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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭BQQ


    Nobotty wrote: »
    How come out of a population of 328 million 150 million plus voted
    50% of the population under 18?
    But it also means there's only 1 under 18 left for every one that voted allowing for 20% over 18 that didn't vote

    Is that not very fishy?

    50% of the population under 18 is very fishy indeed
    Where did you get that from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,034 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Nobotty wrote: »
    How come out of a population of 328 million 150 million plus voted
    50% of the population under 18?
    But it also means there's only 1 under 18 left for every one that voted allowing for 20% over 18 that didn't vote

    Is that not very fishy?

    Voter turnout this year was the highest in 120 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Nobotty wrote: »
    How come out of a population of 328 million 150 million plus voted
    50% of the population under 18?
    But it also means there's only 1 under 18 left for every one that voted allowing for 20% over 18 that didn't vote

    Is that not very fishy?

    try again

    US_population_pyramid_%282020%29.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    Which witnesses?

    Bold emphasis mine.

    So which time was correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,034 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    normakelle wrote: »
    So which time was correct.

    I'm gonna go with the first one. What do you think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Trumps votes this time garnered him 47.3% of the vote. In 2016 he got 46.1%

    In 2008, Obama got 52.9% of the vote, in 2012, he got 51.1% of the vote. Let's stop trying to imply that Trump is more popular than Obama or take some time to understand percentages.

    In fact, Hillary got 48.2% of the vote in 2016 meaning she was more popular than Trump than and now.

    You're misunderstanding my point. I know well how to work out a percentage; the fact is 4 million more people got off their arses for Trump than they did for Obama. And that was marked as a turning point in US politics.

    Of course, thankfully another 5 million or so again got off their hinds for Biden despite him being so medicore. But ignore Trump's base at your peril, the divide can't be fixed by simply chucking them aside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    No. You stated that "ye are all crazy calling Trump supporters racist" which I have demonstrated is incorrect. You might want to take your own "the same way a lot of people read headlines without reading the facts" advice.

    Why would racism even be discussed? unless some posters said they were. What was the conclusion on Joe Biden's racism.


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    normakelle wrote: »
    Why would racism even be discussed? unless some posters said they were. What was the conclusion on Joe Biden's racism.

    You want me to teach you how to use the search function is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Nothing wrong with that, only problem was it was mail in voting v voting in person. It was 85% 15% in favour of Democrats .

    But you made the point....


    .''What's the problem with more people participating in the election?''


    Only problem is it was only the one side that had the easier participation, while other side were told not to use it. Bad strategy and led to Biden winning.

    If .

    I'd love to see the numbers on votes cast per household tbh.

    I'm interested in this theory, but at the moment it is just an untested theory (that mail in votes made it easy).

    The passion that the Trump fans show.. I'm not sure it would have made such a difference as lots came out to vote anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    sdanseo wrote: »
    You're misunderstanding my point. I know well how to work out a percentage; the fact is 4 million more people got off their arses for Trump than they did for Obama. And that was marked as a turning point in US politics.

    Of course, thankfully another 5 million or so again got off their hinds for Biden despite him being so medicore. But ignore Trump's base at your peril, the divide can't be fixed by simply chucking them aside.

    If biden has more votes but is mediocre, then it stands that either trump is less than mediocre or that popular vote is not an indicator of competence.

    So which one is it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Nobotty wrote: »
    How come out of a population of 328 million 150 million plus voted
    50% of the population under 18?
    But it also means there's only 1 under 18 left for every one that voted allowing for 20% over 18 that didn't vote

    Is that not very fishy?

    I'm not sure what's supposed to be fishy??

    150 is a very high turnout, is that what you mean? A lot of people wanted rid of Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    km991148 wrote: »
    I'm not sure what's supposed to be fishy??

    150 is a very high turnout, is that what you mean? A lot of people wanted rid of Trump.

    stop, 50% of the population is not under 18, stop reading there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Nobotty


    try again

    US_population_pyramid_%282020%29.jpg

    Eligible voters are over 18
    If that's half the population or more it only leaves 1 under 18 left per person over 18
    That seems fishy to me unless there's some othe explanation
    How can 50% + of the population be of voting age is what I'm asking
    It seems worse in Ireland
    3.5 million electorate out of 5 million
    The number of adults with children under 18 must be relatively small
    You'd imagine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Nobotty wrote: »
    Eligible voters are over 18
    If that's half the population or more it only leaves 1 under 18 left per person over 18
    That seems fishy to me unless there's some othe explanation
    How can 50% + of the population be of voting age is what I'm asking
    It seems worse in Ireland
    3.5 million electorate out of 5 million
    The number of adults with children under 18 must be relatively small
    You'd imagine

    You’re asking how can more than half a population be over 18?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    If biden has more votes but is mediocre, then it stands that either trump is less than mediocre or that popular vote is not an indicator of competence.

