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Lawlaw12 · 10-11-2020 07:51PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

What are people cramming for Constitutional and cutting for Constitutional? I'm rolling the dice on independence of the judiciary, cabinet confidentiality and international relations for SOP. Covering Trial In Due Course of Law also. Then focusing on Referenda, AG/Pres/Interpretation/Natural Law, Freedom of Expression, Association, Assembly, Equality, Religion, Fair Procedures (Duty To Give Reasons), Right To Life of The Born and Refusal of Medical Treatment.

Will that be enough?

Haven't fully narrowed it down yet, but from your list I'm leaving out international relations and religion and Trial in Due Course.
But I'm hoping I'll manage to do liberty, property & livelihood. I also have remedies.

A refusal of medical treatment Q would be so nice!

Edit: also don't forget to have one or two cases on standing, you can use it in almost any PQ

Lawlaw12 · 10-11-2020 07:55PM

Twinings2016 wrote: »

Does anyone have a summary of the Damache case???

The 2020 Damache case? It's basically just that the procedure for revocation of citizenship was unfair.
The Minister who initiated it also decided it, and was not bound by advice of independent committee.
So lack of independence. And also should have had high level FP since it was such a serious decision, with severe consequences

Iso_123 · 10-11-2020 08:10PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

What are people cramming for Constitutional and cutting for Constitutional? I'm rolling the dice on independence of the judiciary, cabinet confidentiality and international relations for SOP. Covering Trial In Due Course of Law also. Then focusing on Referenda, AG/Pres/Interpretation/Natural Law, Freedom of Expression, Association, Assembly, Equality, Religion, Fair Procedures (Duty To Give Reasons), Right To Life of The Born and Refusal of Medical Treatment.

Will that be enough?

I am pretty similar except I have proportionality, access to the courts and property/livlihood added

left out right to refuse medical treatment/right of the unborn and I literally only have a few equality cases!

Also didn't bother with remedies and decs of unconstitutionality so hoping that doesnt come up hahah

Hazel774 · 10-11-2020 08:22PM

If a case note on Zalewski v WRC came up would you also write about the Zalewski v Adjudication Officer case? (and visa versa)

I know they're different cases, but my understanding is Z v Adjudication officer is re standing to challenge WRC and then Z v WRC is the actual challenge, so they tie in together?

Hazel774 · 10-11-2020 08:26PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

What are people cramming for Constitutional and cutting for Constitutional? I'm rolling the dice on independence of the judiciary, cabinet confidentiality and international relations for SOP. Covering Trial In Due Course of Law also. Then focusing on Referenda, AG/Pres/Interpretation/Natural Law, Freedom of Expression, Association, Assembly, Equality, Religion, Fair Procedures (Duty To Give Reasons), Right To Life of The Born and Refusal of Medical Treatment.
Will that be enough?

Iso_123 wrote: »

I am pretty similar except I have proportionality, access to the courts and property/livlihood added

left out right to refuse medical treatment/right of the unborn and I literally only have a few equality cases!

Also didn't bother with remedies and decs of unconstitutionality so hoping that doesnt come up hahah

Are you guys leaving out non-delegation doctrine then?
And non-justiciability/ parliamentary privilege?

Iso_123 · 10-11-2020 08:28PM

Hazel774 wrote: »

Are you guys leaving out non-delegation doctrine then?
And non-justiciability/ parliamentary privilege?

Sorry no i have the non delegation doctrine too I must have just missed that! also have 2 cases on cabinet confidentiality(art 28.4) and then I have a good bit on non justiciability re art 15.10 15.12 and 15.13

rickmatt · 10-11-2020 08:34PM

Hi if it's covenient for anyone could you sum up the PP v Judges of the Circuit Court case, thanks in advance

Hamerzan Sickles · 10-11-2020 08:40PM

Hazel774 wrote: »

Are you guys leaving out non-delegation doctrine then?
And non-justiciability/ parliamentary privilege?

Yes, I am. They both came up as essay questions last time. I'm not expecting either to surface on this paper.

