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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • #2402
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    combat14 wrote: »
    interesting read

    Can Trump take election result directly to Supreme Court? No, but he could win if it gets there: legal expert

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5789345

    Of course he could win if it goes to the Supreme court, the majority of them are his supporters.

    Doesnt mean itd be the right result.


  • #2403
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,435 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Not organized that's for sure. But history will show millions of first time voters, all voting on genuine ballots, and all rightly getting counted.
    But there is no accountability for .. lets say Mom, who got 5 ballots in the mail. One for her, husband, two sons and daughter. Mom the only one who would ever vote in person, rest have no interest, and never did, and never will vote, couldn't careless about the whole crapfest that it is. But Mom used her 5 ballots, filled them all in, and threw them from her car window into a ballot box. Suddenly Biden has 5 votes this election, rather than one in a normal election where mom can't hide her husband, two sons and daughter in her purse while she goes to vote in person.
    The system is flawed, while the count I believe is honest.
    This ...crap....again ..


  • #2404
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Yes, look at what voting for all the smooth talkers has gotten us. Trillions in debt, God knows how many wars.

    Yes lets vote for more debt and more wars because Trump can be a dick. The "peace loving" Lefties really showed him.

    BTW. You vote for polices. Not personality. Try it here one time. Ireland might not be so ****ed.

    Trump added trillions to the national debt even before coronavirus and expanded bombing in places like Yemen and Somalia. Next time check your talking points before spouting rubbish.


  • #2405
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    So who did all the cheating? The Trump supporters that turned up and voted on the untraceable electronic voting machines or the Biden ones that stayed home in a pandemic and voted by traceable paper ballots?

    Are you kidding? The US or any western country doesn't use electronic voting machines anymore for reasons already explained.


  • #2406
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I'll bite.
    paleoperson wrote: »
    Or like electronic voting - there is just no proper trail that can be watched all the way from person to count. There were plenty of people willing to bet their house on electronic voting (Ireland's ludicrously expensive electronic voting disaster springs to mind) and after one or two years of use it all collapsed because there is no way to regulate it or ensure its legitimacy.

    No voting system is foolproof and they all have their flaws. Just because your candidate lost doesn't mean you should jump to the assumption that it's because of a flawed voting system, especially when you weren't concerned about the integrity of that voting system as recently as four years ago.
    paleoperson wrote: »
    You can choose to believe that Biden got by far the most votes of anyone else in the history of the presidential election and Trump got the second most, easily destroying the amount that won him it last time. You can choose to believe that people went out and voted more strongly than ever, despite being in the middle of the worst and most deadly pandemic in modern times and almost all the votes came in Biden. Vastly more than all the people who voted for Hillary. To vote for someone who has mixed up his wife and sister. But is it smart to believe it? No.

    Turnout was high this year because democrats made the mistake four years ago of assuming that no one in their right mind would vote for someone the likes of Trump, were shown to be wrong and were not going to make that same mistake again. Republicans were aware that democrat turnout would be greater this time because of that and so their turnout also became higher. It is fully expected and is in no way odd that both candidates broke records with the number of votes.
    paleoperson wrote: »
    The truth is that election fraud happens a lot more often than would ever be admitted by people in western democracies. This is because the people must have faith that they have power, that their vote matters. In reality lots of shenanigans occur behind the scenes, and this time there was particular opportunity for it.

    No, that is not the truth, that is your opinion. As I said, you were not concerned about the voting system four years ago, you are only concerned now because your candidate lost.


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  • #2407
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,356 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Funkfield wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/alphaisvibin/status/1325201722244034560?s=20

    This exact tweet seems to be being tweeted a lot in reply to lots of accounts. All bots?
    Zak Flaps wrote: »
    Yes. I've seen tons of these.

    That or England will be getting a huge influx of people


  • #2408
    Zak Flaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Zak Flaps


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Yes, look at what voting for all the smooth talkers has gotten us. Trillions in debt, God knows how many wars.

    Yes lets vote for more debt and more wars because Trump can be a dick. The "peace loving" Lefties really showed him.

    BTW. You vote for polices. Not personality. Try it here one time. Ireland might not be so ****ed.

    I think that's the biggest understatement I've ever heard.


  • #2409
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You may not agree with my post, but at least it said something. Yours is an empty glib comment

    Just because your post had more words doesnt mean it said anything.

