Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

iamwhoiam · 14-11-2020 06:30PM

Steve012 wrote: »

Not a feasible solution but one that would definitely work.

Simple really, close all the worlds borders for about 8/9 months, C19 would die out. No need for an RNA vaccine. Out of curiosity would many of you folks on this thread take the vaccine?

I would take a vaccine when its my turn

Steve012 · 14-11-2020 06:32PM

hmmm wrote: »

It'd be a lot easier for all of us if the anti-everything group would just get vaccinated and let us move on with our lives.

I'm not anti anything man, worlds first RNA vaccine. Got an email from Arsenal fc, (big fan) people will only be let into the stadium if they show proof they have been vaccinated.

Deeper Blue · 14-11-2020 06:33PM

Vaccine certificates are the way to go.

"Don't want to take the vaccine? We won't make you but you won't be able to do x y and z without a certificate. Tough ****."

Steve012 · 14-11-2020 06:35PM

El Sueño wrote: »

Vaccine certificates are the way to go.

"Don't want to take the vaccine? We won't make you but you won't be able to do x y and z without a certificate. Tough ****."

Yes airlines as well, cruise ships etc..

hmmm · 14-11-2020 06:37PM

Steve012 wrote: »

I'm not anti anything man, worlds first RNA vaccine. Got an email from Arsenal fc, (big fan) people will only be let into the stadium if they show proof they have been vaccinated.

Or an alternative way to look at it is:
"Arsenal to allow people back into their ground safely. "

The world isn't going to revolve around people who refuse to get vaccinated, and I think personally we spend too much time tolerating anti-scientific mumbo jumbo. "World's first RNA vaccine" - as if that is supposed to mean anything other than trying to instill fear in people who don't know what that means. This is a technology which is going to revolutionise parts of medicine, and as some have said is possibly the biggest breakthrough in 100 years - it's to be celebrated, not used to spread fear.

Deeper Blue · 14-11-2020 06:37PM

Steve012 wrote: »

I'm not anti anything man, worlds first RNA vaccine. Got an email from Arsenal fc, (big fan) people will only be let into the stadium if they show proof they have been vaccinated.

That's a great idea, although as an Arsenal fan I'm not sure being able to watch them would be a good thing

Widdensushi · 14-11-2020 06:37PM

Steve012 wrote: »

Not a feasible solution but one that would definitely work.

Simple really, close all the worlds borders for about 8/9 months, C19 would die out. No need for an RNA vaccine. Out of curiosity would many of you folks on this thread take the vaccine?

How would it definitely work, animals could be carrying it, supposedly surfaces on frozen goods could be carrying it.

gipi · 14-11-2020 06:38PM

El Sueño wrote: »

Vaccine certificates are the way to go.

"Don't want to take the vaccine? We won't make you but you won't be able to do x y and z without a certificate. Tough ****."

Hasn't Ticketmaster already announced this? No entry to gigs unless you provide proof of vaccination? Thought I saw that somewhere...

Edit: I see that it's been denied, and seems to be a misinterpretation of what Ticketmaster did say

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54920146

Steve012 · 14-11-2020 06:38PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

How would it definitely work, animals could be carrying it, supposedly surfaces on frozen goods could be carrying it.

Worked in Taiwan and OZ,

Str8outtaWuhan · 14-11-2020 06:41PM

I've yet to see a cert, vaccine or doctors or otherwise, that cannot be forged. The immunisation passport kids get is so easy to duplicate.

Steve012 · 14-11-2020 06:42PM

Anyone know if the Russian vaccine was rolled out to the population there.

If it has, it doesn't seem to be doing anything cases are higher than since April.

prunudo · 14-11-2020 06:46PM

Once its only a short term guideline to get public places open I don't see it being an issue. Wouldn't like to see it becoming the mandatory or a long term normality. Starts going down a slippery slope if you're only allowed in somewhere in you meet certain medical or other criteria.

pjohnson · 14-11-2020 06:46PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

I've yet to see a cert, vaccine or doctors or otherwise, that cannot be forged. The immunisation passport kids get is so easy to duplicate.

Well there will always be a minority of scrotes who will forge documents and probably start up a black market in forging those certs but the vast majority wouldn't be arséd and do the far easier thing of just fcuking taking it.

lemonTrees · 14-11-2020 06:47PM

I will 100% be taking the vaccine when my turn comes around. Hoping its before next summer as I wont travel without it.

igCorcaigh · 14-11-2020 06:47PM

Do they expect the vaccine to be effective in the >65 group?

