Convex Roadside Mirror

Lime Tree Farm · 13-11-2020 02:03PM #1

I need to have a Convex Mirror erected on an outfarm entrance to a busy road. Having to push the nose of the tractor too far into the road the get a view is the issue.

Any recommendation as to what to buy, size, weatherproofed, etc. Advice welcome.

_Brian · 13-11-2020 02:05PM

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

I need to have a Convex Mirror erected on an outfarm entrance to a busy road. Having to push the nose of the tractor too far into the road the get a view is the issue.

Any recommendation as to what to buy, size, weatherproofed, etc. Advice welcome.

Probably not as handy but I saw a contractor with a mirror fitted at the end of the bonnet on a tractor for this purpose.

I thought it was a great idea as they had it wherever they were and no problems with them getting vandalised etc.

wrangler · 13-11-2020 02:35PM

_Brian wrote: »

Probably not as handy but I saw a contractor with a mirror fitted at the end of the bonnet on a tractor for this purpose.

I thought it was a great idea as they had it wherever they were and no problems with them getting vandalised etc.

Unreal the number of them that's used for target practise

Lime Tree Farm · 13-11-2020 02:38PM

wrangler wrote: »

Unreal the number of them that's used for target practise

It will be the Convex or whatever type of one for the front of the tractor, if I can locate one. Anyone here have one.

jntsnk · 13-11-2020 02:39PM

_Brian wrote: »

Probably not as handy but I saw a contractor with a mirror fitted at the end of the bonnet on a tractor for this purpose.

I thought it was a great idea as they had it wherever they were and no problems with them getting vandalised etc.

Ya know a contractor that uses mirrors on the bonnet. Thought it was a great idea, bound to have saved a near miss or accident over the years

Say my name · 13-11-2020 02:49PM

I suppose the modern high tech equivalent will be traffic sensing cameras facing each way on the nose of the tractor. :pac:

Where's Emaherx??

Panch18 · 13-11-2020 03:14PM

don't the council usually put up those mirrors if you ask them?

Or you want to stay away from them?

hopeso · 13-11-2020 03:29PM

Say my name wrote: »

I suppose the modern high tech equivalent will be traffic sensing cameras facing each way on the nose of the tractor. :pac:

Where's Emaherx??

It might actually be the way to go. Technology is getting more affordable all the time. A small magnetic camera could easily be fitted or removed from the front of the tractor as needed.

A neighbour here fitted a mirror at a concealed entrance. Probably about 15 years ago now. It was absolutely useless from the first day. Maybe he just bought a bad one, or they've improved them since, but it was a waste of time....

Base price · 13-11-2020 03:34PM

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

It will be the Convex or whatever type of one for the front of the tractor, if I can locate one. Anyone here have one.

Trucks have to have convex/cyclops mirrors. Most motor factors would have a range of them.

Lime Tree Farm · 13-11-2020 03:34PM

Panch18 wrote: »

don't the council usually put up those mirrors if you ask them?

Or you want to stay away from them?

I don't know, but will ask the local councillor.

Gillespy · 13-11-2020 03:37PM

Cameras and tractor mounted mirrors are fine if that is the only thing coming out that gap. And they need minding too. A good roadside mirror will help everyone.

Lime Tree Farm · 13-11-2020 04:02PM

Say my name wrote: »

I suppose the modern high tech equivalent will be traffic sensing cameras facing each way on the nose of the tractor. :pac:

Where's Emaherx??

You mightn't be too far off, that or a Billy Connolly prescription windscreen.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/bmw-to-adopt-virtual-reality-windscreen-1.4131629

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ICmTyPeCw&list=PLt51O6axLxhX1NqUfDJUTCbQ0reolOZJx&index=72&t=0s

emaherx · 13-11-2020 06:45PM

Say my name wrote: »

I suppose the modern high tech equivalent will be traffic sensing cameras facing each way on the nose of the tractor. :pac:

Where's Emaherx??

In the shed working on it now

bubbagumss · 13-11-2020 06:51PM

the council does not put them in.if you don't have telegraph pole you put up your own metal pole about 8 feet you can buy the mirrors from uk

Lime Tree Farm · 13-11-2020 06:57PM

bubbagumss wrote: »

the council does not put them in.if you don't have telegraph pole you put up your own metal pole about 8 feet you can buy the mirrors from uk

There is a telegraph pole right beside the entrance, didn't think you would be allowed use that.

