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  • #8822
    Lawlaw12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Lawlaw12


    Katiemckay60 wrote: »
    Anyone else so scared for constitutional? Like I have so much covered Cos I’m afraid of not being able to answer 5 qs but then I don’t feel like I’ll remember enough On any topic to write 5 good answers. Hoping examiner is an easy marker!!

    Yes! I feel like I have to cover so much that I can't actually remember anything!!:(


  • #8823
    EmmaO94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭EmmaO94


    Just noticed that I'm scheduled for the EU exam but I passed it in August! Anyone else experiencing this??


  • #8824
    Katiemckay60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭Katiemckay60


    If a q came up on international agreement with with expenditure would you discuss distributive justice as well as international relations and Collins. I.e reilly, sinnot etc


  • #8825
    Fe1nov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭Fe1nov


    Anyone have any predictions or must have covered for the contract exam please ?
    Starting to panic I haven't covered enough


  • #8826
    Fe1forthefun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Fe1forthefun


    Katiemckay60 wrote: »
    If a q came up on international agreement with with expenditure would you discuss distributive justice as well as international relations and Collins. I.e reilly, sinnot etc

    I don't know why distributive justice would come into it. EU law cannot make any determinations with regarding taxation, social welfare etc so it wouldn't come up. Pringle case might be relevant here. The only expenditure that I can think of would be expenditure by Ireland as a state to conform with an international agreement and therefore it wouldn't be a distributive justice issue - does that make sense?

    Very tired and definitely going to be up all night.


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  • #8827
    Fe1forthefun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Fe1forthefun


    EmmaO94 wrote: »
    Just noticed that I'm scheduled for the EU exam but I passed it in August! Anyone else experiencing this??

    I wouldn't panic - I think a few people mentioned they were scheduled for EU a couple of weeks ago even though they passed it in August so it must be a repeated issue. I'd email Law School tomorrow to flag.


  • #8828
    shaunadennyham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭shaunadennyham


    What do we reckon? Rights of the unborn and constitutional interpretation are my bankers. Was a lot of property rights in March so am not focusing on them as much


  • #8829
    channing90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭channing90


    Anyone have an essay on rights of the unborn that I could have ? Also are people’s essays on the role of the president very short ?


  • #8830
    Lawlaw12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Lawlaw12


    Under right to life I have a good bit on refusal of medical treatment/ no right to die
    But only a couple of cases on the unborn.... would people discuss general right to life (Shaw case) in a Q on the unborn or exclusively discuss the unborn?


  • #8831
    Hamerzan Sickles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Hamerzan Sickles


    It's going to be a very long night you guys, if I don't pass this I am going to be devastated.


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  • #8832
    Hamerzan Sickles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Hamerzan Sickles


    Lawlaw12 wrote: »
    Under right to life I have a good bit on refusal of medical treatment/ no right to die
    But only a couple of cases on the unborn.... would people discuss general right to life (Shaw case) in a Q on the unborn or exclusively discuss the unborn?

    The latter.

    Edit: well, actually, I suppose it would make sense to frame the right to life in the context of a hierarchy of rights as a preface to the right of the unborn. Shaw and the others are probably useful for an introduction.


  • #8833
    Fe1forthefun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Fe1forthefun


    What would people write for right to life for unborn? I wasn't going to prepare that at all - what cases are there?


  • #8834
    Katiemckay60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭Katiemckay60


    Fe1forthefun wrote: »
    I don't know why distributive justice would come into it. EU law cannot make any determinations with regarding taxation, social welfare etc so it wouldn't come up. Pringle case might be relevant here. The only expenditure that I can think of would be expenditure by Ireland as a state to conform with an international agreement and therefore it wouldn't be a distributive justice issue - does that make sense?

    Very tired and definitely going to be up all night.


