Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Grab All Association · 17-11-2020 12:58AM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

If it was socialism they would be on mules travelling along a dirt road

Cheaper to own and run a mule than a 6.0 V8. most of those vehicles are on finance and they have no choice but to make payments on instead of purchasing food.

feargale · 17-11-2020 01:06AM

Are there still people here who believe the election was stolen from Trump? Or have they all ridden into the sunset?
Read this:

"Save America, however, gets an early cut of the funds raised. The fine print shows that 60% of the funds go first to Save America -- up to the $5,000 legal donation limit -- and then to the Trump campaign's recount account. Forty percent will go to the Republican National Committee's operating account.

Campaign finance experts say Trump is engaging in a bait-and-switch tactic with his supporters.

"He's saying that he needs donors' money for election-challenge litigation, but he's putting the money into an account to be used for his political future," said Paul Ryan, the vice president for policy and litigation at Common Cause.

Fundraising limits are higher for leadership PACs than candidate committees. A donor could only contribute a maximum of $2,800 at this point for a 2024 presidential campaign but can contribute $20,000 to a leadership PAC in four, annual installments by that date, Ryan notes.

The rules on spending by leadership PACs also are far more relaxed than those for campaign committees and do not restrict politicians from using donors' funds for personal expenses -- a use forbidden in a presidential campaign account.

"Leadership PACs are notoriously abused by politicians as slush funds without violating any laws," Ryan said.

The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

Will you be contributing to this fund to defray The Incredible Sulk's litigation expenses?

Chris_Heilong · 17-11-2020 01:48AM

everlast75 wrote: »

"Republicans just want a fair election"

Also Republicans

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1328467775644381184?s=19

False.
Trump will do everything within the law to disqualify any and all "non-legal ballots", There is no way to disqualify legal ballots, That is BS. What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities, Ballots that were missing important information like date, signature and so on that would normally disqualify them but it seems that they might have been counted. There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden. Not all the states have finished counting and there are a few that are recounting ballots so it is not over until the next president has been officially decided inn December.

feargale · 17-11-2020 01:52AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

False.
Trump will do everything within the law to disqualify any and all "non-legal ballots", There is no way to disqualify legal ballots, That is BS. What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities, Ballots that were missing important information like date, signature and so on that would normally disqualify them but it seems that they might have been counted. There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden. Not all the states have finished counting and there are a few that are recounting ballots so it is not over until the next president has been officially decided inn December.

So you believe the election was stolen?

Tell me how · 17-11-2020 01:52AM

But he's a peace loving President they say.

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1328494659371474950

Buford T Justice · 17-11-2020 01:53AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

False.
Trump will do everything within the law to disqualify any and all "non-legal ballots", There is no way to disqualify legal ballots, That is BS. What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities, Ballots that were missing important information like date, signature and so on that would normally disqualify them but it seems that they might have been counted. There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden. Not all the states have finished counting and there are a few that are recounting ballots so it is not over until the next president has been officially decided inn December.

Right, but these claims have all but been thrown out on many occasions as has been documented in this thread previously. Problems with voting machines have also been discounted.

Just because trump kicks and screams and says it's so doesn't mean it is.

Loafing Oaf · 17-11-2020 01:57AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden.

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extra gravy · 17-11-2020 02:00AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities,.

Oh really and how's that going for them? 23 cases laughed out of court and counting, isn't it?

wes · 17-11-2020 02:02AM

humberklog wrote: »

I think the Republicans attack AOC in order to keep her in the news thinking that the US hasn't the appetite for her brand of politics.

I don't think they fear her, quite the opposite- she's useful to them to attempt to tarnish Dems as socialist firebrands.

I can see this back firing for them long term.

extra gravy · 17-11-2020 02:03AM

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1328503369296580608?s=19

At least one Republican is willing to stand up for the truth.

Carfacemandog · 17-11-2020 02:20AM

Ohio's Governor and Romney also came out to congratulate Biden, if I recall. Not everyone is willing to throw their careers in the toilet for White House Karen.

https://twitter.com/PauleyTeeks/status/1328453123711528960

jill_valentine · 17-11-2020 02:58AM

What in the HELL have they got over Lindsay Graham?!??!

Carfacemandog · 17-11-2020 03:08AM

Here's something for Trump supporters to not give a **** about while pretending they are about election integrity - Georgia's Republican Secretary of State is saying that fellow republican a are asking him to wipe fully legal and valid votes off the register.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brad-raffensperger-georgia-vote/2020/11/16/6b6cb2f4-283e-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

I would be very interested to see what role their Governor (Kemp) has in this, given Georgias recent history of magically disappearing ballots in congressional and gubernatorial elections.