    So which one is it?

    The election wasn't about either individual's competence. It was about left v right.

    I have a few American friends, and not all voted for Biden. Almost without exception though, they voted for the side, not their candidate. One from the rural Midwest, as red as it gets, who voted for Trump actually told me he felt he was stuck with Trump, but could never vote for Biden.

    All I'm saying is it won't be solved by either side simply declaring itself the winner.


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    Nobotty wrote: »
    Eligible voters are over 18
    If that's half the population or more it only leaves 1 under 18 left per person over 18
    That seems fishy to me unless there's some othe explanation
    How can 50% + of the population be of voting age is what I'm asking
    It seems worse in Ireland
    3.5 million electorate out of 5 million
    The number of adults with children under 18 must be relatively small
    You'd imagine

    What?! Why is that weird to you? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Nobotty wrote: »
    Eligible voters are over 18
    If that's half the population or more it only leaves 1 under 18 left per person over 18
    That seems fishy to me unless there's some othe explanation
    How can 50% + of the population be of voting age is what I'm asking
    It seems worse in Ireland
    3.5 million electorate out of 5 million
    The number of adults with children under 18 must be relatively small
    You'd imagine

    I am confused by this, 73.3% of american's are over 18. All demographic trends in developed nations are trending toward an older population, in fact it is a measure of development.

    So what are you saying? You are surprised that that the population is not younger?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    sdanseo wrote: »
    The election wasn't about either individual's competence. It was about left v right.

    I have a few American friends, and not all voted for Biden. Almost without exception though, they voted for the side, not their candidate. One from the rural Midwest, as red as it gets, who voted for Trump actually told me he felt he was stuck with Trump, but could never vote for Biden.

    All I'm saying is it won't be solved by either side simply declaring itself the winner.

    The political division wont be solved, I agree but the presidency will obviously.
    That is all that happened.

    There has been political divide since the civil war, actually probably since colonialism. We just have a platform now for every tom dick and harry to venture their ill conceived, evidence-free conjecture that conveniently ties into their preferred narrative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    I'm gonna go with the first one. What do you think?

    of course you do suits your narrative.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    millions of ballots were blank, other that voting for president.

    People are lazy and maybe they didn't care about the voting who their bin man should be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Boggles wrote: »
    TBF, Giggs has his own problems at the minute.

    I seen one description of the Proud Boys as the Q Cuck Klan which seemed appropriate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    normakelle wrote: »
    You can have an abortion nearly up to full term. Surely you should have decided whether you wanted a child before then. I am of the belief you should have the choice to have an abortion but there has to be a cut off point. .

    You will of course have stats to show how many people are just deciding late in their preganancies to have abortions..................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    sabat wrote: »
    More Americans voted for Trump than Obama. That's a fact.

    More americans voted for Biden than trump. that's a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Mail in voting is an advantage, one can do it in the comfort of their own home without waiting for hours in the wind and rain. Plus instead of one person going to vote in person on behalf of a house, everyone in house will now vote as it's easy, and then one person can still go drop off the ballot, while rest have their slippers on and are watching tv.
    .

    Sounds like a good democracy to me. Encouraging as many people to participate as possible.

    Forcing people to stand in ****ty weather (in a lot of states) in November for hours in the hope they either wont bother to go or give up when theyre there as a method of voter suppression is very far from democratic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito



    If mail in voting is so great why is it not used here fully, and in UK. Do away with voting in person? Won't happen, and we all know why, it's not safe, yet everyone is applauding it for the USA to use, as it achieved the goal of getting rid of Trump.

    Ive never been asked for ID when voting here. Anyone could have walked up with my polling card and voted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    normakelle wrote: »
    They did announce themselves according to witnesses. As a law abiding citizen if I heard gunfire in my apartment I wouldn't get out of bed, I would cower under the covers and call the cops. If you lie down with dogs you get fleas.

    Weird how so many conservatives in America are like "if anyone I dont know so much as steps foot across the line of my property I will light them up, no questions asked and its my god given right", then turn right around and go " that guy had no right firing on those people that appeared in his home"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Trumps legal team don't seem to be trying to very hard or maybe they are just not that competent. Either way judges are getting tired of them. The judge in this case basically said that one of trumps witnesses is just making stuff up.

    https://twitter.com/ASFleischman/status/1327318533328482304


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    What are the latest figures on covid?

    Meanwhile...

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328055196904251397?s=19

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    everlast75 wrote: »
    What are the latest figures on covid?

    Meanwhile...

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328055196904251397?s=19

    He should be packing his bags.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭briany


    He should be packing his bags.

    tenor.gif

    Pack your bags, Donny. You're invited to an all-expenses-paid vacation on Rikers island.


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