't take into account human behaviour. People will socialise. Instead of encouraging safe/safer ways of doing so, they've stuck their heads in the sand and pretended people are going to just continue to lock themselves away. That won't and isn't happening. So we've got 5km rules which mean I can't go for a hike, golf in a field is banned, they tried to ban takeaway pints instead of getting the gardai to clear large gatherings. 3 of us sitting in a park with pints is minimal danger, just clear the silly stuff.

    So, with this, they've taken away all avenues of socialising, which just leads to people breaking the rules, often in more risky fashion.

    So yes I disagree with what we've done. And I'm sure I'll get replies saying people are idiots for socialising, the government can't do anything to help them etc. etc. but if your plan is for our society to completely stop socialising, it is doomed for failure before it even begins. Taking the idealistic approach might give you some faux moral high ground, but it doesn't make it more effective.


    I also ideologically disagree with this much government interference in our daily lives but that's for another debate.


  • #4988
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    We will be back at level 3 till late February, maybe 10 days of level 2 around Christmas


  • #4989
    SPDUB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    MOR316 wrote: »
    What's crass about it?

    Are you suggesting he's going to spend Christmas alone, in a bid to stop the spread of the virus?

    Seriously , you're claiming you don't know why it's crass ?


  • #4990
    Fast Twitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Ay up, Miss Piggy has logged in

    Kermit will always be a legend. Spotted the Beast from the East 10 days out, King of Covid. You'll be just an unmemorable collection of 3 letters and 3 numbers.

    The king is in the building. You all show respect. A living legend of online activity in Ireland.


  • #4991
    ongarite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭ongarite


    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1328749684823891968

    Take-away pints is a convenient distraction from the reality that cases in nursing homes, care facilities are now the main driver of cases & deaths.
    The HSE and government have failed to protect these people again.
    Cases among the age groups certain people like to blame are down week on week.


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  • #4992
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,688 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    froog wrote: »
    so people are annoyed with lockdowns and NPHET. i can understand that, but I am still not hearing any alternatives. everytime i ask, i am given an answer that basically amounts to lockdowns with some pubs open thrown in occasionally.

    The time has passed for an alternative. We are pissed that ICU capacity was not increased as a priority and contact tracing was left collapse, it's like they didn't expect the inevitable 2nd wave. I'm concerned that NPHET isn't made up of the right individuals, it's chaired by a GP and has one is infectious disease expert on it.


  • #4993
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    Kermit will always be a legend. Spotted the Beast from the East 10 days out, King of Covid. You'll be just an unmemorable collection of 3 letters and 3 words.

    The king is in the building. You all show respect. A living legend of online activity in Ireland.

    In fairness to Kermit, he predicted 8 of the last 2 waves.


  • #4994
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    SPDUB wrote: »
    Seriously , you're claiming you don't know why it's crass ?

    It's insensitive to suggest that he'll be spending Christmas with his family and friends?

    Jesus...So, if I suggest my neighbour is spending Christmas with their family and friends, I'm being insensitive?

    Genuinely, help me out here...How is this crass?


  • #4995
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ongarite wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1328749684823891968

    Take-away pints is a convenient distraction from the reality that we cases in nursing homes, care facilities are now the main driver of cases & deaths.
    The HSE and government have failed to protect these people again.
    Cases among the age groups certain like to blame are down week on week.

    now that is something i can get angry at.

    nursing homes should be locked down tight by now. effectively a bubble type control philosophy where carers live permanently in centres or literally don't meet up with anyone. give them a ball of extra pay for it. serious level of PPE.

    now whether that's NPHETs fault or HSE or HIQA i don't know. but it is unacceptable.


  • #4996
    Fast Twitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    AdamD wrote: »
    In fairness to Kermit, he predicted 8 of the last 2 waves.

    He predicted the second wave 8 times is what you're trying to say.

    He just has it, and he's begrudged. Vast knowledge across a range of fields.


  • #4997
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,117 ✭✭✭prunudo


    ongarite wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1328749684823891968

    Take-away pints is a convenient distraction from the reality that cases in nursing homes, care facilities are now the main driver of cases & deaths.
    The HSE and government have failed to protect these people again.
    Cases among the age groups certain people like to blame are down week on week.

    Maybe if the social media journalists took a 15 second clip from the inside of an under pressure care home or under staffed hospital ward we might get outrage in the correct direction.


  • #4998
    paulie21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,324 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    366 cases 11 deaths per Zara King


  • #4999
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,117 ✭✭✭prunudo


    AdamD wrote: »
    In fairness to Kermit, he predicted 8 of the last 2 waves.

    Fair few beasts from the east predicted every winter too.


  • #5000
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    RIP to those who have dies.

    On the case number, good to see it go down a bit today but obviously day to day variance.


  • #5001
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,222 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Obviously the pubs should never reopen, what if we end up like France and other hyperbolic nonsense.

    What makes you think we are different to France, Austria, United Kingdom, Spain, Germany....?

    You seem to believe we can walk on water.

    Why is it you believe we are doing comparatively well?

    Could it be anything to do with the mitigation measures in place in your considered opinion?


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  • #5002
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,238 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    cases and deaths high
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #5003
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,216 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Wow...Hang on...Let me get this straight...

    Me, saying he'll spend Christmas with his family and friends, is being twisted somehow as some sort of dig at his wife being ill?

    Some of you people are ****ing sick in the head! Reported!

    The poster doth protest too much methinks.


  • #5004
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Wow...Hang on...Let me get this straight...

    Me, saying he'll spend Christmas with his family and friends, is being twisted somehow as some sort of dig at his wife being ill?

    Some of you people are ****ing sick in the head! Reported!

    I thought it was incredibly crass too and thoughtless


  • #5005
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Jesus 11 deaths, RIP


  • #5006
    SPDUB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    MOR316 wrote: »
    . I'm sure Tony Holohan will have a lovely Christmas with his family and friends though

    This is what you actually posted


  • #5007
    Peter Flynt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    Today is the first day Ireland's 14 day average has increased since the day before the move to level 5 on October 22nd - from 414.4 cases per day to 417.5 cases per day (over the past 14 days).

    That's where level 5 will stay at unless further action is taken.


  • #5008
    Fast Twitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I hear it's going to snow tomorrow. My inner voice declared that, therefore it's completely true.

    Bertie if you think it's going to snow tomorrow you're in for disappointment. It's 16c today and temps will drop a little tmrw. You need to listen to the weather forecast more often.

    Kermit analysed the SSW in the troposphere in February 2018 and correctly predicted where the polar vortex split would occur. What do you think of that Bertie? Genius can't be denied by mediocrity.


  • #5009
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    Bertie if you think it's going to snow tomorrow you're in for disappointment. It's 16c today and temps will drop a little tmrw. You need to listen to the weather forecast more often.

    Kermit analysed the SSW in the troposphere in February 2018 and correctly predicted where the polar vortex split would occur. What do you think of that Bertie? Genius can't be denied by mediocrity.

    Sarcasm eludes you grasshopper. "Genius" my left testicle.


  • #5010
    St.Spodo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    Has anyone posted the county breakdown?


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  • #5011
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    froog wrote: »
    now that is something i can get angry at.

    nursing homes should be locked down tight by now. effectively a bubble type control philosophy where carers live permanently in centres or literally don't meet up with anyone. give them a ball of extra pay for it. serious level of PPE.

    now whether that's NPHETs fault or HSE or HIQA i don't know. but it is unacceptable.

    So, in an industry that are already crying out for staff, you want to make them give up any lives they had to live permanently there. I don't give a crap what the wages are, no one is signing up for that


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