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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #3632
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Agreed, it lines up perfectly with expected exponential growth

    Does that article say that 14% of infections were found in September?


  • #3633
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    It isn’t breaking news either that you love bad news!!

    Just a realist :cool:


  • #3634
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    New study has found antibodies in people in Italy from September 2019.


    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0300891620974755

    That's interesting. Article is behind a paywall. Would be interesting to read.


  • #3635
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Leilani Proud Hockey wrote: »
    Why are NPHET not advising people on this kind of stuff? Government/NPHET needs to step up and implement guidance on ventilation and humidifiers. Give grants to businesses to buy and install these etc . People wont open windows if they'll freeze the bollocks off themselves.

    That's a good point. Frustrating how slow NPHET are to act on every sort of mitigation strategy possible. Masks, Vitamin D been rolled out in a few countries. No mention of it here. I remember Holohan was asked about Vitamin D and downplayed its role. Almost insulted something so simple could help. No mention of diet and the role obesity seems to play. Should probably control what we can. If their was an add on TV highlighting Vitamin D, Obesity and Ventilation. It would probably lower the R rate somewhat


  • #3636
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Thierry12 wrote: »
    Does that article say that 14% of infections were found in September?

    14% of detections i believe yes


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  • #3637
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Because I don't believe the government has being saying that and I'm calling you out to provide proof to that statement.

    But I didn't say they are saying it "every day". Why do you want proof of that? Unless you've been under a rock, you simply cannot deny that the message we've been given time and time again is "schools are safe" when in fact that is an unsubstantiated blanket statement.


  • #3638
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Thierry12 wrote: »
    Does that article say that 14% of infections were found in September?

    Found some info in supplementary material which has more detail. I don't know enough about it. Is the antibody test specific enough i.e do other coronavirus' cause same antibody? From what I've read it looks fairly specific but who knows. One to watch definitely.


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  • #3639
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Eod100 wrote: »
    The idea of takeaway pints is a bit of a joke tbh. Should just be delivery only and have to be delivered to a home. Otherwise it just turns into people drinking outside like this https://twitter.com/tarafayevents/status/1327743102468165632?s=19

    Fantastic to see all those young people defying restrictions and enjoying themselves. My only concern would be the litter. If the bins are full please bring it home.


  • #3640
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    New study has found antibodies in people in Italy from September 2019.


    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0300891620974755

    So the cold I had with a horrible cough this time last year could have been covid? Took about 3 weeks to shake off, alot longer than a cold.


  • #3641
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    wadacrack wrote: »
    That's a good point. Frustrating how slow NPHET are to act on every sort of mitigation strategy possible. Masks, Vitamin D been rolled out in a few countries. No mention of it here. I remember Holohan was asked about Vitamin D and downplayed its role. Almost insulted something so simple could help. No mention of diet and the role obesity seems to play. Should probably control what we can. If their was an add on TV highlighting Vitamin D, Obesity and Ventilation. It would probably lower the R rate somewhat

    Horrible how slow they are. Masks were one issue at the beginning. But vitamin D and opening windows is something we can all do. Only recently they figured out how useless visors are and we're 8 months into the pandemic.


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  • #3642
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    polesheep wrote: »
    Fantastic to see all those young people defying restrictions and enjoying themselves. My only concern would be the litter. If the bins are full please bring it home.

    I'll bite, why do you see it as a positive thing?


  • #3643
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    polesheep wrote: »
    Fantastic to see all those young people defying restrictions and enjoying themselves. My only concern would be the litter. If the bins are full please bring it home.

    And the fact that there are no toilet facilities...


  • #3644
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I'll bite, why do you see it as a positive thing?


    Don't feed.


  • #3645
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    zerosugarbuzz wrote: »
    And the fact that there are no toilet facilities...

    I'm still waiting...

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058119735&page=534


  • #3646
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eod100 wrote: »
    The idea of takeaway pints is a bit of a joke tbh. Should just be delivery only and have to be delivered to a home. Otherwise it just turns into people drinking outside like this https://twitter.com/tarafayevents/status/1327743102468165632?s=19

    This idea that its better to push people indoors is hilarious. People are going to socialise, its pretty clear the government can't stop that. So continuing to ban things like takeaway pints would merely push the socialising indoors and cause more issues. Head in the sand stuff.


    I've been saying this since the beginning, they have to encourage outdoor activities, because people are socialising and will continue to do so.


  • #3647
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭MOR316


    AdamD wrote: »
    This idea that its better to push people indoors is hilarious. People are going to socialise, its pretty clear the government can't stop that. So continuing to ban things like takeaway pints would merely push the socialising indoors and cause more issues. Head in the sand stuff.


    I've been saying this since the beginning, they have to encourage outdoor activities, because people are socialising and will continue to do so.


    Great if it was summer and it was great in the summer...

    On a day like today however...


  • #3648
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    I suppose it was inevitable.


    RTE today: "Claire Byrne says she still suffers Covid-19 after-effects."


  • #3649
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Thierry12 wrote: »
    Not surprising

    Its had to have been around since Sept/Oct to have those scenes in Wuhan in Dec/Jan

    We know Covid is slow as **** to ramp up to cause excess deaths

    To get those deaths we saw in Wuhan/Lombardy you need to be a sleep at the wheel for a very long time

    Yet deaths in nursing homes happened in February, March at a high rate within a short time period.