Katiemckay60 · 10-11-2020 08:45PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

Yes, I am. They both came up as essay questions last time. I'm not expecting either to surface on this paper.

What about judicial power /admin of justice by courts . I hope it doesn’t come up Cos I can’t spot it in prob qs

Hazel774 · 10-11-2020 08:45PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

Yes, I am. They both came up as essay questions last time. I'm not expecting either to surface on this paper.

I hope you're right lol

I'll have a look just in case but hoping not to see them on the paper. The NDD case on the last paper was very tricky!

Lawlaw12 · 10-11-2020 08:47PM

Katiemckay60 wrote: »

What about judicial power /admin of justice by courts . I hope it doesn’t come up Cos I can’t spot it in prob qs

Potential essay Q on judicial power re sentencing - the City Colleges lecturer flagged Ellis case as very important both this sitting and last
I'd much rather it as an essay than a PQ though

Fe1forthefun · 10-11-2020 08:49PM

From analysing the papers I wouldn't be surprised if we got an essay on constitutional interpretation - might be handy to have a case or two per heading just in case you had to do it. (I could be completely wrong)

Iso_123 · 10-11-2020 08:49PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

Yes, I am. They both came up as essay questions last time. I'm not expecting either to surface on this paper.

Thank god the non delegation doctrine essay came up in March, I thought it was a horrible question. I just have a knowledge of it for a problem question or if a general SOP essay came up.

I think knowing the kerins v mcguinnes case is handy for a possible case note

Hamerzan Sickles · 10-11-2020 08:49PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

What are people cramming for Constitutional and cutting for Constitutional? I'm rolling the dice on independence of the judiciary, cabinet confidentiality and international relations for SOP. Covering Trial In Due Course of Law also. Then focusing on Referenda, AG/Pres/Interpretation/Natural Law, Freedom of Expression, Association, Assembly, Equality, Religion, Fair Procedures (Duty To Give Reasons), Right To Life of The Born and Refusal of Medical Treatment.

Will that be enough?

For the sake of full disclosure, I am adding locus standi and the right to privacy to this. If this isn't enough, so help me.

Hamerzan Sickles · 10-11-2020 08:53PM

Katiemckay60 wrote: »

What about judicial power /admin of justice by courts . I hope it doesn’t come up Cos I can’t spot it in prob qs

I read over it earlier but my own hunch is one question on the independence of the judiciary (so like appointment, immunity from suit, dismissal and pay) and one question on international relations (particular emphasis here on an essay Q on Crotty and Pringle). Of course there is no way to know for certain.

Then I imagine: essay question on disputed result of a referendum; problem question on freedom of expression and company; problem question on freedom of religion and equality. Essay question on one of Pres/AG/constitutional interpretation/natural law. Problem question on trial in due course of law. Essay question on duty to give reasons (fair procedures).

If not the above - perhaps a question on the right to life of the unborn/the right to refuse medical treatment.

Hamerzan Sickles · 10-11-2020 08:55PM

Hazel774 wrote: »

I hope you're right lol

I'll have a look just in case but hoping not to see them on the paper. The NDD case on the last paper was very tricky!

Iso_123 wrote: »

Thank god the non delegation doctrine essay came up in March, I thought it was a horrible question. I just have a knowledge of it for a problem question or if a general SOP essay came up.

I think knowing the kerins v mcguinnes case is handy for a possible case note

Yeah, that NDD problem destroyed me last sitting. Would have passed otherwise. I think Kerins v McGuinness is doubtful as a case note Q because it was pretty directly asked last paper. But I could be very wrong.

JayFE1 · 10-11-2020 09:01PM

Katiemckay60 wrote: »

What about judicial power /admin of justice by courts . I hope it doesn’t come up Cos I can’t spot it in prob qs

This is such a good shout. I agree - it threw me too in the one of the past papers. I have about 4 pages done out on it and I thought I’d be cutting it today but unfortunately I’m spending more time on it than say NDD at this stage!

lsheehaneire · 10-11-2020 09:02PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

Yeah, that NDD problem destroyed me last sitting. Would have passed otherwise. I think Kerins v McGuinness is doubtful as a case note Q because it was pretty directly asked last paper. But I could be very wrong.

