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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • #2162
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    So another millionaire gets elected to the highest office in America.

    It would be very odd if he wasn't:
    Majority of lawmakers in 116th Congress are millionaires

    By Karl Evers-Hillstrom
    April 23, 2020

    Trump is supposedly a billionaire, so Biden's a relative pauper.


  • #2163
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    True, but he didn't just claim it.

    Some of it was hollow like all politicians but he took a lot of hits and used up a lot of political capital for certain policies and pushbacks that meant something to many people. I know people on here thinks covid is all his fault, but just in isolation he took on being called xenophobic by all the democrats just for shutting down planes coming from the centre of the outbreak. On that one Biden had to backtrack, and on many policies Biden had to start integrating some of Trump's agenda which was attacked by the establishment

    He lost a hell of a lot of popularity with the military because the generals fundamentally disagreed with his isolationism (Mad Dog and others). Whereas it's actually the popular consensus to bring troops home and stay out of foreign wars, but that was deemed a negative for Trump by the media. I mean he could have just went with whatever Mattis said and saved himself any political loss there.

    I don't agree with that interpretation of events tbh

    He got some things right, but a broken clock is right twice a day.


    But my point is - I think it's beneficial to not get bogged down in Trump any more. He's gone. We could argue all day about good Vs bad of Trump. We might convince each other about some points, but generally, probably not.

    What IS important is what appealed about him. What was missing. Why do people feel he resonated (again ignoring the argument of whether or not he cared) and what can be done to improve the situation.

    Similarly, Trump definitely did destroy lots of parts of society. Trump fans have to try and understand that it's not acceptable to disown the media** etc they too represent the views of real people and u can't all be 'fake' just because the message is different.



    **There are major issues with journalism, but no where near what has been painted for Trumps gain.


  • #2164
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Melania might go though. her and Obama are besties.

    So Obama is diddling Melania and W Bush is diddling Michelle Obama because they get on very well.

    If that trend continues...you have to feel sorry for Jill Biden.


  • #2165
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I don't want to think about what you typed in to youtube to find that


    It has a million views and rising, it's not that hard to find at all

    Trust Biden supporters on here and elsewhere to have complete blinkers on to him even touching kids though

    There was no winner today. Both of them are disgusting "men"


  • #2166
    [Deleted User]
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    I'm happy Biden got elected, even though the vote counting has a whiff of Zanu PF about it. I think he will be good for Ireland re brexit.


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  • #2167
    L1011
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    If someone had been earning what a Senator and then VP earns for that length of time and *wasn't* an asset millionaire, I wouldn't want them to them run a charity shop let alone a country.


  • #2168
    terryduff12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭terryduff12


    Its gonna be a quiet at The Inauguration of the President with covid and since alot mailed in their vote. Good to see it will be kept sensible so the spread of the virus will not increase.


  • #2169
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,753 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I’ve only been watching cnn , so it may be a network bias, but I never thought I’d see news anchors openly calling a potus a liar and other names and generally sticking the knife in at any chance.


  • #2170
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    osarusan wrote: »
    Usually there is that speech where the winner says they received a very dignified call from their opponent, and where the loser says they called the winner to congratulate them. McCain's speech was really memorable in that respect, his true dignity in defeat and how he immediately quelled any booing efforts.

    Guess that won't be happening this time.

    I wonder will Trump be at the inauguration. Last time, he was able to say a few words about how helpful the Obamas had been during the transition. I'm sure Joe Biden is able to offer the same empty niceties, but will Trump be there to hear them.

    i thought trump would concede and make the call to biden. Bit more skeptical now as i think he will fight this to the bitter end.

    whether or not trump turns up i dont think matters as much this time round to the transition. biden was VP only 4 years ago, and aside from Covid most of the same issues remain such as the ideological divide between red and left. i'm not sure about the various foreign policies.


  • #2171
    sheeplover55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭sheeplover55


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I don't want to think about what you typed in to youtube to find that

    Not hard tbh, "Creepy joe". ;)


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  • #2172
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    One of the two most powerful countries in the world trades one scumbag for another, and yet people celebrate it's 3 St Patrick's Days

    The leader of America everyone



    The only good thing to emerge from this mountain of shíte is that Biden has to be surely better for all things Covid related

    I can show you similar images for Trump, only it's his own daughter, Ivanka, the one he's on record as wanting to....


  • #2173
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,149 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1325169074981142529


  • #2174
    eagle eye
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    It's all over folks. We have a new President of the USA.


  • #2175
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    cj maxx wrote: »
    I’ve only been watching cnn , so it may be a network bias, but I never thought I’d see news anchors openly calling a potus a liar and other names and generally sticking the knife in at any chance.

    they're not wrong though


  • #2176
    GeorgeBailey
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's all over folks. We have a new President of the USA.

    source?


  • #2177
    owlbethere
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    Leo looked disgusted sitting near Trump earlier this year on his St Patricks day visit to the White House.


  • #2178
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    GeorgeBailey wrote: »
    source?

