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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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    #5132
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    And here's me thinking "we had an election, a winner seems to have come from it, and the country continues to tick along". Maybe I'm getting blasee after decades of sequential incidents of "the most important/significant/critical election in American history".

    That he was elected as senator in 1972 is half-damning. Credit to his service and appeal, but that's five decades of not relating to the non-poilitical class?

    Interesting vote-getting technique at a local purveyor of fine firearms. Wear your "i voted" sticker, get $100 off an AR, $30 off a pistol, 10% off a bolt action or $50 off an AK. I'll bear that in mind in a couple of years. Shame no discount on shotguns.

    Anyway, I guess the next important event is January and those run-offs for the senate.


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    #5133
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Here come the congratulatory calls!!!!!!!

    Trump will feel like a teenager with someone walking off with his prom date lol

    "Wait wait! You can't do that!!!"

    https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1325121342568505346?s=19

    I'm looking forward to the ones from Putin and Merkel... For entirely different reasons...


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    #5134
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Had a parcel to collect maybe? Thought he might as well kill two birds with one stone.

    Final parcel of goodies from Moscow, maybe?


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    #5135
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,689 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    And here's me thinking "we had an election, a winner seems to have come from it, and the country continues to tick along". Maybe I'm getting blasee after decades of sequential incidents of "the most important/significant/critical election in American history".

    That he was elected as senator in 1972 is half-damning. Credit to his service and appeal, but that's five decades of not relating to the non-poilitical class?

    Interesting vote-getting technique at a local purveyor of fine firearms. Wear your "i voted" sticker, get $100 off an AR, $30 off a pistol, 10% off a bolt action or $50 off an AK. I'll bear that in mind in a couple of years. Shame no discount on shotguns.

    Anyway, I guess the next important event is January and those run-offs for the senate.

    This reads as bitter ?

    Maybe I'm taking it up wrong but definitely appears bitter ?

    I recall a president slating the armed forces, slating their dead, slating the deads families and calling anyone caught a loser. Sure would be the guy that I'd defend if i was a member. He sounds tip top class...


    Oh and taking zero action or saying anything about an enemy putting bounties on my men.


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    #5136
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,056 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    correct horse battery staple wrote: »
    Which reminds me has Trump published any policies yet? Beside 4 more years.

    It's incredible that we had a presidential candidate run without any policy documents in sight, we have become so desensitised by his crazy carry on


    Ya he also had "lock her up"


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    #5137
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Brian? wrote: »
    They aren’t, he set his stall out early.

    Time will tell.


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    #5138
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Time will tell.

    Time has told. Biden made zero promises about the green new deal or defunding the police or Medicare for all. They weren’t his policies and he’s now POTUS.

    People voted for Joe Biden and his policies, he’s beholden to no one. You can’t say “time will tell” in an attempt to appear clever, there’s no evidence for your speculation.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    #5139
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    My last evening in John King’s company. I’m feeling nostalgic already. See you in 2022 John.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    #5140
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    And here's me thinking "we had an election, a winner seems to have come from it, and the country continues to tick along". Maybe I'm getting blasee after decades of sequential incidents of "the most important/significant/critical election in American history".

    That he was elected as senator in 1972 is half-damning. Credit to his service and appeal, but that's five decades of not relating to the non-poilitical class?

    Interesting vote-getting technique at a local purveyor of fine firearms. Wear your "i voted" sticker, get $100 off an AR, $30 off a pistol, 10% off a bolt action or $50 off an AK. I'll bear that in mind in a couple of years. Shame no discount on shotguns.

    Anyway, I guess the next important event is January and those run-offs for the senate.

    Is this type of activity legal?

    If Starbucks gave hipsters free coffee for voting Fox News would melt down.


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    #5141
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,056 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Brian? wrote: »
    Time has told. Biden made zero promises about the green new deal or defunding the police or Medicare for all. They weren’t his policies and he’s now POTUS.

    People voted for Joe Biden and his policies, he’s beholden to no one. You can’t say “time will tell” in an attempt to appear clever, there’s no evidence for your speculation.