    Do Pharma companies make profits outside the US or not?


  • #2410
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Not organized that's for sure. But history will show millions of first time voters, all voting on genuine ballots, and all rightly getting counted.
    But there is no accountability for .. lets say Mom, who got 5 ballots in the mail. One for her, husband, two sons and daughter. Mom the only one who would ever vote in person, rest have no interest, and never did, and never will vote, couldn't careless about the whole crapfest that it is. But Mom used her 5 ballots, filled them all in, and threw them from her car window into a ballot box. Suddenly Biden has 5 votes this election, rather than one in a normal election where mom can't hide her husband, two sons and daughter in her purse while she goes to vote in person.
    The system is flawed, while the count I believe is honest.

    Republican could easily do the same.


  • #2411
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Oh, I was under impression the signatures don't have to match. What actually happens?

    feel free to educate yourself on the process.


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  • #2412
    kerry_man15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭kerry_man15


    All the celebrities now gloating and celebrating and complaining that Trump won't accept the result....hypocrites the lot of them. They've never accepted that Trump won in 2016 and having been whining and crying about it ever since and refusing to accept that he was "their president" even though he won the election fair and square.
    Gloating and rubbing the result in people's faces doesn't help to unify the country, it does the opposite, something they've accused Trump of doing all this time.
    I don't care for either side tbh but can't stand the holier than thou attitude of these celebrities. The US is as divided as ever no matter who the president is. This election has been far closer than anyone thought, the electorate has not rejected Trump or Trumpism, he has achieved more votes than the last time, in fact the second highest total ever and most by a sitting president. Not the crushing defeat that the mainstream press was hoping for and had led us to believe. America is in a pretty bad place right now, the division between sides is stark. Could make for an interesting few years.
    The Democrats can not complain however if Republicans make a fuss over the result as they have been doing it since the last election. They were very sore losers the last time.


  • #2413
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    How do trump supporters think it hurts in a world where trump spent the last 8 years or so spreading bull**** like the Obama birther stuff and calling everyone he doesnt like a childish name.

    "oh, but Joe wore a one hat making fun of Trump, he's basically Hitler"

    i'm sure this thread has already been goodwinned.

    did biden promote unity?
    does ripping the piss out of trump help achieve that goal?


  • #2414
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    gmisk wrote: »
    This ...crap....again ..

    *sycophantic jubilee*

    *covid hugs*

    *presidential-meme-hats*


  • #2415
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Of course he could win if it goes to the Supreme court, the majority of them are his supporters.

    Doesnt mean itd be the right result.

    Win what exactly? There's no legal case. Every case they've taken to court this week so far has been trivial and essentially thrown out.


  • #2416
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,586 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    kerry_man15 wrote: »
    All the celebrities now gloating and celebrating and complaining that Trump won't accept the result....hypocrites the lot of them. They've never accepted that Trump won in 2016 and having been whining and crying about it ever since and refusing to accept that he was "their president" even though he won the election fair and square.
    Gloating and rubbing the result in people's faces doesn't help to unify the country, it does the opposite, something they've accused Trump of doing all this time.
    I don't care for either side tbh but can't stand the holier than thou attitude of these celebrities. The US is as divided as ever no matter who the president is. This election has been far closer than anyone thought, the electorate has not rejected Trump or Trumpism, he has achieved more votes than the last time, in fact the second highest total ever and most by a sitting president. Not the crushing defeat that the mainstream press was hoping for and had led us to believe. America is in a pretty bad place right now, the division between sides is stark. Could make for an interesting few years.
    The Democrats can not complain however if Republicans make a fuss over the result as they have been doing it since the last election. They were very sore losers the last time.

    Super salty.


  • #2417
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    The whole forged signature is a problem when a stranger gets his hand on a 100 ballots and forges them with signatures of names he finds somewhere, people he knows, phonebook ect. They would hopefully never be counted as the signature would be wrong.


    In a home a person would have many many documents with signatures from people in the home, or can simply ask them to sign.
    Big difference, one is fraud, the others is '' oh well it's Covid Time, what can you do, it's acceptable this time round''

    A Sister asking her brother, Uncle Bob who lives in the basement for a signature while he is drunk watching tv is a genuine vote his time round.

    How come you keep ignoring the questions about why only Biden supporters would commit this fraud (and on a widespread enough scale to win an election of 150m voters)


  • #2418
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Trump2016_ wrote: »
    Very disappointed Trump has been defeated. I am an educated person, very tuned into politics, media etc and I support Trump.