    Thanks for that- I don’t think I really understand distributive justice that’s why I thought it would come into it haha thanks


  • #8835
    Katiemckay60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭Katiemckay60


    shaunadennyham wrote: »
    What do we reckon? Rights of the unborn and constitutional interpretation are my bankers. Was a lot of property rights in March so am not focusing on them as much

    Can I ask why you’re predicting right of unborn? I don’t have much on it


  • #8836
    Lelila
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 ✭Lelila


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    I did it in March and thought the paper was a stinker. Missed out by 2 marks so here's hoping tomorrow is a bit nicer, last exam too :D

    Keep reading the questions, you'll be able to find something for sure that you can incorporate!


    I'm in the same boat exactly. Hopefully they'll give us a nice paper as the March one was so bad! Good luck with the exam. Just think, this time tomorrow we'll (hopefully) be all done.


  • #8837
    fe12020autumn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭fe12020autumn


    CONTRACT LEGISLATION:

    Hi there - can anyone please clarify what legislation we are allowed for Contract:
    - The SGA 1980
    - The SGA 1893
    - Are we allowed to bring in a copy of The SGA 1893 Revised Act? - this is the 1893 act that is quoted throughout the manual...


  • #8838
    Lawlaw12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Lawlaw12


    Katiemckay60 wrote: »
    Thanks for that- I don’t think I really understand distributive justice that’s why I thought it would come into it haha thanks

    haha distributive justice just involves the distribution of the resources of the State, like housing etc., it's not for the courts to get involved with how the State allocates the resources it has - the state is balancing the interests of many parties when it distributes it's resources, so the court can't look at that
    Hope that makes sense lol, I'm actually leaving it out altogether anyway


  • #8839
    shaunadennyham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭shaunadennyham


    Katiemckay60 wrote: »
    Can I ask why you’re predicting right of unborn? I don’t have much on it

    I’m just hopeful!!


  • #8840
    Katiemckay60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭Katiemckay60


    Lawlaw12 wrote: »
    haha distributive justice just involves the distribution of the resources of the State, like housing etc., it's not for the courts to get involved with how the State allocates the resources it has - the state is balancing the interests of many parties when it distributes it's resources, so the court can't look at that
    Hope that makes sense lol, I'm actually leaving it out altogether anyway

    Does it include funds? Was thinking (as you said before) If international agreement involves charge on public funds then that would be distribution of public funds and court shouldn’t get involved ?
    Like obviously question would be on international relations like Gillihand,crotty, Pringle and then Collins- but just wondering would you throw that in- didn’t want to do if it was wrong
    If I’m still not making sense just ignore me haha


  • #8841
    Fe1forthefun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Fe1forthefun


    Katiemckay60 wrote: »
    Does it include funds? Was thinking (as you said before) If international agreement involves charge on public funds then that would be distribution of public funds and court shouldn’t get involved ?
    Like obviously question would be on international relations like Gillihand,crotty, Pringle and then Collins- but just wondering would you throw that in- didn’t want to do if it was wrong
    If I’m still not making sense just ignore me haha

    No! The only time you need to think of distributive justice is if the right is a socio-economic right which the court won't get involved in.

    A good example of this is the O'Reilly case: travellers who wanted a modest standard of living in the form of the caravan. Ct wouldn't get involved because they are not going to tell state how to distribute money between the citizens.

    Just think of in terms of housing, education etc - relationship between citizens and the state, not international agreements!!

    If there is a charge on public funds in an international agreement that it not necessarily unconstitutional as long as it was laid before the Dail - google the Pringle case and everything should be clear!


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  • #8842
    Katiemckay60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭Katiemckay60


    Fe1forthefun wrote: »
    No! The only time you need to think of distributive justice is if the right is a socio-economic right which the court won't get involved in.

    A good example of this is the O'Reilly case: travellers who wanted a modest standard of living in the form of the caravan. Ct wouldn't get involved because they are not going to tell state how to distribute money between the citizens.

    Just think of in terms of housing, education etc - relationship between citizens and the state, not international agreements!!