    :pac:


  • #2179
    Quin_Dub
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    CFlat wrote: »
    I've been dropping in and out of Fox today cause it's the only American news network I can access and since Biden was called as President elect they have been far from critical of Biden and even wished him and Kamala wishes and have made plenty of negative comments as to how Trump ran his campaign. I always thought they were a mad pro republican station but not getting that vibe off them.

    In truth, if you exclude the "Celebrity" presenters , Fox is a fairly generic, albeit right leaning News channel.

    it's Hannity, Carlson,Pirro, Ingraham and Bartiromo etc. are the source of all the utter crap.


  • #2180
    briany
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    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    The best comparison would be Gore. If they truly are compiling data and presenting to the courts on Monday (I'm not naive I know it is likely frivolous) then he has no obligation to do so. It's Trump so it'll never be gracious, but people are assuming he won't leave office but I'm certain once he exhausts the courts he will step down but continue tweeting about it forever more.

    I have serious concerns that he won't admit to having lost the election and if he doesn't do that then the logical follow-on is to proclaim himself President-in-Exile with his office not in the White House but at the top floor of Trump Tower. And then if the DoJ comes after him on the various charges he's facing, he can say it's an attempt by the deep state to round up its political enemies starting with the top man himself. If his supporters subscribe to the current paper-thin conspiracy about mail-in voter fraud then they'll certainly subscribe to the scenario I've laid out.

    I would say the incoming administration could try to ignore this craziness and moronity but there are too many of them.


  • #2181
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    cnocbui wrote: »
    I can show you similar images for Trump, only it's his own daughter, Ivanka, the one he's on record as wanting to....


    That's why I said both of them were horrible choices. And yet Biden is getting championed like he's Mr Clean



    Biden fans are like this ...



    tenor.gif


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  • #2182
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    So another millionaire gets elected to the highest office in America.

    This one is self made though.


  • #2183
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    I have to admire Trump for playing golf today. I made a **** up in work a few weeks ago and my Sunday game was destroyed because of it. To go and play today with all this **** going on shows balls of steel/neck like a jockey’s bollox.


  • #2184
    numbnutz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭numbnutz


    cj maxx wrote: »
    I’ve only been watching cnn , so it may be a network bias, but I never thought I’d see news anchors openly calling a potus a liar and other names and generally sticking the knife in at any chance.
    Hardly surprising as he has treated journalists like absolute filth. I'm actually looking forward to when Trump actually grows a pair and tries to face them down again he will be savaged.
    Regarding the scenes of Bidens win its like the end of Star Wars when the Death Star was blown up....amazing scenes of spontaneous joy.
    Kayleigh McEnanys tweet on the crowds gathering is just pure joy.


  • #2185
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    I have to admire Trump for playing golf today. I made a **** up in work a few weeks ago and my Sunday game was destroyed because of it. To go and play today with all this **** going on shows balls of steel/neck like a jockey’s bollox.

    easy to play well when you award yourself unlimited mulligans.


  • #2186
    Dressoutlet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


    Can people stop throwing the word Peadophile around like its nothing. It is insulting to victims to see it used willy nilly.
    Peadophiles are not stupid enough to do anything while there's cameras on them.
    Take it from me, it's the ones that are funny and laughing and joking and everyone loves because they're so funny,they say more and more risqué things but everyone let's it slide because sure he's only messing, he's a WUM.
    Peadophiles groom everyone around them so nobody suspects them.


  • #2187
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,555 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    That's why I said both of them were horrible choices. And yet Biden is getting championed like he's Mr Clean



    Biden fans are like this ...



    tenor.gif

    Both are horrible choices..

    But Trump is an awful lot more horrible!


  • #2188
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    numbnutz wrote: »
    Hardly surprising as he has treated journalists like absolute filth. I'm actually looking forward to when Trump actually grows a pair and tries to face them down again he will be savaged.
    Regarding the scenes of Bidens win its like the end of Star Wars when the Death Star was blown up....amazing scenes of spontaneous joy.
    Kayleigh McEnanys tweet on the crowds gathering is just pure joy.

    what did she say? I know i could look at her twitter account but then i would see the rest of the scutter she posts and who needs that right now.


  • #2189
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    normakelle wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/p25v2q_b8bQ
    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Vote fraud evidence, hopefully it will be investigated

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p25v2q_b8bQ&feature=youtu.be
    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Now it's time to address the vote fraud, for which there seems to be plenty of evidence

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p25v2q_b8bQ&feature=youtu.be


    Stop spamming this video, it has been posted mulltiple times as shown above. The point has been made

    Moderator: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender, Vegan & Vegetarian

    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



  • #2190
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,433 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    I have to admire Trump for playing golf today. I made a **** up in work a few weeks ago and my Sunday game was destroyed because of it. To go and play today with all this **** going on shows balls of steel/neck like a jockey’s bollox.

    I'll bet he didn't shoot a "76" this time!


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  • #2191
    uncleoswald
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    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    That's why I said both of them were horrible choices. And yet Biden is getting championed like he's Mr Clean



    Biden fans are like this ...



    tenor.gif
    Christ, he's an at times awkward old man. To accuse him of whatever you are accusing him of on the basis of a couple of awkward interactions in public, and no actual allegations, make you the sicko in my eyes.


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