    Do I agree with him on everything? No.
    For me, he is a symbol of the pushback against the prohibition of offence, political correctness and cancel culture.

    If I support immigration laws - I am racist.
    If I think there's a problem with Islam - I am racist.
    If I think the world is caving into ultra minority groups at the expense of me - I am a transphobe etc.

    We're not allowed to judge people anymore. We judge people all the time yet nowadays if you're open about it you're a bad person.

    We have to pussyfoot around minorities and change our way of living to suit them. An example is all the people putting "pronouns" on their twitter profiles. Really, I'm supposed to not assume someone is a man or woman anymore?

    And when people like me have these opinions, others don't understand. I'm a racist, I'm a fascist, I'm a transphobe etc. People talk about trump being awful and I just nod and agree. It was the same with Sinn Fein earlier this year. I voted SF for first time. People at work telling me it was madness they got so many votes. I sat there and agreed because people like me are not listened to. We're told what to be happy with.

    We were told Trump is terrible, how the world would collapse and yet he'll finish his presidency and things haven't fallen apart. Ireland hasn't had any change with multinationals. But I see the Irish media are desperate for Irish illegals to get documentation now that Joe is president. I don't know how anyone can support illegal immigration - Irish people included.

    In addition, people just don't trust mainstream news anymore. We don't trust governments to tell us the truth. They've been shown up too many times as lying to protect their interests. Obvious example is Covid. Every day we're told X died of Covid. Well, no, they had Covid but how many would have died anyways? They're old and frail and would die of flu if they got it.

    The last 4/5 years have been so enjoyable for the memes. When life is so **** and unfair for a millenial, they were a great source of laughter. Bigly, Covfefe etc.

    And lastly, I have to finish on the hypocrisy of the "left". People complaining how Trump spews hate and division yet Trump is flung with abuse over his weight, hair, skin colour, hands etc.

    I reallty hope the Trump movement, the hats etc. stay around because I think the world needs it.

    I'm sorry, but that came across as a lot of mass generalisations. A lot if what you said was almost directly a result of the media campaigns Trump ran and gloss over a lot real and severe issues that exist in our society.


  • #2419
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    kerry_man15 wrote: »
    All the celebrities now gloating and celebrating and complaining that Trump won't accept the result....hypocrites the lot of them. They've never accepted that Trump won in 2016 and having been whining and crying about it ever since and refusing to accept that he was "their president" even though he won the election fair and square.
    Gloating and rubbing the result in people's faces doesn't help to unify the country, it does the opposite, something they've accused Trump of doing all this time.
    I don't care for either side tbh but can't stand the holier than thou attitude of these celebrities. The US is as divided as ever no matter who the president is. This election has been far closer than anyone thought, the electorate has not rejected Trump or Trumpism, he has achieved more votes than the last time, in fact the second highest total ever and most by a sitting president. Not the crushing defeat that the mainstream press was hoping for and had led us to believe. America is in a pretty bad place right now, the division between sides is stark. Could make for an interesting few years.
    The Democrats can not complain however if Republicans make a fuss over the result as they have been doing it since the last election. They were very sore losers the last time.

    The sitting president isn't accepting the outcome. You're comparing apples and oranges. Hillary Clinton conceded on election night last time even though the margins in a number of States were tighter then in this election.


  • #2420
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Funkfield wrote: »
    Posted every few seconds/minutes from a new account.

    Is it a meme so? Or are they all bots?

    well its a meme now because i've just tweeted it on one of my alt twitter accounts.


  • #2421
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,435 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Are you kidding? The US or any western country doesn't use electronic voting machines anymore for reasons already explained.
    Huh? Are you serious or not?
    That's just not true.
    The US do use electronic voting machines....
    Maybe look at the facts before spouting more nonsense.


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  • #2422
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    kerry_man15 wrote: »
    All the celebrities now gloating and celebrating and complaining that Trump won't accept the result....hypocrites the lot of them. They've never accepted that Trump won in 2016 and having been whining and crying about it ever since and refusing to accept that he was "their president" even though he won the election fair and square.
    Gloating and rubbing the result in people's faces doesn't help to unify the country, it does the opposite, something they've accused Trump of doing all this time.
    I don't care for either side tbh but can't stand the holier than thou attitude of these celebrities. The US is as divided as ever no matter who the president is. This election has been far closer than anyone thought, the electorate has not rejected Trump or Trumpism, he has achieved more votes than the last time, in fact the second highest total ever and most by a sitting president. Not the crushing defeat that the mainstream press was hoping for and had led us to believe. America is in a pretty bad place right now, the division between sides is stark. Could make for an interesting few years.
    The Democrats can not complain however if Republicans make a fuss over the result as they have been doing it since the last election. They were very sore losers the last time.