Chris_Heilong · 17-11-2020 03:38AM

Buford T Justice wrote: »

Right, but these claims have all but been thrown out on many occasions as has been documented in this thread previously. Problems with voting machines have also been discounted.

Just because trump kicks and screams and says it's so doesn't mean it is.

Then you have nothing to worry about, there is plenty of evidence that all is not well, 2,600 uncounted Trump ballots have just been discovered in Georgia. mmm strange that, in the "most secure election in history". Yeah right.

Look, Trump more than likely wont win but I want to see more problems with the election be shown and rectified.

Chris_Heilong · 17-11-2020 03:40AM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Here's something for Trump supporters to not give a **** about while pretending they are about election integrity - Georgia's Republican Secretary of State is saying that fellow republican a are asking him to wipe fully legal and valid votes off the register.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brad-raffensperger-georgia-vote/2020/11/16/6b6cb2f4-283e-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

I would be very interested to see what role their Governor (Kemp) has in this, given Georgias recent history of magically disappearing ballots in congressional and gubernatorial elections.

As I said, nobody is asking this. It is an impossibility if they were fully legal and valid votes.

nolivesmatter · 17-11-2020 04:24AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Then you have nothing to worry about, there is plenty of evidence that all is not well, 2,600 uncounted Trump ballots have just been discovered in Georgia. mmm strange that, in the "most secure election in history". Yeah right.

Look, Trump more than likely wont win but I want to see more problems with the election be shown and rectified.

Yep. These kind of things won't change the outcome but they highlight the need to have the votes and the counting processes reviewed.

Tell me how · 17-11-2020 04:39AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Then you have nothing to worry about, there is plenty of evidence that all is not well, 2,600 uncounted Trump ballots have just been discovered in Georgia. mmm strange that, in the "most secure election in history". Yeah right.

Look, Trump more than likely wont win but I want to see more problems with the election be shown and rectified.

nolivesmatter wrote: »

Yep. These kind of things won't change the outcome but they highlight the need to have the votes and the counting processes reviewed.

Looking forward to you guys supporting voting practices being reviewed nationwide. Something Republicans, unsurprisingly, have largely been resistant to up until the current situation where their guy lost and didn't have a brother in a key state to help him out.

Access to voting in Georgia

The clogged polling locations in metro Atlanta reflect an underlying pattern: the number of places to vote has shrunk statewide, with little recourse. Although the reduction in polling places has taken place across racial lines, it has primarily caused long lines in nonwhite neighborhoods where voter registration has surged and more residents cast ballots in person on Election Day. The pruning of polling places started long before the pandemic, which has discouraged people from voting in person.

Limited Ballot Boxes in Texas

Directives from Ohio secretary of state, Frank LaRose, and Texas governor, Greg Abbott – both Republicans – limit drop boxes to one per county. In Harris county, Texas, home to Houston, that’s one box for 4.7 million people. For the 228,000 residents in more sparse Mahoning county, a single drop box could result in a lengthy trip to the board of elections. In stark contrast, for the 2.3 million residents of King county in greater Seattle, there are 73 24-hour drop boxes within easy reach of voters.

Voting issues in North Carolina

North Carolina -- where early in-person voting began Thursday, with long lines around the state -- has been at the center of partisan fights over voting in recent years. A law requiring voters bring government-issued ID to the polls is tied up in court. For the past few years, racial gerrymandering was in the national spotlight when the congressional maps drawn by the Republican-led legislature were in question. Those maps were thrown out after a state court ruling in 2019.

nolivesmatter · 17-11-2020 04:47AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Looking forward to you guys supporting voting practices being reviewed nationwide. Something Republicans, unsurprisingly, have largely been resistant to up until the current situation where their guy lost and didn't have a brother in a key state to help him out.

I have a non-partisan perspective on this. I would assume you do as well.
Review them all if needed and let the chips fall where they may.

Zak Flaps · 17-11-2020 05:07AM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328341927641681922?s=20

I don't know how any Trump fan could defend a tweet as embarrassing as this.
He really is a degenerate.

Tell me how · 17-11-2020 05:09AM

Zak Flaps wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328341927641681922?s=20

I don't know how any Trump fan could defend a tweet as embarrassing as this.
He really is a degenerate.

It's another admission that he has lost the election.
Wouldn't be so desperate for acknowledgement if he thought he was going to be staying on.

km991148 · 17-11-2020 07:23AM

Tell me how wrote: »

It's another admission that he has lost the election.
Wouldn't be so desperate for acknowledgement if he thought he was going to be staying on.

