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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,816 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    biko wrote: »
    So, revenge.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    biko wrote: »
    If crimes have been committed then regular process will kick in, or should have already kicked in.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Consequences.

    I am sure the Nazi and Soviet communists' had excuses that made sense to them for putting people on lists also. It all sounds like the start of the 'up against the wall' movement that happened under those two evil regimes.

    If someone has done something illegal in government then get the law to pursue them but do not start making lists, I think that would be obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Here's an example for you:

    Someone shitposts in one of the many, many forums you mod. You give them a 24hr ban.

    You let them back in.

    They shit post again.

    You give them a week ban.

    They come back. They Shitpost again and they get a permanent ban.

    They go to the CMods and they say,"Biko has been too hard on me, I deserve to be let back in"

    The CMods go to Biko and they say, "Hey, whats the craic with this lad? Why was he banned"

    You say, "look at his post history, he's been given a load of chances. I'm adding him to the banned list"

    The CMods say," Sure, go ahead. He's only going to do it again anyway".
    Funny analogy, since I do sometimes wonder how biko would react to someone repeatedly posting in the same manner as they do here in the forums they moderate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Trumps policies did nothing to stop the spread of covid. In fact, Trumps policies encouraged the spread of covid. He is directly responsible for his policies and he is directly responsible for the consequences of those policies.

    Accepted. His policies were sh1te.

    But that doesn't change the fact that Trump didn't kill nearly half a million people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    You had time to write a response a few paragraphs long to an article you didn't read, but you didn't have time to read the very short article itself?

    No, Im at work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Accepted. His policies were sh1te.

    But that doesn't change the fact that Trump didn't kill nearly half a million people.

    Not half, only a quarter (so far).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Not half, only a quarter (so far).

    Yes, his policies did little to halt the spread of COVID-19.

    But lets stick to facts. A poster said Trump killed approx 500,000 people. That's not true. COVID-19 killed those people.

    Saying Trump killed them is a lie because he didn't kill them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Yes, his policies did little to halt the spread of COVID-19.

    But lets stick to facts. A poster said Trump killed approx 500,000 people. That's not true. COVID-19 killed those people.

    Saying Trump killed them is a lie because he didn't kill them.

    His attitude to it, certainly helped kill a lot of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Consequences.
    weisses wrote: »
    Do you honestly don't get it .. Our are you deliberately obtuse ?
    It is simply a list of people whose CV you should check in case they forgot to include the fact that they willingly helped the worst American President in 100 years kill a half million* of your fellow citizens.

    Why would anyone but another crook hire any of them?

    (* not a half million yet, but it will be by Jan 21st)
    If a person breaks a law then there is already a system in place.
    I get that you're angry but what you guys are proscribing is simply put revenge.
    Hasn't Biden said it's time for the country to heal? You seem to be doing the opposite.


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  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    No, Im at work.

    Try reading what I said again.

    You have time to write this response at work to an article you haven't read, instead of reading the article itself which would have taken a shorter amount of time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    His attitude to it, certainly helped kill a lot of them.

    If I give you COVID-19, that doesn't mean that I killed you. Same principle with Trump.

    Is the hatred for Trump so strong that people can't see that the statement that Trump killed 500,000 people is not true. Yes, Trump's policies didn't help, I'm acknowledging that fact, but that doesn't make him a mass killer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Here's an example for you:

    Someone shitposts in one of the many, many forums you mod. You give them a 24hr ban.

    You let them back in.

    They shit post again.

    You give them a week ban.

    They come back. They Shitpost again and they get a permanent ban.

    They go to the CMods and they say,"Biko has been too hard on me, I deserve to be let back in"

    The CMods go to Biko and they say, "Hey, whats the craic with this lad? Why was he banned"

    You say, "look at his post history, he's been given a load of chances. I'm adding him to the banned list"

    The CMods say," Sure, go ahead. He's only going to do it again anyway".
    You just described normal modding process for someone trolling.
    There is nothing spiteful or vengeful about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Accepted. His policies were sh1te.

    But that doesn't change the fact that Trump didn't kill nearly half a million people.

    when the consequences of those policies are the deaths of 250,000 people at the last count then he is responsible for those deaths. whether it is 250,000 or 500,000 is splitting hairs. If i said he was responsible for the deaths of 10's of thousands of people would you find that acceptable?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    If I give you COVID-19, that doesn't mean that I killed you. Same principle with Trump.

    Is the hatred for Trump so strong that people can't see that the statement that Trump killed 500,000 people is not true. Yes, Trump's policies didn't help, I'm acknowledging that fact, but that doesn't make him a mass killer.

    It does make him negligent as he failed to do things which could have prevented that number of deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Try reading what I said again.

    You have time to write this response to work to an article you haven't read, instead of reading the article itself which would have taken a shorter amount of time?

    I read it again, my answer is the same, I didn't write my response this in one go, I dipped in and out to do it. The same as this one in case you ask me to read what you said again. So instead of trying to be snotty why not just tell me what I said is wrong and why its wrong or move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    biko wrote: »
    I get that you're angry but what you guys are proscribing is simply put revenge.
    Hasn't Biden said it's time for the country to heal? You seem to be doing the opposite.

    Healing doesn't mean people aren't held accountable for their crimes. Not surprised you want Trump and his fellow criminals and grifters to get off scott free. Seems the "lock her up" line only applies if you're a Democrat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,029 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    biko wrote: »
    If a person breaks a law then there is already a system in place.
    I get that you're angry but what you guys are proscribing is simply put revenge.
    Hasn't Biden said it's time for the country to heal? You seem to be doing the opposite.