  • #3650
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭MOR316


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    I suppose it was inevitable.


    RTE today: "Claire Byrne says she still suffers Covid-19 after-effects."

    I reckon being a mammy to a few kids, approaching middle age and juggling three jobs for her employer might explain the tiredness part


  • #3651
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I'll bite, why do you see it as a positive thing?

    Well, if they weren't doing this they'd most likely be at house parties which are much more dangerous.
    To be honest i see it as them following the regulations as best as possible.
    Curtain twitchers and twitter outrage artists have go to realise that by getting this stopped they'll be driving them all indoors where it will spread a hell of a lot more. It's not fair to tell young people that they can't have any fun for 9 months.


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  • #3652
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Just looking at reports there, was trying to find out if the rapper Jeremih had underlying conditions, I can't find any report specific to that, but it makes you think how inexplicable this virus is. This guy is only 33 years old and he is struggling on a ventilator, he wouldn't be my type of hip hop music now, but he looks really young to land himself into that condition. Clip from 2016 Pitchfork festival.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #3653
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭MOR316


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Well, if they weren't doing this they'd most likely be at house parties which are much more dangerous.
    To be honest i see it as them following the regulations as best as possible.
    Curtain twitchers and twitter outrage artists have go to realise that by getting this stopped they'll be driving them all indoors where it will spread a hell of a lot more. It's not fair to tell young people that they can't have any fun for 9 months.

    The cult of Teflon Holohan will dismember you for this


  • #3654
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    I suppose it was inevitable.


    RTE today: "Claire Byrne says she still suffers Covid-19 after-effects."

    Yea it has to be milked for all it’s worth. Surely a book is in the offing from her ordeal?


  • #3655
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Just looking at reports there, was trying to find out if the rapper Jeremih had underlying conditions, I can't find any report specific to that, but it makes you think how inexplicable this virus is. This guy is only 33 years old and he is struggling on a ventilator, he wouldn't be my type of hip hop music now, but he looks really young to land himself into that condition. Clip from 2016 Pitchfork festival.


    Higher mortality level among BAME all round, so I presume more likely someone young and previously healthy would get a severe dose...


  • #3656
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Eod100 wrote: »
    The idea of takeaway pints is a bit of a joke tbh. Should just be delivery only and have to be delivered to a home. Otherwise it just turns into people drinking outside like this https://twitter.com/tarafayevents/status/1327743102468165632?s=19

    I think the government are subtly pushing some level of herd immunity. On one hand they imply that we're in a level 5 lockdown but anyone who is allowed work will know its pretty much life as normal. Some people will jump up and down slamming this behaviour but the fact is we're not all in this together and its the people who hang on the governments every word and are fearing for the covid monster that are most appalled by people getting on with their lives within the guidelines.
    It appears that household spread causes a lot of the issues but in order in stop socail gatherings its an easier sell if they close large sections of business. I do wonder if closing retail and hairdressing is wise giving the procedures they had adopted to control the spread.


  • #3657
    Car99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭Car99


    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54949799 I hope he is correct.


  • #3658
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    road_high wrote: »
    Yea it has to be milked for all it’s worth. Surely a book is in the offing from her ordeal?

    That's a bit unfair tbh. She is probably just being honest about her own experience. Women are far more likely to suffer from Long Covid


  • #3659
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Well, if they weren't doing this they'd most likely be at house parties which are much more dangerous.
    To be honest i see it as them following the regulations as best as possible.
    Curtain twitchers and twitter outrage artists have go to realise that by getting this stopped they'll be driving them all indoors where it will spread a hell of a lot more. It's not fair to tell young people that they can't have any fun for 9 months.

    Possibly but seems nearby pubs not happy either so don't think it can be framed as that cliched term ''curtain twitchers'' tbh. https://twitter.com/GrogansPub/status/1327906286944612352

    It's been very tough for everyone especially young people but reality is life in general and a global pandemic isn't fair. A lot of people have had to make huge sacrifices all along and continue to do and people have lost loved ones. I think young people has become a catch-all term for anyone aged 18-35 and suggests that people over that age don't have a social life and are happy to be following restrictions which is obviously very far from the case.


  • #3660
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    prunudo wrote: »
    I think the government are subtly pushing some level of herd immunity. On one hand they imply that we're in a level 5 lockdown but anyone who is allowed work will know its pretty much life as normal. Some people will jump up and down slamming this behaviour but the fact is we're not all in this together and its the people who hang on the governments every word and are fearing for the covid monster that are most appalled by people getting on with their lives within the guidelines.
    It appears that household spread causes a lot of the issues but in order in stop socail gatherings its an easier sell if they close large sections of business. I do wonder if closing retail and hairdressing is wise giving the procedures they had adopted to control the spread.

    You do realise at the 7 day rate we are at now it could take over 25 years to reach 70% herd immunity. I do agree with the rest of your post.


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  • #3661
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭prunudo


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Just looking at reports there, was trying to find out if the rapper Jeremih had underlying conditions, I can't find any report specific to that, but it makes you think how inexplicable this virus is. This guy is only 33 years old and he is struggling on a ventilator, he wouldn't be my type of hip hop music now, but he looks really young to land himself into that condition. Clip from 2016 Pitchfork festival.



    Could easily be down to the lifestyle that goes with the music industry. All the partying, travelling, long hours on the road away from routine takes its toll on the body. He might not have underlying conditions but thats not to say he had a healthy life either.


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