    If there is a charge on public funds in an international agreement that it not necessarily unconstitutional as long as it was laid before the Dail - google the Pringle case and everything should be clear!

    Oh ok I understand now!! Thanks so much that’s so helpful!!


  • #8843
    Twinings2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Twinings2016


    Does anyone know if the Law Society will keep the online exams for next years sittings???


  • #8844
    shaunadennyham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭shaunadennyham


    Twinings2016 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the Law Society will keep the online exams for next years sittings???

    Well given the fact that nobody here has a crystal ball it’s impossible to say for sure. It will depend on whether we are on lockdown of level 3 or above come next spring.


  • #8845
    CiaraND16
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭CiaraND16


    fe12020autumn wrote: »
    CONTRACT LEGISLATION:

    Hi there - can anyone please clarify what legislation we are allowed for Contract:
    - The SGA 1980
    - The SGA 1893
    - Are we allowed to bring in a copy of The SGA 1893 Revised Act? - this is the 1893 act that is quoted throughout the manual...


    I was wondering the same thing, if we don't quote the amendments will we be penalised/ are we meant to go with the 1893 we have?


  • #8846
    Fe7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Fe7


    shaunadennyham wrote: »
    Well given the fact that nobody here has a crystal ball it’s impossible to say for sure. It will depend on whether we are on lockdown of level 3 or above come next spring.

    Been following this thread for sometime and your comments can be quite argumentative and rude with other users.


  • #8847
    Twinings2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Twinings2016


    shaunadennyham wrote: »
    Well given the fact that nobody here has a crystal ball it’s impossible to say for sure. It will depend on whether we are on lockdown of level 3 or above come next spring.

    haha, deadly. many thanks for your ratty feedback :)

    I have spoken with the law society many times and they drip-feed information, I was simply wondering if anyone out there may have been speaking with them and heard something to that effect.


  • #8848
    JayFE1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭JayFE1


    Katiemckay60 wrote: »
    Anyone else so scared for constitutional? Like I have so much covered Cos I’m afraid of not being able to answer 5 qs but then I don’t feel like I’ll remember enough On any topic to write 5 good answers. Hoping examiner is an easy marker!!

    The most disappointing thing would be seeing the likes of referendums, president, the Family, etc come up and you’re underprepared because of the sheer amount. Some of the topics are not really that complicated and actually quite interesting but it’s the overload that gets me. Like Criminal, your advantage of familiarity with certain topics e.g. guardianship is taken away by the sheer amount of other topics.

    I think he might be - in the exam reports he said that it is often the case that candidates have passed the exam with 4 questions.


  • #8849
    shaunadennyham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭shaunadennyham


    Fe7 wrote: »
    Been following this thread for sometime and your comments can be quite argumentative and rude with other users.

    Thanks !


  • #8850
    shaunadennyham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭shaunadennyham


    Twinings2016 wrote: »
    haha, deadly. many thanks for your ratty feedback :)

    I have spoken with the law society many times and they drip-feed information, I was simply wondering if anyone out there may have been speaking with them and heard something to that effect.

    Haha sorry didn’t mean to be ratty !! Given the fact that holding exams in person is cheaper and easier to run from an admin perspective I’d imagine they’ll go back to in person unless there’s another Dublin or national level 3 or above in the spring. If we’re level 2 or below we’ll all be back to the red cow


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  • #8851
    Fe1forthefun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Fe1forthefun


    shaunadennyham wrote: »
    Haha sorry didn’t mean to be ratty !! Given the fact that holding exams in person is cheaper and easier to run from an admin perspective I’d imagine they’ll go back to in person unless there’s another Dublin or national level 3 or above in the spring. If we’re level 2 or below we’ll all be back to the red cow

    I much preferred the RDS, wish they would hold them there! Easier to get to (and people can just stay anywhere in the city centre if they are travelling) and not as hot and stuffy!


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