NDD???

iana2017 · 10-11-2020 09:04PM

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shaunadennyham · 10-11-2020 09:05PM

iana2017 wrote: »

Guys...what do you do when u need to go to toilet? There's no button or anything there re this?! Just...simply go?! ðŸ€”

Yea just go

Lawlaw12 · 10-11-2020 09:12PM

lsheehaneire wrote: »

NDD???

Non-delegation doctrine (Cityview press etc.)

Lawlaw12 · 10-11-2020 09:13PM

Fe1forthefun wrote: »

From analysing the papers I wouldn't be surprised if we got an essay on constitutional interpretation - might be handy to have a case or two per heading just in case you had to do it. (I could be completely wrong)

Yea one of interpretation/ president/ AG is apparently due a run... would be handy enough

channing90 · 10-11-2020 09:14PM

What is administration of justice As in what falls under this ???

Fe1forthefun · 10-11-2020 09:15PM

channing90 wrote: »

What is administration of justice As in what falls under this ???

I assume public administration of justice - Gilchrist? I am leaving it out as it came up as an essay last year.

Iso_123 · 10-11-2020 09:17PM

channing90 wrote: »

What is administration of justice As in what falls under this ???

Fe1forthefun wrote: »

I assume public administration of justice - Gilchrist? I am leaving it out as it came up as an essay last year.

yeah i think this and then just the fact justice has to be administered by a court (34) and then art 37 too for limited forms of justice? like Mcdonald v bord na gcon and zawelski v wrc

Katiemckay60 · 10-11-2020 09:30PM

Iso_123 wrote: »

yeah i think this and then just the fact justice has to be administered by a court (34) and then art 37 too for limited forms of justice? like Mcdonald v bord na gcon and zawelski v wrc

Ya I just mean admin of justice in relation to SOP like Sinn Fein finds case - Buckley AG then conclusive evidence, sentencing. Admin of justice of public came up last sitting so not really looking. At that

Katiemckay60 · 10-11-2020 09:33PM

Anyone else so scared for constitutional? Like I have so much covered Cos I’m afraid of not being able to answer 5 qs but then I don’t feel like I’ll remember enough On any topic to write 5 good answers. Hoping examiner is an easy marker!!

Jeremiah25 · 10-11-2020 09:34PM

Katiemckay60 wrote: »

Anyone else so scared for constitutional? Like I have so much covered Cos I’m afraid of not being able to answer 5 qs but then I don’t feel like I’ll remember enough On any topic to write 5 good answers. Hoping examiner is an easy marker!!

I did it in March and thought the paper was a stinker. Missed out by 2 marks so here's hoping tomorrow is a bit nicer, last exam too

Keep reading the questions, you'll be able to find something for sure that you can incorporate!

Iso_123 · 10-11-2020 09:38PM

Katiemckay60 wrote: »

Anyone else so scared for constitutional? Like I have so much covered Cos I’m afraid of not being able to answer 5 qs but then I don’t feel like I’ll remember enough On any topic to write 5 good answers. Hoping examiner is an easy marker!!

I have such an irrational fear of the constitutional exam honestly it was somehow my best mark in college but im terrified of this exam! I find issue spotting hard in the problem questions for constitutional but not really for other subjects for some reason?? so im worried about misidentifying issues tomorrow. Hopefully it'll be a nice paper for us!

Katiemckay60 · 10-11-2020 09:40PM

Iso_123 wrote: »

I have such an irrational fear of the constitutional exam honestly it was somehow my best mark in college but im terrified of this exam! I find issue spotting hard in the problem questions for constitutional but not really for other subjects for some reason?? so im worried about misidentifying issues tomorrow. Hopefully it'll be a nice paper for us!

Same as that! I haven’t a clue what’s going on with most prob qsðŸ˜‚ hopefully we get nice essays

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