Lime Tree Farm · 13-11-2020 07:44PM

Found this - might be the answer

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/watch-and-listen-clever-on-farm-safety-in-carlow-321973

Extract: “Irish Farmer’s Journal 7 Nov 2017 -Tom Bolger, Borris, Co. Carlow & his son Ian have improved safety on their farm using their own intuition”.

“Our farm is split by a main road with no hard shoulder or grassy verge. There are 5ft hedges either side so pulling out on to the road in a tractor can be a nightmare – you’re so far away from the front of the machine and can’t see the traffic.

‘‘I used to have to get down from the cab, run out on to the road to check if the coast was clear, then quickly jump back into the cab. To overcome this, we fitted a pair of angled mirrors to the front of the bonnet and they’ve been a brilliant addition,”

Tom Bolger Bonnet mirrors.jpg

Tom Bolger Bonnet mirrors1.jpg

foxy farmer · 13-11-2020 08:40PM

The bonnet mounted mirror isn't a new idea. 30 odd years ago Gay Byrne would have would be inventors on the LLS every so often. There would be a few judges on giving their verdict. I remember a lad showing one of these bonnet mounted mirror on it one time. His idea didn't get a massive reception at the time.
On the pole mounted convex mirror get a good big one 2ft. If its small the oncoming images will be very small. If you see an image approaching stop. The size of the image is not a great indication of how far away the vehicle is and they can be on top of you in a shot.

Donald Trump · 13-11-2020 08:48PM

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Tom Bolger Bonnet mirrors.jpg

Tom Bolger Bonnet mirrors1.jpg

Tom Bolger has very neat tyres on his pit.

He might be safer just keeping the tops of the hedges tidy than relying on the mirrors on the other photo.

emaherx · 13-11-2020 08:52PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Tom Bolger has very neat tyres on his pit

(The good old boards background is more interesting than the subject of the photo)

They are bolted together in mats that can be lifted on and off with a teleporter.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00Yu9ZJF5kH3JWt6NeH6EULatAMzg:1605297219528&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=silage+pit+tyre+mats&client=ms-android-lenovo&fir=fOY9cd04HmaDyM%252CDDYBfWCDzNKgGM%252C_%253BAWltfn1WXK5M7M%252CPjIzjDfhjSK2fM%252C_%253BSdpsOO1NVJWdOM%252Cm5_ECg-9H6BOiM%252C_%253B1SxM-v0EK2JOsM%252CCqIlIImLe6XcrM%252C_%253BaYyILGVCPA-57M%252CPjIzjDfhjSK2fM%252C_%253BsxAYCelEiVzKAM%252CDDYBfWCDzNKgGM%252C_%253B0pQOOySWOI3BtM%252CCqIlIImLe6XcrM%252C_%253BqXqpO5VHc8znyM%252CRrJUP9RcibBOYM%252C_%253Bh_ePKUSBFL1Z4M%252CUxmUy-ho1CX6nM%252C_%253BMvnjy5Sh9SuxuM%252CYXo-ZqCQgeh_ZM%252C_%257Ckilkenny%253Blaois%253Bfarm%253Bsilage%2520clamp%253Btyre%2520walls%253Bliam%2520murphy&usg=AI4_-kQmpccNqueLmKS3prcibmq6AzwlLg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwihkZ2UpoDtAhVOURUIHc9uA_AQ7Al6BAgKEC4&biw=360&bih=568

Donald Trump · 13-11-2020 09:01PM

emaherx wrote: »

(The good old boards background is more interesting than the subject of the photo)