It's an acceptance that he is going to have to leave the Whitehouse. I'm his mind, it's not an acceptance he lost the election. It will never be accepted.

uncleoswald · 17-11-2020 07:54AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Then you have nothing to worry about, there is plenty of evidence that all is not well, 2,600 uncounted Trump ballots have just been discovered in Georgia. mmm strange that, in the "most secure election in history". Yeah right.

Look, Trump more than likely wont win but I want to see more problems with the election be shown and rectified.

Why do you call them "Trump ballots", as if someone had nefariously hidden ballots that had Trump marked on them?

Not all 2,600 were for Trump but they were ballots in a county with a Trump lean so they skewed towards Trump, by about 800. The way you phrase it suggest you either heard about it on MAGA Twitter or want to make it sound more nefarious yourself.

All very mundane human error and the system seems robust enough to cope with it:

https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1328466905250869249

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

False.
Trump will do everything within the law to disqualify any and all "non-legal ballots", There is no way to disqualify legal ballots, That is BS. What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities, Ballots that were missing important information like date, signature and so on that would normally disqualify them but it seems that they might have been counted. There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden. Not all the states have finished counting and there are a few that are recounting ballots so it is not over until the next president has been officially decided inn December.

Not according to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a fellow Republican: "Graham also asked whether Raffensperger had the power to toss all mail ballots in counties found to have higher rates of nonmatching signatures, Raffensperger said." https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/lindsey-graham-pressured-georgia-to-toss-legal-ballots.html

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1328529326212608001

I've also heard his legal team argue that if there isn't 100% guaranteed of security on voting machines than all votes should be nulled. They are always trying to disenfranchise large portions of the US population, you know which ones, by making it harder for them to vote. Now they are actually trying to destroy their vote.

Flippyfloppy · 17-11-2020 08:08AM

km991148 wrote: »

It's an acceptance that he is going to have to leave the Whitehouse. I'm his mind, it's not an acceptance he lost the election. It will never be accepted.

Er.....great to hear it straight from Trumps mind

metaoblivia · 17-11-2020 08:47AM

I know it doesn't matter in the scheme of things, but I'm enjoying watching the popular vote margin between Biden and Trump grow larger. New York state is still only at 84% counted with the NYC area at around 60-75% counted, with several of them currently going for Biden in the 80% range. New Jersey's NYC suburbs also have a fair amount of votes left to count. Biden's going to hit 80 million votes and win the popular vote at close to 52%, with an eventual 7-8 million spread between them.

Wanderer78 · 17-11-2020 08:50AM

metaoblivia wrote:

I know it doesn't matter in the scheme of things, but I'm enjoying watching the popular vote margin between Biden and Trump grow larger. New York state is still only at 84% counted with the NYC area at around 60-75% counted, with several of them currently going for Biden in the 80% range. New Jersey's NYC suburbs also have a fair amount of votes left to count. Biden's going to hit 80 million votes and win the popular vote at close to 52%, with an eventual 7-8 million spread between them.

He ll never concede, narcissists rarely do, He should just be ignored now, and let people move on

sdanseo · 17-11-2020 09:02AM

Zak Flaps wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328341927641681922?s=20

I don't know how any Trump fan could defend a tweet as embarrassing as this.
He really is a degenerate.

The joke's on him - all his tweets are archived forever by the US Government, hell, they'll even build him a library to store all his false quotes in.

People will still be laughing at him centuries from now.

Carfacemandog · 17-11-2020 09:03AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

As I said, nobody is asking this. It is an impossibility if they were fully legal and valid votes.

So the secretary of state for Georgia (a Republican) didn't say what I just linked to him saying? It's right there in the link you quoted, with names named by him.

17-11-2020 09:03AM

"Hate Crimes Under Trump Surged Nearly 20 Percent."

Hate crimes have surged nearly 20 percent during the administration of President Donald Trump, according to a new FBI report on hate crime statistics. The report also shows that hate-motivated murders, largely committed by white supremacists, spiked to their highest number in 28 years

https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

km991148 · 17-11-2020 09:07AM

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

Er.....great to hear it straight from Trumps mind

Lol, but this is how narcissistic types do actually think.. he might accept leaving the WH is necessary, but everyone else will be blamed. I'm sure he actually believes there is a fraud and even it cannot be proven, the judiciary will also be fraudulent etc.

metaoblivia · 17-11-2020 09:09AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

He ll never concede, narcissists rarely do, He should just be ignored now, and let people move on

Oh I know. I just like it that every day he's losing court battles and losing ground in the popular vote. I'm an American and I'm petty.

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