    " no evidence for your speculation" is a term that Trump fans need to get used to.
    I love how the attacks are starting and acting like we were all screaming about Biden as a messiah despite the fact most of us here are pretty lukewarm on Biden and happy to admit it but just see him as better than Trump. The people on here supporting Biden are not the indoctrinated loons that the Trump fans are


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    #5142
    Shelga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Shelga


    I can't help but wish Biden was even 10 years younger. The stress of this campaign must have been enormous. I hope he's looking after himself! And that he takes a few days off between now and January.


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    #5143
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Brian? wrote: »
    Time has told. Biden made zero promises about the green new deal or defunding the police or Medicare for all. They weren’t his policies and he’s now POTUS.

    People voted for Joe Biden and his policies, he’s beholden to no one. You can’t say “time will tell” in an attempt to appear clever, there’s no evidence for your speculation.

    I'm talking about the radical fringes.


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    #5144
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/what-will-biden-s-plan-to-bring-investment-back-to-us-mean-for-ireland-1.4401099?mode=amp


    Worth remembering that Biden campaigned on bringing home overseas giants who manufacture abroad and then sell to Us markets. Trump of course had the same policy but wasn't successful.

    Will be interesting to see how committed he is to potentially upsetting Ireland's golden goose.


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    #5145
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    I'm talking about the radical fringes.

    Well, you see, the radical fringes are never happy, that's why they are on the fringe and considered radical.

    trump gave it a good go don't get me wrong but even he wasn't radical enough for his own radical fringes. It's not big news \0/

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #5146
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    I mean, this is just science... it's fairly firmly established that it does makea huge difference. Especially in addition to being outside.

    I’m not disputing that wearing masks is no better then not wearing masks. I was on the COVID thread at the start of February following it extensively, so I understand more then most the importance of masks and measures to reduce the spread.

    Any sort of mass crowd gatherings in a country whose numbers are up there with the worst in the world, is bad for the virus spread whether you are wearing a mask or not.


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    #5147
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    I'm talking about the radical fringes.

    I know you are. They only have influence in your head.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    #5148
    Shelga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Giuliani ranting and raving on Sky News. He sounds completely deranged. Why are they even airing this complete drivel. It's an insult to their viewers and I hope that Trump's loss motivates the media to be far more fact-driven and cut off people who tell complete lies to gullible idiots.


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    #5149
    Jack1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    It's fantastic to see this man's presidency ripped from him. He has treated the populous of the US as a whole with distain and viewed the presidency as something for HIM.

    It's over, it's done - Legacy? Single handedly presided over the worst volume in deaths in the United States since WWII on its home turf and actively engaged in conspiracy’s that killed many more American's than ever should have. He actively exploited racial divide to heat up a base and partook in it.

    The man is disgusting he has never held credibility, a liar and racist to his core.

    The challenge for Biden is immense, Health and COVID containment, the economy and ultimately a divide Trump promoted and the GOP cheerleaded. I pray, in the Senate run-off's Dem's take control, they have the House and the Presidency.

    This brought a serious smile to my face.

    https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1325146638835306502?s=20


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    #5150
    Brian?
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/what-will-biden-s-plan-to-bring-investment-back-to-us-mean-for-ireland-1.4401099?mode=amp


    Worth remembering that Biden campaigned on bringing home overseas giants who manufacture abroad and then sell to Us markets. Trump of course had the same policy but wasn't successful.

    Will be interesting to see how committed he is to potentially upsetting Ireland's golden goose.

    What jobs do you think will leave Ireland to go to the US?

    I know the answer

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    #5151
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Brian? wrote: »
    What jobs do you think will leave Ireland to go to the US?

    I know the answer

    These are Bidens campaign policies and promises. If you are already writing him off that's your opinion

    Like I said it will be interesting to see how committed he is to these particular issues


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    #5152
    TheCitizen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,230 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    murphyebass wrote: »
    Biden fans clutching to the idea that he might still win this.

    Cmon people it’s over. Trump has done it again and you know it.
    12gauge dave wrote: »
    This election is over he has done it again.

    Some great posts earlier in this thread on the night of the count :pac:

    Brilliant result. What a relief to be rid of that lying arsehole Trump. A bit of good news at last for 2020.