They are bolted together in mats that can be lifted on and off with a teleporter.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00Yu9ZJF5kH3JWt6NeH6EULatAMzg:1605297219528&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=silage+pit+tyre+mats&client=ms-android-lenovo&fir=fOY9cd04HmaDyM%252CDDYBfWCDzNKgGM%252C_%253BAWltfn1WXK5M7M%252CPjIzjDfhjSK2fM%252C_%253BSdpsOO1NVJWdOM%252Cm5_ECg-9H6BOiM%252C_%253B1SxM-v0EK2JOsM%252CCqIlIImLe6XcrM%252C_%253BaYyILGVCPA-57M%252CPjIzjDfhjSK2fM%252C_%253BsxAYCelEiVzKAM%252CDDYBfWCDzNKgGM%252C_%253B0pQOOySWOI3BtM%252CCqIlIImLe6XcrM%252C_%253BqXqpO5VHc8znyM%252CRrJUP9RcibBOYM%252C_%253Bh_ePKUSBFL1Z4M%252CUxmUy-ho1CX6nM%252C_%253BMvnjy5Sh9SuxuM%252CYXo-ZqCQgeh_ZM%252C_%257Ckilkenny%253Blaois%253Bfarm%253Bsilage%2520clamp%253Btyre%2520walls%253Bliam%2520murphy&usg=AI4_-kQmpccNqueLmKS3prcibmq6AzwlLg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwihkZ2UpoDtAhVOURUIHc9uA_AQ7Al6BAgKEC4&biw=360&bih=568

He must have notions. Whatever happened to the good old days of sloshing randomly sized ones around by hand and trying not to get soaked from the manky water lying in them for the last 6 months

emaherx · 13-11-2020 09:08PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

He must have notions. Whatever happened to the good old days of sloshing randomly sized ones around by hand and trying not to get soaked from the manky water lying in them for the last 6 months

Ah here.... Lads don't get dirty hands anymore. If it can't be done with a joystick it's just too much work.

Aravo · 13-11-2020 10:09PM

emaherx wrote: »

Ah here.... Lads don't get dirty hands anymore. If it can't be done with a joystick it's just too much work.

That's a bit like someone near me. Who has a excavator but no shovel. If the digger can't do it then it can't be done

tabby aspreme · 13-11-2020 10:51PM

Another option instead of a mirror, is to get a piece of polished stainless steel folded at 90 degrees, and mount that on a post, it would give you a view from both sides.

davidk1394 · 15-11-2020 01:02PM

I put this up recently at the entrance. Makes things much safer. On wet or foggy morning condensation might build up at the top of the mirror just under the cover.

This is the crowd I bought them off of http://postboxes.ie/index_files/RoadsideSafetyMirrors.htm

Lime Tree Farm · 15-11-2020 01:12PM

davidk1394 wrote: »

I put this up recently at the entrance. Makes things much safer. On wet or foggy morning condensation might build up at the top of the mirror just under the cover.

This is the crowd I bought them off of http://postboxes.ie/index_files/RoadsideSafetyMirrors.htm

Excellent, thank you.

davidk1394 · 15-11-2020 01:36PM

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Excellent, thank you.

Clamps come with the mirrors. I got a lengt of 10ft steel pipe. Dug a hole 2ft deep put it in the pipe and some quick set cement in with some stone and that was it.

SuperTortoise · 15-11-2020 02:14PM

foxy farmer wrote: »

The bonnet mounted mirror isn't a new idea. 30 odd years ago Gay Byrne would have would be inventors on the LLS every so often. There would be a few judges on giving their verdict. I remember a lad showing one of these bonnet mounted mirror on it one time. His idea didn't get a massive reception at the time.
On the pole mounted convex mirror get a good big one 2ft. If its small the oncoming images will be very small. If you see an image approaching stop. The size of the image is not a great indication of how far away the vehicle is and they can be on top of you in a shot.

Yep, I have a 2ft one, it's a lot better than nothing but how far away cars are can be deceptive, I've often see a small speck in the mirror and before you know it that car will be on top of you. Think I got one on Amazon for 30 euro ish.

hopeso · 15-11-2020 08:21PM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Yep, I have a 2ft one, it's a lot better than nothing but how far away cars are can be deceptive, I've often see a small speck in the mirror and before you know it that car will be on top of you. Think I got one on Amazon for 30 euro ish.

That's the problem with convex mirrors. You're not getting a true image

Anto_Meath · 17-11-2020 10:27AM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

2 folk killed near me tonight by a tractor with loader coming out of a field.
Car was apparently overtaking a slower moving vehicle. Over took it fine and was just about to move into lane again when a tractor with loader emerged from field and killed both occupants on that side.

We've one to put up ourselves. Whatever you're for putting up, get it done. Wouldn't want anyone to have that on their conscience.

OMG that is terrible, the poor people.

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