    Part of the healing process would be for those who committed crimes but escaped indictment under the banner of the administration, be held to account. No one is above the law


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Part of the healing process would be for those who committed crimes but escaped indictment under the banner of the administration, be held to account. No one is above the law

    The GOP and their supporters are only concerned about law and order when that law and order doesn't apply to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    biko wrote: »
    You just described normal modding process for someone trolling.
    There is nothing spiteful or vengeful about it.

    Vengeance:

    "punishment inflicted or retribution exacted for an injury or wrong"

    Mod process is in line with the above, no?

    Creating a list of people like say for instance: Roger Stone, Michael Flynn etc in line with the post you were responding to, is the same thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,974 ✭✭✭Panrich


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    If I give you COVID-19, that doesn't mean that I killed you. Same principle with Trump.

    Is the hatred for Trump so strong that people can't see that the statement that Trump killed 500,000 people is not true. Yes, Trump's policies didn't help, I'm acknowledging that fact, but that doesn't make him a mass killer.

    He was certainly responsible for a percentage of those deaths with his refusal to advocate mask wearing and his demands that states open up for business so that his election chances were improved.

    Now he is even more responsible as he has admitted via his COS that the administration has given up trying to contain the pandemic. I see that we are at record numbers of new cases and hospitisations and he still won't cooperate with Biden to address the problem or even get out of the way.

    He will be judged very harshly for his selfishness and management of this pandemic.


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    I read it again, my answer is the same, I didn't write my response this in one go, I dipped in and out to do it. The same as this one in case you ask me to read what you said again. So instead of trying to be snotty why not just tell me what I said is wrong and why its wrong or move on.

    So instead of dipping in and out reading the article, you instead decided to respond to the article first before reading it? Do you really not see the problem with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    when the consequences of those policies are the deaths of 250,000 people at the last count then he is responsible for those deaths. whether it is 250,000 or 500,000 is splitting hairs. If i said he was responsible for the deaths of 10's of thousands of people would you find that acceptable?

    I'm saying he killed absolutely nobody. Not even one person. His policies did very little to prevent their deaths, that's true. But he didn't kill anybody. That's actually a fact. COVID-19 (if you believe the numbers) killed those people, not Trump.
    robinph wrote: »
    It does make him negligent as he failed to do things which could have prevented that number of deaths.

    Yes, he is probably negligent but again, that doesn't mean that he killed them.

    Anyway, I'm not going to keep repeating myself so I'm going to drop out after this last comment.

    Yes, Trump is an ar5ewipe and his policies did very little to stop the spread of COVID-19 and so far almost 500k people have died but that doesn't mean that he killed almost 500k people. He didn't kill them. COVID-19 killed them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    So instead of dipping in and out reading the article, you instead decided to respond to the article first before reading it? Do you really not see the problem with that?

    Thanks for your time. Moving on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'm saying he killed absolutely nobody. Not even one person. His policies did very little to prevent their deaths, that's true. But he didn't kill anybody. That's actually a fact. COVID-19 (if you believe the numbers) killed those people, not Trump.



    Yes, he is probably negligent but again, that doesn't mean that he killed them.

    The post of mine did not say killed, it said responsible for. not the same thing. Somehow you decided to respond to something I didnt say which comes across as disingenuous at best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'm saying he killed absolutely nobody. Not even one person. His policies did very little to prevent their deaths, that's true. But he didn't kill anybody. That's actually a fact. COVID-19 (if you believe the numbers) killed those people, not Trump.



    Yes, he is probably negligent but again, that doesn't mean that he killed them.

    Anyway, I'm not going to keep repeating myself so I'm going to drop out after this last comment.

    Yes, Trump is an ar5ewipe and his policies did very little to stop the spread of COVID-19 and so far almost 500k people have died but that doesn't mean that he killed almost 500k people. He didn't kill them. COVID-19 killed them.

    I mean, I don't want to Godwin the thread, but its like saying Hitler didn't kill any Jews because he didn't personally turn on the Gas chambers.

    Trump has provided the environment for this to fester and has done nothing to to stop it. The buck stops at his desk no matter how much he loves to shirk any responsibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'm saying he killed absolutely nobody. Not even one person. His policies did very little to prevent their deaths, that's true. But he didn't kill anybody. That's actually a fact. COVID-19 (if you believe the numbers) killed those people, not Trump.



    Yes, he is probably negligent but again, that doesn't mean that he killed them.

    Anyway, I'm not going to keep repeating myself so I'm going to drop out after this last comment.

    Yes, Trump is an ar5ewipe and his policies did very little to stop the spread of COVID-19 and so far almost 500k people have died but that doesn't mean that he killed almost 500k people. He didn't kill them. COVID-19 killed them.

    Sorry to Godwin the thread but the bolded part also describes a wee chap named Adolf Hitler.

    Edit: DS came to the same point above.


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Thanks for your time. Moving on.

    Typical Trumpist response. You can see the problem with your logic but don't want to admit to it.


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'm saying he killed absolutely nobody. Not even one person. His policies did very little to prevent their deaths, that's true. But he didn't kill anybody. That's actually a fact. COVID-19 (if you believe the numbers) killed those people, not Trump.

    So no one should be blamed for any form of biological warfare?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    The post of mine did not say killed, it said responsible for. not the same thing. Somehow you decided to respond to something I didnt say which comes across as disingenuous at best.

    I was responding to another poster who said Trump killed 500,000 of his fellow citizens and then you replied to my post. You said Trump was directly responsible for the consequences of his policies and I mistakenly thought you were implying that Trump killed 500,000 people. I apologise for that mistake, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth.


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