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    #5153
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    These are Bidens campaign policies and promises. If you are already writing him off that's your opinion

    Like I said it will be interesting to see how committed he is to these particular issues

    He'll probably have enough on his hands in other areas tbh. A one term president who has to deal with a pandemic and a tanking economy will do well enough to try and climb out of the hole the incumbent will be leaving for him, and then to have to battle that archaic Mitch in the senate. Only so much one can do I'm afraid, I would doubt he will get through every one of his policy aspirations, do you know a president who has? Sure we might get lucky and he might be out of office before he manages to get down the list to taking all of the jobs back by some magic.

    Hell, maybe he just lied to his voters to get himself what he wanted - could make him more appealing to trump fans who need a new politician to latch on to?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #5154
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    These are Bidens campaign policies and promises. If you are already writing him off that's your opinion

    Like I said it will be interesting to see how committed he is to these particular issues

    What jobs do you think will leave Ireland? You were the one who brought it up.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    #5155
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    StringerBell wrote: »
    He'll probably have enough on his hands in other areas tbh. A one term president who has to deal with a pandemic and a tanking economy will do well enough to try and climb out of the hole the incumbent will be leaving for him, and then to have to battle that archaic Mitch in the senate. Only so much one can do I'm afraid, I would doubt he will get through every one of his policy aspirations, do you know a president who has? Sure we might get lucky and he might be out of office before he manages to get down the list to taking all of the jobs back by some magic.

    Very true. He has an unenviable task ahead of him. And one term of course. There would be bi partisan support for attempting to lure the companies home though and at a time of a tanking economy like you mentioned it could potentially mean high paying jobs and much needed injection of corporation taxes.

    If he could pull it off it would benefit both Republican and Democrat voters, cities and states and the economy.

    But there might not be time and there are other more pressing issues for sure


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    #5156
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Brian? wrote: »
    What jobs do you think will leave Ireland? You were the one who brought it up.

    Iv no interest in speculating which jobs. That's not the foundation of my post.

    These are the campaign policies of the new president of the United states. I'm just trying to discuss them. They are part of his plans.


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    #5157
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Very true. He has an unenviable task ahead of him. And one term of course. There would be bi partisan support for attempting to lure the companies home though and at a time of a tanking economy like you mentioned it could potentially mean high paying jobs and much needed injection of corporation taxes.

    If he could pull it off it would benefit both Republican and Democrat voters, cities and states and the economy.

    But there might not be time and there are other more pressing issues for sure

    No there wouldn't.
    Firstly because the GOP are about free markets and profit.
    Secondly because the GOP have no interest is supporting anything the other party want to do.


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    #5158
    Shelga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Also does anyone else find it really odd and worrying that it's 22 degrees in NYC, Phildelphia, DC etc- in November.

    Get back in Paris Agreement ASAP.


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    #5159
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Far left want to defund the police! That statement makes zero sense.

    Every communist nation last 100 years have all been police states...


    Five Eighth wrote: »
    Biden is seen as a traditional Democrat and i'm happy he won the Presidency. He is the right man to connect with the American white working class. However, the Democratic party are slowly moving away from their roots. Maybe it's a reflection of changing US demographics but this group of people do not deserve to be labelled out of touch traditionalists.

    Democrats are not. This is lies that Republicans and right wing media (and many msn are getting behind) would have you believe. Its been going on 40 years now and they have managed to convince some folk for sure.

    Republicans might continually say 'Democrats no longer care about working class but we do' but you only have to look at both parties voting records to see only one care about the ordinary working folk https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/2pwhvt/the_differences_between_the_democratic_party_and/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body


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    #5160
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No there wouldn't.
    Firstly because the GOP are about free markets and profit.
    Secondly because the GOP have no interest is supporting anything the other party want to do.

    Iv fact checked my own comment that you highlighted. There doesn't seem to be unified GOP support to bring home the multinational. It appears it was a Trump policy and also a Biden policy.

    Biden will offer a tax credit to companies who "come home"

    https://www.ft.com/content/3b44ca93-e17e-4134-b96d-f44b93e1acaa


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    #5161
    greenfield21
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    I thought biden was going to up tax rate and i doubt dems will go after two of his biggest donors pharma and tech. It wouldn't help stocks so politicians won't be in favour of it.


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