Steve012 · 14-11-2020 06:49PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Do they expect the vaccine to be effective in the >65 group?

Yes they are getting it first with Health care workers.

Thierry12 · 14-11-2020 06:49PM

gipi wrote: »

Hasn't Ticketmaster already announced this? No entry to gigs unless you provide proof of vaccination? Thought I saw that somewhere...

Absolute non runner

People who believe that don't understand supply and demand

They are not gonna turn down cash customers long term

They will u turn on this fast as will all the airlines and all other industries

If they don't u turn other companies will take those customers cash and they'll be out of business.

If Governments dont make it mandatory none of that nonsense will work and they won't.

The vulnerable will get vaccinated, hospitals will fill up with other diseases and everything will be back to normal

Do ye honestly think the premier league in the UK etc will not let fans paying £100 a ticket in without vaccination, haha

hmmm · 14-11-2020 06:49PM

Steve012 wrote: »

Anyone know if the Russian vaccine was rolled out to the population there.

If it has, it doesn't seem to be doing anything cases are higher than since April.

Only gone into phase 3 trials now so hasn't been released to the public.

Steve012 · 14-11-2020 06:52PM

hmmm wrote: »

Only gone into phase 3 trials now so hasn't been released to the public.

Nah phase 3? lol

Its been granted for use over there for months just read first batches were released to the public in Moscow Sept 4th

pjohnson · 14-11-2020 06:53PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

Absolute non runner

People who believe that don't understand supply and demand

They are not gonna turn down cash customers long term

They will u turn on this fast as will all the airlines and all other industries

If they don't u turn other companies will take those customers cash and they'll be out of business.

If Governments dont make it mandatory none of that nonsense will work and they won't.

The vulnerable will get vaccinated, hospitals will fill up with other diseases and everything will be back to normal

Do ye honestly think the premier league in the UK etc will not let fans paying £100 a ticket in without vaccination, haha

I doubt businesses will miss much from the anti-vax minority. Most people would happily take the vaccine in order to get back to attending what they love.

hmmm · 14-11-2020 06:53PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

Absolute non runner

People who believe that don't understand supply and demand

They are not gonna turn down cash customers long term

They will u turn on this fast as will all the airlines and all other industries

If they don't other u turn other companies will take those customers cash and they'll be out of business.

Businesses will do what they think will be attractive to the most customers.

The Hawaii airline route is interesting. Hawaii introduced mandatory testing on the route from the US, and the airlines assumed that demand would plummet as a consequence. In fact it has become one of the best performing routes in terms of keeping numbers vs pre-pandemic. Why? Because the airlines passengers feel it is safe to fly, whereas if they are on some other route they could be flying with someone who has Covid.

The airlines are now expanding testing as a consequence across all their other routes.

If you end up in a scenario with most of the population vaccinated, and the only remaining risk being catching the disease from someone who isn't vaccinated, the airline which offers vaccinated (or tested) only flights will probably do better than those who allow anyone to travel with them.

wadacrack · 14-11-2020 06:53PM

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1327669902040199168

Deeper Blue · 14-11-2020 06:56PM

pjohnson wrote: »

I doubt businesses will miss much from the anti-vax minority. Most people would happily take the vaccine in order to get back to attending what they love.

Once people realise that a vaccine is the only road out of this the anti vaxx muppets will fast become public enemy number one

titan18 · 14-11-2020 06:58PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

Absolute non runner

People who believe that don't understand supply and demand

They are not gonna turn down cash customers long term

They will u turn on this fast as will all the airlines and all other industries

If they don't u turn other companies will take those customers cash and they'll be out of business.

If Governments dont make it mandatory none of that nonsense will work and they won't.

The vulnerable will get vaccinated, hospitals will fill up with other diseases and everything will be back to normal

Do ye honestly think the premier league in the UK etc will not let fans paying £100 a ticket in without vaccination, haha

If they think the amount of people they lose is less than that the people they lose who won't go as they won't feel safe, they'll do it

stephenjmcd · 14-11-2020 06:59PM

6 deaths 456 cases

stephenjmcd · 14-11-2020 07:00PM

County breakdown. 14 day incidence down to 130.

Donegal still stubbornly high in incidence

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1327672545521389574?s=19