    Without at least attempting to understand others, the division will continue.


  • #2423
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    feel free to educate yourself on the process.

    Yea I can't find anything that says anything in more detail. Got a link?


  • #2424
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Yes, look at what voting for all the smooth talkers has gotten us. Trillions in debt, God knows how many wars.

    Yes lets vote for more debt and more wars because Trump can be a dick. The "peace loving" Lefties really showed him.

    BTW. You vote for polices. Not personality. Try it here one time. Ireland might not be so ****ed.

    US national debt rose from $19.5 trillion in 2016 to $26.5 in mid 2020 (it was $22.7 trillion last year before you claim it was dropping before coronavirus).........


  • #2425
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Well at least we have the Hunter Biden and Ukraine and China corruption sh1tshow to look forward to. We'll look back on the Trump presidency as a golden era of dignity and financial probity in comparison.


  • #2426
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Are you kidding? The US or any western country doesn't use electronic voting machines anymore for reasons already explained.

    try to educate yourself. some states in the US still use electronic voting machines. some of them dont even produce a paper receipt of the vote.


  • #2427
    feargale
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    I actually feel like that downfall scene is the reality now, except obviously trump is nothing like hitler

    No, he didn't gas Jews and Roma, and he didn't quite succeed in destroying democracy though he has brought it to the brink. Not bad for a president who never read the US constitution.


  • #2428
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,435 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    sabat wrote: »
    Well at least we have the Hunter Biden and Ukraine and China corruption sh1tshow to look forward to. We'll look back on the Trump presidency as a golden era of dignity and financial probity in comparison.
    ....sure we will....Rudy
    Zero verified information off that alleged laptop..dropped off with a beau biden foundation sticker to the blind repair shop owner....zero evidence of any wrongdoing on part of Joe Biden...Hunter wasn't actually running, do you realize that?

    Two weeks...smoking gun...bla bla

    Trump has shown zero dignity in office.


  • #2429
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    kerry_man15 wrote: »
    All the celebrities now gloating and celebrating and complaining that Trump won't accept the result....hypocrites the lot of them. They've never accepted that Trump won in 2016 and having been whining and crying about it ever since and refusing to accept that he was "their president" even though he won the election fair and square.
    Gloating and rubbing the result in people's faces doesn't help to unify the country, it does the opposite, something they've accused Trump of doing all this time.
    I don't care for either side tbh but can't stand the holier than thou attitude of these celebrities. The US is as divided as ever no matter who the president is. This election has been far closer than anyone thought, the electorate has not rejected Trump or Trumpism, he has achieved more votes than the last time, in fact the second highest total ever and most by a sitting president. Not the crushing defeat that the mainstream press was hoping for and had led us to believe. America is in a pretty bad place right now, the division between sides is stark. Could make for an interesting few years.
    The Democrats can not complain however if Republicans make a fuss over the result as they have been doing it since the last election. They were very sore losers the last time.

    Don't think anyone was complaining about vote fraud in 2016, well except for Trump who couldn't accept that Clinton got more votes that him.

    Think everyone accepted the result of the count for the votes and the result of the EC, despite it being a stupid way to hold an election. People were complaining about Trumps actions before, during an after his presidency (his behaviour this week was easily predicted).

    Nobody queried the vote (except Trump), just why people ticked the box next to the name Trump on the ballot papers.


  • #2430
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Yea I can't find anything that says anything in more detail. Got a link?

    do your own research.


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  • #2431
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    paleoperson wrote: »
    So this post here says Trump is clueless for being out golfing when receiving news he lost the presidency:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115212833&postcount=1424

    It received 25 thanks.

    Yet now we know so was Biden! Biden was golfing when he found out he won the presidency.

    25 ridiculous NPCs just mindlessly thanking a post just because it talks about Trump golfing and frowns on it. It makes no ****ing sense.

    Yes, yes, let the hatred flow through you.


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